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Post by kustokie on Jul 12, 2017 22:54:35 GMT
If Zouma signs on loan for the season........ Hughes offers Porto €6m or we wait for next season when Bruno is then available on a free. Bruno advises that he warns to join Stoke and is happy to wait for the end of his contract before joining Stoke on a free. Porto then have a decision to make. Similar situation to where we were in Begovic and Nzonzi a while ago. Hmmmm!!! 🤔 The only problem with waiting til next season (when he's free) is that if Porto call our bluff, we then run the risk of being in a queue for his signature!!! It's more than risk, it's guaranteed we'll be in a queue and nowhere near the front. It's now or never. And if he does sign a three or four year deal, there's no guarantee other teams won't come after him 12 months from now if he has a good season. "The times, they are a-changing". |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2017 22:54:52 GMT
It shouldn't be moot though. It's a pretty big deal (in more ways than one). They shouldn't be allowed to get away with these things with a sweep under the carpet job. Yes and I've agreed with you, it's shocking that the Club don't see to grasp the basics of a legal option, however, we need to ensure that we sign Bruno. If he costs 13 mil, they just pay it and let the option recriminations play out seperately (and you open a separate thread  So yes, as to where we find ourselves today in relation to signing Bruno the option/non option is moot This is the BMI thread, why should it not be in here? And it really isn't, it's the reason why we're here. We shouldn't be here. He should be in Switzerland on the back of playing his second friendly for us. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 12, 2017 22:55:04 GMT
So are you saying because there was a previous fuck up we shouldn't sign him now? That's stupid. No. Where I have said that? I just think they should be chastised and it not swept under the carpet. I haven't actually mentioned signing him at all. So feck knows where that's coming from? So what do you want? Us to go public that we've maybe fucked a deal up, and look even more stupid if it's happened? Not going to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 22:55:40 GMT
If Zouma signs on loan for the season........ Hughes offers Porto €6m or we wait for next season when Bruno is then available on a free. Bruno advises that he warns to join Stoke and is happy to wait for the end of his contract before joining Stoke on a free. Porto then have a decision to make. Similar situation to where we were in Begovic and Nzonzi a while ago. Hmmmm!!! 🤔 The only problem with waiting til next season (when he's free) is that if Porto call our bluff, we then run the risk of being in a queue for his signature!!! Collecting autographs is a shite hobby anyway. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2017 22:59:11 GMT
No. Where I have said that? I just think they should be chastised and it not swept under the carpet. I haven't actually mentioned signing him at all. So feck knows where that's coming from? So what do you want? Us to go public that we've maybe fucked a deal up, and look even more stupid if it's happened? Not going to happen. No. I want a new transfer team. Again it isn't going to happen but why people just accept it I will never know. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 12, 2017 23:05:41 GMT
Yes and I've agreed with you, it's shocking that the Club don't see to grasp the basics of a legal option, however, we need to ensure that we sign Bruno. If he costs 13 mil, they just pay it and let the option recriminations play out seperately (and you open a separate thread So yes, as to where we find ourselves today in relation to signing Bruno the option/non option is moot This is the BMI thread, why should it not be in here? And it really isn't, it's the reason why we're here. We shouldn't be here. He should be in Switzerland on the back of playing his second friendly for us. You're right and you're wrong. Yes the option fuck up has lead us to where we are now. From heretofore the option/no option debacle has no relevance as to whether we sign Bruno or not, therefore it's moot! You've the option to start an option thread |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2017 23:08:39 GMT
This is the BMI thread, why should it not be in here? And it really isn't, it's the reason why we're here. We shouldn't be here. He should be in Switzerland on the back of playing his second friendly for us. You're right and you're wrong. Yes the option fuck up has lead us to where we are now. From heretofore the option/no option debacle has no relevance as to whether we sign Bruno or not, therefore it's moot! You've the option to start an option thread Why when there's a perfectly good Bruno Martins Indi one where it's already being discussed? |
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Post by baystokie on Jul 12, 2017 23:30:54 GMT
'All' reports may not be 'all' believable. I notice that very few, if any, have stated the actual wording of the clause which COULD suggest that very few, if any, of the reporters have actually seen an actual copy of the deal papers which, in turn, COULD suggest that all the reports are second/third hand. Just a thought in the midst of the blood-letting  There are numerous accounts directly from the manager and the club claiming that such a clause existed. All the Portuguese press reported that we had allowed the clause to elapse and then Peter Smith who is staying in the same hotel as the club in Switzerland and is seemingly interviewing Hughes daily, reported exactly the same yesterday. That's what I was referring to, nothing more. Fair enough but what I was referring to (and nothing more!) was that, not doubting that A clause existed, nobody seems to have the faintest idea of the wording of that clause, what caveats if any were in it, what financial figures/conditions/constraints if any were in it and what the terms were under which the clause would elapse. Yes, a clause existed but the devil was in the detail - which nobody seems to know. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2017 23:38:16 GMT
There are numerous accounts directly from the manager and the club claiming that such a clause existed. All the Portuguese press reported that we had allowed the clause to elapse and then Peter Smith who is staying in the same hotel as the club in Switzerland and is seemingly interviewing Hughes daily, reported exactly the same yesterday. That's what I was referring to, nothing more. Fair enough but what I was referring to (and nothing more!) was that, not doubting that A clause existed, nobody seems to have the faintest idea of the wording of that clause, what caveats if any were in it, what financial figures/conditions/constraints if any were in it and what the terms were under which the clause would elapse. Yes, a clause existed but the devil was in the detail - which nobody seems to know. I didn't claim in my original post anything to the contrary to what you have just suggested there. |
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Post by agingerstokie on Jul 12, 2017 23:47:39 GMT
If I hear this has fucked up tomorrow this will be me...  |
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 12, 2017 23:49:32 GMT
If I hear this has fucked up tomorrow this will be me...  What if you fucked up that image tomorrow too?  |
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Post by cozmick on Jul 13, 2017 5:42:37 GMT
Fucking sign already. Christ.
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Post by bolders on Jul 13, 2017 6:02:48 GMT
Fucking sign already. Christ. We're not signing Christ are we? He is fucking shit at crosses |
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2017 6:11:30 GMT
So are you saying because there was a previous fuck up we shouldn't sign him now? That's stupid. No. Where I have said that? I just think they should be chastised and it not swept under the carpet. I haven't actually mentioned signing him at all. So feck knows where that's coming from? That's how I was reading your posts. What's the point of Chastising? What does that acheive? Buy the player,it's a good deal |
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Jul 13, 2017 6:22:23 GMT
So what do you want? Us to go public that we've maybe fucked a deal up, and look even more stupid if it's happened? Not going to happen. No. I want a new transfer team. Again it isn't going to happen but why people just accept it I will never know. How can we not accept it? We don't run or own the club. It looks like there has been a massive cock up over the option to buy. If there has it will have been dealt with by the owners in private, just as it should be. The fact that there has not been a public hanging is their choice. For god's sake let it go. |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 13, 2017 6:29:22 GMT
Fucking sign already. Christ. We're not signing Christ are we? He is fucking shit at crosses Nailed on! |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 13, 2017 7:34:37 GMT
Portuguese paper saying something may be imminent - but who the hell knows anymore? www.noticiasaominuto.com/desporto/830601/martins-indi-quase-certo-no-stoke-cityMartins Indi almost certain at Stoke City
Dutch central about to return to the Premier League club.
Podera be for hours on official yet another sale on Dragon. Bruno Martins Indi should return to Stoke City, but this time definitively, in a deal that will take several million to the coffers of FC Porto.
As advances the Record newspaper, in the issue of Thursday, the Dutch central remains integrated in the squad of blue and white, but negotiations between FC Porto and Stoke City will already be well advanced.
After Martins Indi have been in the Premier League club last season on loan, the potters want your return in order to strengthen the rearmost row of the land.
What causes some strangeness in the case is the fact that Stoke City have not triggered the Martins Indi purchase clause at the end of the loan, previously valued at 10 million euros, and now come up with 14 million.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 13, 2017 7:41:24 GMT
Dragon.
Coffers.
Rearmost.
And that the most telling thing is the last paragraph.
Someone at the club needs to explain what they were thinking.
Yes I know it's not our money xyz, would still have preferred not to spend an extra £3m.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 13, 2017 7:42:01 GMT
Portuguese paper saying something may be imminent - but who the hell knows anymore? www.noticiasaominuto.com/desporto/830601/martins-indi-quase-certo-no-stoke-cityMartins Indi almost certain at Stoke City
Dutch central about to return to the Premier League club.
Podera be for hours on official yet another sale on Dragon. Bruno Martins Indi should return to Stoke City, but this time definitively, in a deal that will take several million to the coffers of FC Porto.
As advances the Record newspaper, in the issue of Thursday, the Dutch central remains integrated in the squad of blue and white, but negotiations between FC Porto and Stoke City will already be well advanced.
After Martins Indi have been in the Premier League club last season on loan, the potters want your return in order to strengthen the rearmost row of the land.
What causes some strangeness in the case is the fact that Stoke City have not triggered the Martins Indi purchase clause at the end of the loan, previously valued at 10 million euros, and now come up with 14 million.
There's something so beautiful, so Shakespearean about that. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 13, 2017 7:43:28 GMT
Dragon. Coffers. Rearmost. And that the most telling thing is the last paragraph. Someone at the club needs to explain what they were thinking. Yes I know it's not our money xyz, would still have preferred not to spend an extra £3m. They don't NEED to explain shit to us. Why would they? |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 13, 2017 7:44:41 GMT
Portuguese paper saying something may be imminent - but who the hell knows anymore? www.noticiasaominuto.com/desporto/830601/martins-indi-quase-certo-no-stoke-cityMartins Indi almost certain at Stoke City
Dutch central about to return to the Premier League club.
Podera be for hours on official yet another sale on Dragon. Bruno Martins Indi should return to Stoke City, but this time definitively, in a deal that will take several million to the coffers of FC Porto.
As advances the Record newspaper, in the issue of Thursday, the Dutch central remains integrated in the squad of blue and white, but negotiations between FC Porto and Stoke City will already be well advanced.
After Martins Indi have been in the Premier League club last season on loan, the potters want your return in order to strengthen the rearmost row of the land.
What causes some strangeness in the case is the fact that Stoke City have not triggered the Martins Indi purchase clause at the end of the loan, previously valued at 10 million euros, and now come up with 14 million.
There's something so beautiful, so Shakespearean about that. There may be something in there of interest to Waggy! |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 13, 2017 7:47:00 GMT
Dragon. Coffers. Rearmost. And that the most telling thing is the last paragraph. Someone at the club needs to explain what they were thinking. Yes I know it's not our money xyz, would still have preferred not to spend an extra £3m. They don't NEED to explain shit to us. Why would they? I'd disagree. Fans are stakeholders in the business and to explain material business decisions should be standard practice. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 13, 2017 7:55:14 GMT
They don't NEED to explain shit to us. Why would they? I'd disagree. Fans are stakeholders in the business and to explain material business decisions should be standard practice. Should be? Is it though? The only person they NEED to explain it to is the company owner/director and I'm sure they're very well versed to the reason that we're spending (that's if we actually are) an extra £3million. Why waste your summer worrying about a relative pittance, go out and enjoy the sun. |
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 13, 2017 7:58:53 GMT
Portuguese paper saying something may be imminent - but who the hell knows anymore? www.noticiasaominuto.com/desporto/830601/martins-indi-quase-certo-no-stoke-cityMartins Indi almost certain at Stoke City
Dutch central about to return to the Premier League club.
Podera be for hours on official yet another sale on Dragon. Bruno Martins Indi should return to Stoke City, but this time definitively, in a deal that will take several million to the coffers of FC Porto.
As advances the Record newspaper, in the issue of Thursday, the Dutch central remains integrated in the squad of blue and white, but negotiations between FC Porto and Stoke City will already be well advanced.
After Martins Indi have been in the Premier League club last season on loan, the potters want your return in order to strengthen the rearmost row of the land.
What causes some strangeness in the case is the fact that Stoke City have not triggered the Martins Indi purchase clause at the end of the loan, previously valued at 10 million euros, and now come up with 14 million.
Well they're not wrong, we do need to strengthen the rearmost row of the land for sure |
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Post by thevoid on Jul 13, 2017 7:59:56 GMT
I'd disagree. Fans are stakeholders in the business and to explain material business decisions should be standard practice. Should be? Is it though? The only person they NEED to explain it to is the company owner/director and I'm sure they're very well versed to the reason that we're spending (that's if we actually are) an extra £3million. Why waste your summer worrying about a relative pittance, go out and enjoy the sun. One of the things I do in the sun is get my phone out and see if we've fucking spent any money yet. |
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Jul 13, 2017 8:38:19 GMT
Fucking sign already. Christ. We're not signing Christ are we? He is fucking shit at crosses HAHA Post of the week! |
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jul 13, 2017 8:41:15 GMT
Fucking sign already. Christ. We're not signing Christ are we? He is fucking shit at crosses I heard different... That he had a deadly cross |
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Jul 13, 2017 8:41:42 GMT
Maybe the clause was a sale of £10 million with a £5 million add on per season if he plays 30 games in a season?
£14 million ain't so crazy then, is it?
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Post by bolders on Jul 13, 2017 8:48:26 GMT
We're not signing Christ are we? He is fucking shit at crosses I heard different... That he had a deadly cross Yeah but they are up there for 6 hours. *Mark's Gospel* |
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Post by alster on Jul 13, 2017 8:50:16 GMT
We're not signing Christ are we? He is fucking shit at crosses I heard different... That he had a deadly cross Must be Eric Pieters he's got a beard and his crosses have nearly killed many a fan. |
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