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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:16:55 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket So what's your realistic aim for next season? Because if you're next-level, you must have aspirations to...what exactly??
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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 18, 2017 22:17:03 GMT
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 18, 2017 22:17:53 GMT
I try to back the Board and the behind the scenes transfer team BUT, in all honesty, in a market where Forest get £15m for a recently crocked ONLY Championship level proven player, if £20million IS the fee then people need to be removed from their post. They got £15m from fucking Middlesbrough!!!!
We can't get more than £20m for a proven Prem star on a 4 year contract???? Sorry, that is pathetic! Don't care how much he wants out, you let the fucker rot first before exposing and declaring yourself as such a fucking soft touch!
I hope the £20 million plus add-ons is bollocks...surely it has to be!?
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Post by entropy92 on Jul 18, 2017 22:20:06 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket Just get off the board you troll we arent bothered about West Ham. One day your club is going to get caught out because of your scheming underhand dildo brothers partnership and I bet u wont come on here then!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 18, 2017 22:20:08 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket Of course it's a sideways move. You, like us are just also rans in the Premier League; jostling for the odd point or league place but with no real chance of any success. That's the reality of the situation, we all know the real reason he's moved and it's not for footballing reasons.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 18, 2017 22:20:28 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket Your attack is irrelevant, your defence is about as stable as the Middle East.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:23:39 GMT
I try to back the Board and the behind the scenes transfer team BUT, in all honesty, in a market where Forest get £15m for a recently crocked ONLY Championship level proven player, if £20million IS the fee then people need to be removed from their post. They got £15m from fucking Middlesbrough!!!! We can't get more than £20m for a proven Prem star on a 4 year contract???? Sorry, that is pathetic! Don't care how much he wants out, you let the fucker rot first before exposing and declaring yourself as such a fucking soft touch! I hope the £20 million plus add-ons is bollocks...surely it has to be!? Fucking hell. He wanted to leave. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have to contemplate selling. Hence, we can quote £30m from a position of strength. No other club was interested in him. It looks like he first one that came knocking, turned his head. He couldn't wait to get out. He then backed us into a corner. Would you gave been happier holding out for £30m, letting WHU switch their attentions elsewhere, and leaving us with a player that didn't want to be here, and had burned his bridges? Some didn't like the lad before all this. He'd have got fucking crucified if we'd have been lumbered with him come the new season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2017 22:28:27 GMT
I try to back the Board and the behind the scenes transfer team BUT, in all honesty, in a market where Forest get £15m for a recently crocked ONLY Championship level proven player, if £20million IS the fee then people need to be removed from their post. They got £15m from fucking Middlesbrough!!!! We can't get more than £20m for a proven Prem star on a 4 year contract???? Sorry, that is pathetic! Don't care how much he wants out, you let the fucker rot first before exposing and declaring yourself as such a fucking soft touch! I hope the £20 million plus add-ons is bollocks...surely it has to be!? Fucking hell. He wanted to leave. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have to contemplate selling. Hence, we can quote £30m from a position of strength. No other club was interested in him. It looks like he first one that came knocking, turned his head. He couldn't wait to get out. He then backed us into a corner. Would you gave been happier holding out for £30m, letting WHU switch their attentions elsewhere, and leaving us with a player that didn't want to be here, and had burned his bridges? Some didn't like the lad before all this. He'd have got fucking crucified if we'd have been lumbered with him come the new season. So we've settled even though there's still loads of time in the window left. He has 3 years left on his Stoke contract, that's a position of strength. We've buckled at the first none piss take bid. Cracking work.
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 18, 2017 22:31:33 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket Your attack is irrelevant, your defence is about as stable as the Middle East. Hmm ok then. Hart, Zabaleta, Reid, Ogbonna and Cresswell - all internationals and all quality plus Adrian, Byram, Fonte, Collins, Masuaku as back up I'd fancy that as a stable defence tbh....
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 18, 2017 22:36:10 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket Of course it's a sideways move. You, like us are just also rans in the Premier League; jostling for the odd point or league place but with no real chance of any success. That's the reality of the situation, we all know the real reason he's moved and it's not for footballing reasons. You're describing Stoke and W Brom but we have bigger aspirations. Won't happen immediately but we can be top 6 contenders in time if we keep investing and improving. We may need new owners to make the final push however
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Post by badger on Jul 18, 2017 22:36:38 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket You've already been proven a wind up merchant youth. Bait rating - 2/10, must do better.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2017 22:37:11 GMT
Of course it's a sideways move. You, like us are just also rans in the Premier League; jostling for the odd point or league place but with no real chance of any success. That's the reality of the situation, we all know the real reason he's moved and it's not for footballing reasons. You're describing Stoke and W Brom but we have bigger aspirations. Won't happen immediately but we can be top 6 contenders in time if we keep investing and improving. We may need new owners to make the final push however 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:38:43 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket You got the piss taken out of you on your own board for coming on here and coming across as a bit of a twat, probably best to give it a rest.
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Post by jamerg on Jul 18, 2017 22:38:59 GMT
Had a browse around the national newspaper sites for a dose of outside perspective. The overwhelming consensus of comments from non-Stoke fans is incredulity that Arnautovic could command such a fee, and that this is further sign of football having gone mad. A representative selection:
"Beats Walker as the most overpriced transfer this year, for me. Absurd amount of money for a player that has 3 good games a season, not mention he's a petulant arsehole" "Just when you thought Kyle Walker going for £50M was a rip off. It now looks a bargain." "24 million for a 28 year old with a poor goal / assist per game ratio seems like a bad deal to me. Bet Stoke can't believe there [sic] luck."
I think we have to recognise that, as Stoke fans, we tend to overestimate the value of our better players. I'm gutted he's leaving, but given his age, profile, the fact he handed in a transfer request and our inability to start an auction, the reported fee seems about right to me, even in the current climate.
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Post by woodin43 on Jul 18, 2017 22:39:07 GMT
He can fuck off. He's not that good.
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 18, 2017 22:39:22 GMT
I try to back the Board and the behind the scenes transfer team BUT, in all honesty, in a market where Forest get £15m for a recently crocked ONLY Championship level proven player, if £20million IS the fee then people need to be removed from their post. They got £15m from fucking Middlesbrough!!!! We can't get more than £20m for a proven Prem star on a 4 year contract???? Sorry, that is pathetic! Don't care how much he wants out, you let the fucker rot first before exposing and declaring yourself as such a fucking soft touch! I hope the £20 million plus add-ons is bollocks...surely it has to be!? Fucking hell. He wanted to leave. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have to contemplate selling. Hence, we can quote £30m from a position of strength. No other club was interested in him. It looks like he first one that came knocking, turned his head. He couldn't wait to get out. He then backed us into a corner. Would you gave been happier holding out for £30m, letting WHU switch their attentions elsewhere, and leaving us with a player that didn't want to be here, and had burned his bridges? Some didn't like the lad before all this. He'd have got fucking crucified if we'd have been lumbered with him come the new season. Listen. Assombalonga wanted out. Well known. He has just come back from a HUGE career threatening injury and yet a Championship club got £15m from a Championship club. West Ham are FAR BIGGER than Borough and have a free stadium to boot! We aren't exactly known for a team tricky to deal with as perhaps Levy is. When you measure that the same club paid £20.5 million for Ayew!?!? Before people started paying stupid amounts this season. I get what you're saying re his transfer request but ultimately he is worth much more money than a measly £20 million plus add ons
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:39:50 GMT
Fucking hell. He wanted to leave. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have to contemplate selling. Hence, we can quote £30m from a position of strength. No other club was interested in him. It looks like he first one that came knocking, turned his head. He couldn't wait to get out. He then backed us into a corner. Would you gave been happier holding out for £30m, letting WHU switch their attentions elsewhere, and leaving us with a player that didn't want to be here, and had burned his bridges? Some didn't like the lad before all this. He'd have got fucking crucified if we'd have been lumbered with him come the new season. So we've settled even though there's still loads of time in the window left. He has 3 years left on his Stoke contract, that's a position of strength. We've buckled at the first none piss take bid. Cracking work. How long do we wait before we fold? £20m - £24m is fair anyway, for a player that only really shone because of the plethora of wank alongside him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2017 22:40:38 GMT
Fucking hell. He wanted to leave. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have to contemplate selling. Hence, we can quote £30m from a position of strength. No other club was interested in him. It looks like he first one that came knocking, turned his head. He couldn't wait to get out. He then backed us into a corner. Would you gave been happier holding out for £30m, letting WHU switch their attentions elsewhere, and leaving us with a player that didn't want to be here, and had burned his bridges? Some didn't like the lad before all this. He'd have got fucking crucified if we'd have been lumbered with him come the new season. Listen. Assombalonga wanted out. Well known. He has just come back from a HUGE career threatening injury and yet a Championship club got £15m from a Championship club. West Ham are FAR BIGGER than Borough and have a free stadium to boot! We aren't exactly known for a team tricky to deal with as perhaps Levy is. When you measure that the same club paid £20.5 million for Ayew!?!? Before people started paying stupid amounts this season. I get what you're saying re his transfer request but ultimately he is worth much more money than a measly £20 million plus add ons It really is astounding that people seem ok with this.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 18, 2017 22:41:05 GMT
Your attack is irrelevant, your defence is about as stable as the Middle East. Hmm ok then. Hart, Zabaleta, Reid, Ogbonna and Cresswell - all internationals and all quality plus Adrian, Byram, Fonte, Collins, Masuaku as back up I'd fancy that as a stable defence tbh.... Hart in goal says everything! Ambitious? You can't even pay his wages. You will soon get frustrated at Arnie's moaning, holding his leg when he loses possession, and generally inconsistent. He only ever cuts inside, never beating a defender on the outside. His shots and crossing is more often than not wayward. And the icing on the cake will be the bright lights of London will have him going back to what he was before he came to us. And with that, good luck! Should be interesting viewing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2017 22:41:09 GMT
So we've settled even though there's still loads of time in the window left. He has 3 years left on his Stoke contract, that's a position of strength. We've buckled at the first none piss take bid. Cracking work. How long do we wait before we fold? £20m - £24m is fair anyway, for a player that only really shone because of the plethora of wank alongside him. That's bollocks at every level.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 18, 2017 22:41:53 GMT
Of course it's a sideways move. You, like us are just also rans in the Premier League; jostling for the odd point or league place but with no real chance of any success. That's the reality of the situation, we all know the real reason he's moved and it's not for footballing reasons. You're describing Stoke and W Brom but we have bigger aspirations. Won't happen immediately but we can be top 6 contenders in time if we keep investing and improving. We may need new owners to make the final push however And you can't have new owners for ten years can you or else the Dildo twins have to pay a huge amount to the council don't they? Arnie is nearly 29 and has the the square root of fuck all chance of winning anything while he's contracted to West Ham. That's the reality of it all, so while you may have credible ambitions, given Arnie isn't 18 he's not going to see them come to fruition during his playing career is he?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:43:06 GMT
How long do we wait before we fold? £20m - £24m is fair anyway, for a player that only really shone because of the plethora of wank alongside him. That's bollocks at every level. Not at all. A good game now and again. Not worth £20m, we've swam the channel.
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Post by spoton on Jul 18, 2017 22:43:46 GMT
Ben Gibson now for 20 mill
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 18, 2017 22:52:27 GMT
Your attack is irrelevant, your defence is about as stable as the Middle East. Hmm ok then. Hart, Zabaleta, Reid, Ogbonna and Cresswell - all internationals and all quality plus Adrian, Byram, Fonte, Collins, Masuaku as back up I'd fancy that as a stable defence tbh.... Only Cresswell and Antonio would be a clear shoe-in to our first 11. Antonio would replace Arnie for me, not Shaqiri. Others that are close but not worth a swap are: Zabaleta and Johnson (both slow and pretty poor now). Kouyate is 3's and 7's (could get in over Imbula defensively, but plenty rate Cameron there and he's more versatile). Not much between Lanzini and Bojan. Berahino and Hernandez are fantastic finishers so it's all down to form and delivery - not much between what they're paid to do. Very clearly moving for £ and London, not because you had a few players in the 1966 England side. Not bitter at all, by the way. I think Arnie leaving could help us be more productive in front of goal, and we've had his best years now.
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 18, 2017 22:56:59 GMT
Of course it's a sideways move. You, like us are just also rans in the Premier League; jostling for the odd point or league place but with no real chance of any success. That's the reality of the situation, we all know the real reason he's moved and it's not for footballing reasons. You're describing Stoke and W Brom but we have bigger aspirations. Won't happen immediately but we can be top 6 contenders in time if we keep investing and improving. We may need new owners to make the final push however :S If Stoke (and anyone for that matter) keep investing and improving then we'll contend up the table...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 23:00:00 GMT
Of course it's a sideways move. You, like us are just also rans in the Premier League; jostling for the odd point or league place but with no real chance of any success. That's the reality of the situation, we all know the real reason he's moved and it's not for footballing reasons. You're describing Stoke and W Brom but we have bigger aspirations. Won't happen immediately but we can be top 6 contenders in time if we keep investing and improving. We may need new owners to make the final push however Bless. The Hammer with special needs thinks they're going to make the top 6 anytime soon.....
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Post by fredtheredandwhite on Jul 18, 2017 23:02:18 GMT
Our forward line come mid Aug will be Arny, Lanzini, Antonio and Hernandez - with Ayew and Carroll as back up as well as Andre Gray possibly Tell me again how he's making a sideways move to West Ham guys Have a good season ! Nothing against Stoke but Arny realises he's made a move to an ambitious club plus a few more bob in his pocket Our forward line now.Shobi , Bojan , Shaqiri and Berahino with diouf and crouch as back up ,as well as N'goy and possibly a few more signings.
You have a good season !
Nothing against West Ham but you are buying a lazy , petulant cry baby
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 18, 2017 23:02:33 GMT
You're describing Stoke and W Brom but we have bigger aspirations. Won't happen immediately but we can be top 6 contenders in time if we keep investing and improving. We may need new owners to make the final push however Bless. The Hammer with special needs thinks they're going to make the top 6 anytime soon..... They might have but Arnie will be a pundit in Austria by the time it happens!
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jul 18, 2017 23:29:16 GMT
Benedict Arnie?
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Post by Bombus on Jul 18, 2017 23:39:45 GMT
This is all very reminiscent of the time Cardiff came along and signed Kavanagh and Thorne. There was plenty of tub thumping back then and claims of how much more ambitious Cardiff were than Stoke. And we all know how that ended. The one thing you can't buy is class. Cardiff couldn't buy it in 2001 and West Ham can't buy it in 2017. +1 mate
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