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Post by metalhead on Jul 17, 2017 14:09:37 GMT
22mil not enough. No less than 25mil, if he has to go! As I've said already. 25 millions. Cheers. Bye.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 14:19:48 GMT
people complaining about 3 million less?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 17, 2017 14:21:55 GMT
Again, when has Marko Arnautovic stated that we lack ambition? Perhaps during last season, when he has realized, that Mark Hughes is a manager with little ambition, who confuses poor performances with good ones, prefers playing grandads than expensive young players and who finallly has proven this season his tactical incompetence a bunch of times. In Addition he has not been able to integrate good signs and build up a strong team, especially on the forward position or the Nr. 10 role, which are very important for Arnis game. Think, these are the reasons why Arni is convincing a transfer.....not because of his brother or the money, as many people here complaining about I can understand the decision of a 28year old player who has the chance of a new challenge after that woeful season in a team, playing constantly a frustrating football. Nice try dan.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 17, 2017 14:25:19 GMT
people complaining about 3 million less? I think we're at the stage where if it is £22m, we're close enough to not have to risk being stuck with a pissed off player... get him out, off the wage bill and move on. If we're going to haggle over an extra 10% at this stage, and it breaks down, we're £22m + his wages worse off than if we had sold him.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 14:29:09 GMT
people complaining about 3 million less? I think we're at the stage where if it is £22m, we're close enough to not have to risk being stuck with a pissed off player... get him out, off the wage bill and move on. If we're going to haggle over an extra 10% at this stage, and it breaks down, we're £22m + his wages worse off than if we had sold him. Agreed. 22m is a huge fee for a player that I don't think is worth it. Get rid now!
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 17, 2017 14:41:20 GMT
The way I see it is...as a youngster he clearly had the talent just not the right attitude n Temprement, so nobody's ever really paid much money therefore not earning as much with the signing on fee....until now, and with him being the age he is it probably is his last chance for someone to pay a huge fee for him to set him and his brother up for life, I have a feeling he'd sign for the Vale if the money was right! Still has the best first touch I've seen in a stoke shirt though.
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Post by s7oke on Jul 17, 2017 14:45:44 GMT
The way I see it is...as a youngster he clearly had the talent just not the right attitude n Temprement, so nobody's ever really paid much money therefore not earning as much with the signing on fee....until now, and with him being the age he is it probably is his last chance for someone to pay a huge fee for him to set him and his brother up for life, I have a feeling he'd sign for the Vale if the money was right! Still has the best first touch I've seen in a stoke shirt though. I agree All except the first touch bit Peter hoekstra for me 😁
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 14:52:16 GMT
The way I see it is...as a youngster he clearly had the talent just not the right attitude n Temprement, so nobody's ever really paid much money therefore not earning as much with the signing on fee....until now, and with him being the age he is it probably is his last chance for someone to pay a huge fee for him to set him and his brother up for life, I have a feeling he'd sign for the Vale if the money was right! Still has the best first touch I've seen in a stoke shirt though.Fuller for me.
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Post by stokiekm on Jul 17, 2017 15:16:47 GMT
Just had a thought. Benji has continually reminded us that it is net spend that matters. So I guess we should accept the lowest bid and overspend on a replacement. I'd take £30m if we went out and spent it in sakho but I suspect our net spend post walters and Arnie will be -25 /-28 and with a team that lacks three regular starters from a team that spent second half of last year towards the foot of the form table . Lol
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Post by holdmedelilah on Jul 17, 2017 15:21:35 GMT
I'd take £30m if we went out and spent it in sakho but I suspect our net spend post walters and Arnie will be -25 /-28 and with a team that lacks three regular starters from a team that spent second half of last year towards the foot of the form table . Lol Is Sakho one of these newer places....bit like Aldi and Lidl?
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 15:24:10 GMT
I think we're at the stage where if it is £22m, we're close enough to not have to risk being stuck with a pissed off player... get him out, off the wage bill and move on. If we're going to haggle over an extra 10% at this stage, and it breaks down, we're £22m + his wages worse off than if we had sold him. Agreed. 22m is a huge fee for a player that I don't think is worth it. Get rid now! As long as you don't think he's worth it that all that counts eh?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 15:25:35 GMT
Agreed. 22m is a huge fee for a player that I don't think is worth it. Get rid now! As long as you don't think he's worth it that all that counts eh? Well we're making a huge profit. I don't see us getting a fee like that again for him if he were to stay. Best to cash in on an inconsistent player for a big fee.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 17, 2017 15:35:26 GMT
The way I see it is...as a youngster he clearly had the talent just not the right attitude n Temprement, so nobody's ever really paid much money therefore not earning as much with the signing on fee....until now, and with him being the age he is it probably is his last chance for someone to pay a huge fee for him to set him and his brother up for life, I have a feeling he'd sign for the Vale if the money was right! Still has the best first touch I've seen in a stoke shirt though. Martin Carruthers for me!!!
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 15:43:54 GMT
As long as you don't think he's worth it that all that counts eh? Well we're making a huge profit. I don't see us getting a fee like that again for him if he were to stay. Best to cash in on an inconsistent player for a big fee. Atm he's worth at least 25m and no matter how inconsistent he may be,he's our best player.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 15:54:30 GMT
Well we're making a huge profit. I don't see us getting a fee like that again for him if he were to stay. Best to cash in on an inconsistent player for a big fee. Atm he's worth at least 25m and no matter how inconsistent he may be,he's our best player. Our best player is Shaqiri. Much more influential than Arnie. We will have no problems replacing Arnautovic.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 17, 2017 16:04:14 GMT
Atm he's worth at least 25m and no matter how inconsistent he may be,he's our best player. Our best player is Shaqiri. Much more influential than Arnie. We will have no problems replacing Arnautovic. I agree if he plays over 30 games I could see us doing well.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 16:09:00 GMT
Atm he's worth at least 25m and no matter how inconsistent he may be,he's our best player. Our best player is Shaqiri. Much more influential than Arnie. We will have no problems replacing Arnautovic. See,there goes whatever little credibility you have.well done.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 16:11:32 GMT
Our best player is Shaqiri. Much more influential than Arnie. We will have no problems replacing Arnautovic. See,there goes whatever little credibility you have.well done. Why? Because I have a different opinion to you?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:12:47 GMT
Atm he's worth at least 25m and no matter how inconsistent he may be,he's our best player. Our best player is Shaqiri. Much more influential than Arnie. We will have no problems replacing Arnautovic. Shaqiri is a fantastic player, but I think Arnie has had more effect for us so far. He is definitely a £30m player in this market.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 16:14:59 GMT
See,there goes whatever little credibility you have.well done. Why? Because I have a different opinion to you? Not at all,it's just that your opinion is ridiculous.. You may have the opinion that the world is flat but you would still be wrong.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 17, 2017 16:24:18 GMT
Why? Because I have a different opinion to you? Not at all,it's just that your opinion is ridiculous.. You may have the opinion that the world is flat but you would still be wrong. Are you really comparing me saying Shaqiri is our best player to the ridiculousness of saying the world is flat?!?! Don't ever quote me again.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 16:26:29 GMT
Not at all,it's just that your opinion is ridiculous.. You may have the opinion that the world is flat but you would still be wrong. Are you really comparing me saying Shaqiri is our best player to the ridiculousness of saying the world is flat?!?! Don't ever quote me again. Or saying Arnie will be easily replaced....oops I quoted you!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:28:50 GMT
Are you really comparing me saying Shaqiri is our best player to the ridiculousness of saying the world is flat?!?! Don't ever quote me again. Or saying Arnie will be easily replaced....oops I quoted you! Arnie HAS been easily replaced.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 16:31:32 GMT
Or saying Arnie will be easily replaced....oops I quoted you! Arnie HAS been easily replaced. Has he?...so you're pinning your hopes on an unproven youngster are you?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2017 16:31:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:33:31 GMT
Arnie HAS been easily replaced. Has he?...so you're pinning your hopes on an unproven youngster are you? Yes. And my opinion is better than yours, so I win.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:34:50 GMT
Well we're making a huge profit. I don't see us getting a fee like that again for him if he were to stay. Best to cash in on an inconsistent player for a big fee. Atm he's worth at least 25m and no matter how inconsistent he may be,he's our best player. Indeed. Whether we would get that fee again for him is irrelevant. He's our best player. Scores goals and creates them. He has years left at this level. He is in his prime. In today's market he is a 30 million quid player. If west ham don't match the valuation everyone makes peace and arnie will I am sure get back to concentrating on his performance. He is been a top pro throughout his time at stoke
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2017 16:35:10 GMT
Has he?...so you're pinning your hopes on an unproven youngster are you? Yes. And my opinion is better than yours, so I win. The jury is definitely out on that one.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 17, 2017 16:39:41 GMT
Has he?...so you're pinning your hopes on an unproven youngster are you? Yes. And my opinion is better than yours, so I win. I agree!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2017 16:42:55 GMT
More annoyed they've seemingly got Hernandez tbh.
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