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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 11:32:14 GMT
I love it how now a price has allegedly been set it's not enough, when last week everyone was happy about the thought of getting anywhere near 25 million. Hiding to nothing again and fucking transparent. What's transparent about it? If it's true its an absolute crap price which neither reflects the market or his recently signed contract and that's before factoring in a Prem Club to Prem Club premium. For once all the cards are stacked in our favour and we still fuck it up. A couple of no marks on Twitter post a couple of things that may or may not be true and we've fucked it up? All the club are guilty of at the moment is rejecting two bids, unless I've missed something the rest is just pure speculation?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 16, 2017 11:33:55 GMT
Anyone else seriously lacking in excitement for the upcoming season? I'm not. Looking forward to it as always Only Gypsy Rose Lee can see the future so we can all hope for a cracking season!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 16, 2017 11:34:33 GMT
What's transparent about it? If it's true its an absolute crap price which neither reflects the market or his recently signed contract and that's before factoring in a Prem Club to Prem Club premium. For once all the cards are stacked in our favour and we still fuck it up. A couple of no marks on Twitter post a couple of things that may or may not be true and we've fucked it up? All the club are guilty of at the moment is rejecting two bids, unless I've missed something the rest is just pure speculation? That's why I said 'if true', if we can't comment on speculation we may as well shut the board down until the end of August shouldn't we?
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Post by barcaontrent on Jul 16, 2017 11:40:49 GMT
£22m is a joke £30 m atleast or piss off
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Post by bolders on Jul 16, 2017 11:44:13 GMT
I say we have said, or let slip ;-) £30m to push them for £25m
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 16, 2017 11:49:16 GMT
A full back has just moved for £53M.
£30M for Arnie would represent a bargain for anyone who actually wanted him. If WHU really want him they will pay at least £30M.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 11:49:48 GMT
A couple of no marks on Twitter post a couple of things that may or may not be true and we've fucked it up? All the club are guilty of at the moment is rejecting two bids, unless I've missed something the rest is just pure speculation? That's why I said 'if true', if we can't comment on speculation we may as well shut the board down until the end of August shouldn't we? "For once all the cards are stacked in our favour and we still fuck it up"
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 16, 2017 11:54:13 GMT
That's why I said 'if true', if we can't comment on speculation we may as well shut the board down until the end of August shouldn't we? "For once all the cards are stacked in our favour and we still fuck it up" If true
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 16, 2017 11:56:39 GMT
11:27 ARNAUTOVIC PRICE TAG Stoke have slapped a £30m price tag on Marko Arnautovic, according to The Sun. It’s reported that the winger has set his heart on playing in London and West Ham have already had a couple of bids knocked back. Let's hope this is the first time the sun have reported the truth if I was Coates is give him a piggy back to London for 30 million If arnie was a 30 million pound player,bigger clubs would be in for him. The fact that they aren't tells us he isnt. We just need to take what we can get and sit back and see how his attitude goes on at west ham. Good riddance and a 20 million pound profit with a younger more talented player already at the club to take his place. Just praying that Hughes gets the proceeds of his sale to bring in the likes of Delph and Bruno or even Sacko!
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Post by elystokie on Jul 16, 2017 11:57:21 GMT
22.5m for our most important player and selling to a rival in the Premier League It just feels wrong on so many levels, but im not surprised at the pizzaboys It's going to happen be sure of that, it shows a massive profit on the books, and when a player decides to go it's curtains for him at his club! We also have a good young replacement who will this season grow into a star,so thanks Arnie, you gave us a lot of pleasure.......now piss off and take your greedy twat brother with you! Edit.Please feel free to cause the same grief to the Dildomeisters next summer. Just my opinion but I think the 'good young replacement' has more to do with this than a lot of people think, given a good run of games it doesn't take a massive leap of faith to see him displacing Arnie in the team in my opinion, him and his dickhead brother may just be cashing in while his stock is still fairly high. I have no wish to see him in a Stoke shirt again, he's burnt his bridges as far as I'm concerned and I just hope and pray that WHU and him underestimate the vitriol coming his way when they play at our place, unfortunately I can see him being 'injured' for that game.
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Post by mrred on Jul 16, 2017 11:58:14 GMT
25-30 should be the ballpark. Anything less from a London club that's slimed its way out of paying for a new stadium would once again show how incompetent our hiarachy is.
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Post by bhp on Jul 16, 2017 12:00:02 GMT
A full back has just moved for £53M. £30M for Arnie would represent a bargain for anyone who actually wanted him. If WHU really want him they will pay at least £30M. How is Kyle Walker relevant?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 12:14:30 GMT
I reckon the 'village idiot' in Stoke on Trent
right now
could put a simple spreadsheet of recent transfer activity benchmarks together showing his current value would be worth upwards of £30m
probably £35m
its the ' Smalltown' thing kicking in again
We are a major worldwide brand sponsored by, one of the biggest betting companies on the planet
and yet
run at times, like an 'arse end of fucking nowhere' 'smalltown' football club
not even, a City club
AND only just visiting the premier league rather than - having been a solid fixture for some ten years now
(walks off -- shaking head in disbelief at some of the shyte spoken on this thread)
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 16, 2017 12:20:00 GMT
I love it how now a price has allegedly been set it's not enough, when last week everyone was happy about the thought of getting anywhere near 25 million. Hiding to nothing again and fucking transparent. What's transparent about it? If it's true its an absolute crap price which neither reflects the market or his recently signed contract and that's before factoring in a Prem Club to Prem Club premium. For once all the cards are stacked in our favour and we still fuck it up. Nothing needs to be transparent when it comes to your view sheik 😆 All I've said that he's not worth £35million, he isn't. I think we SHOULD hold out for 25+. But a dodgy tweet later and yet again stoke are shit for accepting 22, theyll never learn. As i said its so transparent.
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Post by stokie1130 on Jul 16, 2017 12:21:09 GMT
If or when this happens I will not be applauding him on his return or giving him a warm welcome back, stinks of kavanagh, all over again, West ham, is not showing ambition, which is said to be his main reason for wanting to leave.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 16, 2017 12:21:38 GMT
I reckon the 'village idiot' in Stoke on Trent right now could put a simple spreadsheet of recent transfer activity benchmarks together showing his current value would be worth upwards of £30m probably £35m its the ' Smalltown' thing kicking in again We are a major worldwide brand sponsored by, one of the biggest betting companies on the planet and yet run at times, like an 'arse end of fucking nowhere' 'smalltown' football club not even, a City club AND only just visiting the premier league rather than - having been a solid fixture for some ten years now (walks off -- shaking head in disbelief at some of the shyte spoken on this thread) Yet Warringtons village idiot can't even construct a simple post. Get your shellsuit on.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Jul 16, 2017 12:21:50 GMT
£25 million down now and extra £5 million if they stay up. It'd be worth losing 5m to see them relegated 😏
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 16, 2017 12:24:04 GMT
I can seriously see a £20m bid plus a player thrown in ...snodgrass/Carrol I'd take snodgrass in a heart beat Carroll would score a dozen per season if he played half the games and if he were cheap he's worth a risk! We would have to extend the treatment room and hire a new physio for him and shaq 😀
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Post by Davef on Jul 16, 2017 12:24:48 GMT
I reckon the 'village idiot' in Stoke on Trent right now could put a simple spreadsheet of recent transfer activity benchmarks together showing his current value would be worth upwards of £30m probably £35m its the ' Smalltown' thing kicking in again We are a major worldwide brand sponsored by, one of the biggest betting companies on the planet and yet run at times, like an 'arse end of fucking nowhere' 'smalltown' football club not even, a City club AND only just visiting the premier league rather than - having been a solid fixture for some ten years now (walks off -- shaking head in disbelief at some of the shyte spoken on this thread) Which you've just added to.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 16, 2017 12:39:10 GMT
What's transparent about it? If it's true its an absolute crap price which neither reflects the market or his recently signed contract and that's before factoring in a Prem Club to Prem Club premium. For once all the cards are stacked in our favour and we still fuck it up. Nothing needs to be transparent when it comes to your view sheik 😆 All I've said that he's not worth £35million, he isn't. I think we SHOULD hold out for 25+. But a dodgy tweet later and yet again stoke are shit for accepting 22, theyll never learn. As i said its so transparent. Well we'll see shortly won't we. Although I'm a bit perplexed by this new message board rule where only cast iron facts can be discussed! Should make things errr interesting!
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jul 16, 2017 12:43:37 GMT
West Ham need to sell.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 16, 2017 12:50:53 GMT
Nothing needs to be transparent when it comes to your view sheik 😆 All I've said that he's not worth £35million, he isn't. I think we SHOULD hold out for 25+. But a dodgy tweet later and yet again stoke are shit for accepting 22, theyll never learn. As i said its so transparent. Well we'll see shortly won't we. Although I'm a bit perplexed by this new message board rule where only cast iron facts can be discussed! Should make things errr interesting! You may as well stop posting dear. 😗
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 16, 2017 12:58:27 GMT
A full back has just moved for £53M. £30M for Arnie would represent a bargain for anyone who actually wanted him. If WHU really want him they will pay at least £30M. How is Kyle Walker relevant? He is indicative of the inflated state of the transfer market. Last season's prices are now history. This season's fees are relevant. Last year Spurs would have done well to get £25M for Walker. The market is mad. Buyers have to pay what sellers want or search elsewhere. Man City were unable to do a deal for Dani Alvez and as a consequence were forced to pay a huge fee for Walker. WHU should be given the same choice; do what it takes to complete a deal or look elsewhere. We should not accept anything less than what appears to be a mental fee, after all Arnie is contracted to our club for a long time and we do not need money to survive.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 16, 2017 12:59:40 GMT
Bolasie is the same age (I think) as Arnie, was the star player in a mid-table side and went for £25m last summer.
Think that's the fee we should sell at.
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Post by Davef on Jul 16, 2017 13:06:15 GMT
Nothing needs to be transparent when it comes to your view sheik 😆 All I've said that he's not worth £35million, he isn't. I think we SHOULD hold out for 25+. But a dodgy tweet later and yet again stoke are shit for accepting 22, theyll never learn. As i said its so transparent. Well we'll see shortly won't we. Although I'm a bit perplexed by this new message board rule where only cast iron facts can be discussed! Should make things errr interesting! There's nothing wrong with discussing speculation. What is wrong is the insults and abuse directed at people over something that hasn't even happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 13:06:58 GMT
Just had a thought. Benji has continually reminded us that it is net spend that matters. So I guess we should accept the lowest bid and overspend on a replacement.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jul 16, 2017 13:08:35 GMT
For what its worth i would let him go with a smile & tell him what a complete tit he is going to make of himself. West Ham are no better than us they have a manager who from all accounts was on thin ice last season & a poor start could see him out the door. London & its bright lights may look dazzling but i would very much live in leafy Cheshire than down there. And lets see how they react to one of his sulks & temper tantrums when things do not go his way. He is no Payet by a long chalk which i think they are trying to replace so good luck Arnie but your making a huge mistake sunshine & remember who signed you when nobody else would touch you we gave you that chance & made you a better player.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 13:14:24 GMT
Just had a thought. Benji has continually reminded us that it is net spend that matters. So I guess we should accept the lowest bid and overspend on a replacement. I'd take £30m if we went out and spent it in sakho but I suspect our net spend post walters and Arnie will be -25 /-28 and with a team that lacks three regular starters from a team that spent second half of last year towards the foot of the form table .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 13:15:38 GMT
Shell suit is well and truly on.
People get upset when I talk like this - you see I live and work with fans of big City clubs - and I want Stoke City to finally change its mentality to become another truly 'big city club'.
It irks me greatly though when the club and its fans regularly talk themselves down and seem happy to settle for second best.
e.g.
It took an absolute bloody age to finally shove a few bloody seats in one corner to at least, make the stadium look finished off for worldwide TV
(shouldve been done years ago - and wouldve cost much less than right now_)
The angst - the endless debating - the procrastination by the football club whose income was rising exponentially year on year whilst they stalled - the endless gnashing of teeth over something so bleeding obvious, it was painful to witness. Finally, its been done and - not before time
Now we come to our star player wanting to leave
So we transfer this, our prize asset - something we need to realize to the highest extent in monetary terms in the current market so - what do we do ?
WE OURSELVES start talking numbers that actually bear little resemblance to his actual worth ?
Where a fucking left back has just gone for fifty fucking million - with about as much talent as Arnie has in his toenail pairings !!!!
Still, Im sure --we know our place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2017 13:21:25 GMT
Shell suit is well and truly on. People get upset when I talk like this - you see I live and work with fans of big City clubs - and I want Stoke City to finally change its mentality to become another truly 'big city club'. It irks me greatly though when the club and its fans regularly talk themselves down and seem happy to settle for second best. e.g. It took an absolute bloody age to finally shove a few bloody seats in one corner to at least, make the stadium look finished off for worldwide TV (shouldve been done years ago - and wouldve cost much less than right now_) The angst - the endless debating - the procrastination by the football club whose income was rising exponentially year on year whilst they stalled - the endless gnashing of teeth over something so bleeding obvious, it was painful to witness. Finally, its been done and - not before time Now we come to our star player wanting to leave So we transfer this, our prize asset - something we need to realize to the highest extent in monetary terms in the current market so - what do we do ? WE OURSELVES start talking numbers that actually bear little resemblance to his actual worth ? Where a fucking left back has just gone for fifty fucking million - with about as much talent as Arnie has in his toenail pairings !!!! Still, Im sure --we know our place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Walker is a far better player than Arnie. Arnie is great.. up to a point. He won't succeed at West Ham. Irrespective of numbers he's burnt his bridges.sell him and promote Ramadan who we can all (apart from Benji) see is a special talent. By all means get another winger in as well but defenders are priority.
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