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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 12, 2017 15:41:20 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 12, 2017 15:41:46 GMT
Arnie is just as important to us as Sigurdsson is for Swansea, they are holding out for £50m, we shouldn't even entertain bids under £30m in the current market.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 12, 2017 15:44:02 GMT
I reckon he'll go for £21 million in the end.
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Post by skelman on Jul 12, 2017 15:44:45 GMT
Would love to see some footage of Arnie in Sissland just after his twat of a brother had told him a second bid had been rejected! LOL
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Post by skelman on Jul 12, 2017 15:45:33 GMT
Would love to see some footage of Arnie in Swissland just after his twat of a brother had told him a second bid had been rejected! LOL
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Post by marshy on Jul 12, 2017 15:48:16 GMT
So we labelled their £15m offer insulting and they return with an extra £2m?!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 12, 2017 15:51:00 GMT
Arnie is just as important to us as Sigurdsson is for Swansea, they are holding out for £50m, we shouldn't even entertain bids under £30m in the current market. Disagree. I felt we played better when Arnie wasn't playing.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 12, 2017 15:52:18 GMT
I'm hoping we get something close to £30m. I'll still be gutted either way though. 30 million isn't realistic though is it? He's 28 and he's unlikely to get better. Possibly. But Bolasie is 28 and unlikely to get better and he went for £30m. I think we should hold out for something near to that.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 12, 2017 15:54:02 GMT
Some different stories going around about the size of the bid🤔
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 12, 2017 15:54:07 GMT
30 million isn't realistic though is it? He's 28 and he's unlikely to get better. Possibly. But Bolasie is 28 and unlikely to get better and he went for £30m. I think we should hold out for something near to that. That is what the transfer request and making his apparent unhappiness has done. Under normal circumstances we probably would've gone "£30m and he's yours" but now Arnie's turned into a prick he's forced us into considering offers less than we should be.
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Post by adi on Jul 12, 2017 15:54:38 GMT
£25mil is outside their grasp but I think he'll go for £21-22, although I think we'd take £20m
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 12, 2017 15:55:05 GMT
I assume that for £17m, Marko's brother thinks we should have let him go and thrown in Bojan as well.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 12, 2017 15:55:17 GMT
Arnie is just as important to us as Sigurdsson is for Swansea, they are holding out for £50m, we shouldn't even entertain bids under £30m in the current market. Disagree. I felt we played better when Arnie wasn't playing. Arnie is Decent but if I had a choice of him or Sigurdsson I'd take Sigurdsson by a country mile he sets more chances up and scores more goals 20m tops for Arnie if he didn't miss so many sitters then 30 poss but he should have had 15-20 goals last season
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Post by Davef on Jul 12, 2017 15:56:05 GMT
Some different stories going around about the size of the bid🤔 Journalists in plucking numbers out of the air shocker.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 12, 2017 15:56:22 GMT
£20m plus a few add ons like, £1m for every goal he has the audacity to score past us.
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Post by RAF on Jul 12, 2017 15:59:13 GMT
I wonder if the reason his brother is getting the arse on is because the more we ask for the more it marginalises his signing on fee? Or would that not affect it?
Or perhaps his agents fees as he has promised West Ham he would get his brother across the line for 15 mill and we aren't playing ball.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 12, 2017 15:59:25 GMT
Disagree. I felt we played better when Arnie wasn't playing. Arnie is Decent but if I had a choice of him or Sigurdsson I'd take Sigurdsson by a country mile he sets more chances up and scores more goals 20m tops for Arnie if he didn't miss so many sitters then 30 poss but he should have had 15-20 goals last season Exacty. I'd have Sigurdsson any day over Arnie. Arnie is just too inconsistent for me.
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Post by dioufsboots on Jul 12, 2017 16:05:16 GMT
20 million is good money for somebody that only turns up when he feels like it, we got sobhi to come straight in who is pure class anyway and will probably have a much better career than arnie so that leaves us 20 million up,a good back up winger to shaq and sobhi, and somebody like nathaniel chalobah with that money and that is good business imo
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 12, 2017 16:08:25 GMT
Some different stories going around about the size of the bid🤔 Journalists in plucking numbers out of the air shocker. Looks that way
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Post by skelman on Jul 12, 2017 16:11:44 GMT
I wonder if the reason his brother is getting the arse on is because the more we ask for the more it marginalises his signing on fee? Or would that not affect it? Or perhaps his agents fees as he has promised West Ham he would get his brother across the line for 15 mill and we aren't playing ball. H Spot on I would think ! So as previously said £20m + agent's and Arnautovic's signing on fee (already probably negotiated) and he's all yours !!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 12, 2017 16:12:44 GMT
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Post by MrDBrent on Jul 12, 2017 16:15:19 GMT
Arnie to West Ham really saddens me
No respect shown when we returns to the Brit
Wanker
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Post by StoKeith on Jul 12, 2017 16:16:55 GMT
Good. In the current climate, £30m would be more reasonable, especially as he's contracted to 2020.
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Post by burge2u on Jul 12, 2017 16:17:28 GMT
Some different stories going around about the size of the bid🤔 Journalists in plucking numbers out of the air shocker. If this is all about maximising the transfer fee, I would just like to place on record the fact that Arnie is the most consistent player that I've ever seen in 43 years of watching Stoke City. His commitment, pace, ability to tackle & track back are second to none. Not to mention dying for the cause by playing through injury. ..... there, that should jack up the price by a couple of million.
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Post by skelman on Jul 12, 2017 16:22:19 GMT
Journalists in plucking numbers out of the air shocker. If this is all about maximising the transfer fee, I would just like to place on record the fact that Arnie is the most consistent player that I've ever seen in 43 years of watching Stoke City. His commitment, pace, ability to tackle & track back are second to none. Not to mention dying for the cause by playing through injury. ..... there, that should jack up the price by a couple of million. That's a real BIGLY BIG recommendation !!
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Post by march4 on Jul 12, 2017 16:22:41 GMT
The Bolasie fee is the benchmark here.
Isn't Arnie younger and on a longer contract?
It is sensible to say Arnie's fee should be the Bolasie fee plus £3M or £4M
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 12, 2017 16:28:58 GMT
Yet again we give away players. In today's mad climate it's dirt cheap. Clueless fucks Stoke. We haven't accepted a bid yet. Perhaps save your venom for if and when do and if it's a shit offer, not what a journalist thinks we want? We'll see won't we.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 12, 2017 16:31:10 GMT
hold out for 25 million not a penny less if they want him bad enough they will pay it
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 12, 2017 16:31:15 GMT
Arnie is Decent but if I had a choice of him or Sigurdsson I'd take Sigurdsson by a country mile he sets more chances up and scores more goals 20m tops for Arnie if he didn't miss so many sitters then 30 poss but he should have had 15-20 goals last season Exacty. I'd have Sigurdsson any day over Arnie. Arnie is just too inconsistent for me. Everyone would have Sigurdsson, apparently he's the better player by £30million...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2017 16:34:41 GMT
It's do with respect Pugs. Absolutely nothing wrong with a player wanting to improve his lot but we gave him the security of a huge contract just 12 months ago and you don't then turn around and attempt to weaken our negotiating hand with the antics they're trying to pull at the moment. It just shows complete contempt for Stoke City football club. I honestly couldn't give a toss. Â If we wanted rid of him the club would do all sorts of shit to make it happen. Â Respect is a two way street IMHO. And to talk about contempt... you could say the same about the club and it's attitude towards its own supporters. How can you say you couldn't give a toss, whilst at exactly the same time moaning your sack off that we're going to accept too low a fee for him? He and his brothers' contempt for the club will directly affect our negotiating hand.
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