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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 11, 2017 20:20:28 GMT
I think if Spurs or Liverpool had come in for him we'd all be understanding if still gutted. The fury is because it's come out of the blue a year after he's signed a new deal and it's transparently about money when he's already a very wealthy man. All this 'he was rubbish last season' stuff - take away his contribution and we could be mulling over an exciting curtain raiser at the Pirelli Stadium in a few weeks time. I know I'm in the minority but if we'd had an offer for 25m I'd like to think we'd accept it regardless of whether he wants to go. By that I really think he was poor last season, I also think Shaq was average until the very end. I do see what you're saying about the money but we do benefit by being on the other side of the fence for some of these deals. Ramadan arguably a recent example where his home club probably thought they could keep hold of him till a top European club come in yet we flash the cash and he's our. I don't blame Arnie or his agent for pushing nonsense, it's common place, I also don't expect Stoke to buy it. A season where we could see some of our supposedly rated youngsters for me is exciting even if it means we'll be in for a nervy season.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 11, 2017 20:24:15 GMT
I think if Spurs or Liverpool had come in for him we'd all be understanding if still gutted. The fury is because it's come out of the blue a year after he's signed a new deal and it's transparently about money when he's already a very wealthy man. All this 'he was rubbish last season' stuff - take away his contribution and we could be mulling over an exciting curtain raiser at the Pirelli Stadium in a few weeks time. I know I'm in the minority but if we'd had an offer for 25m I'd like to think we'd accept it regardless of whether he wants to go. By that I really think he was poor last season, I also think Shaq was average until the very end. I do see what you're saying about the money but we do benefit by being on the other side of the fence for some of these deals. Ramadan arguably a recent example where his home club probably thought they could keep hold of him till a top European club come in yet we flash the cash and he's our. I don't blame Arnie or his agent for pushing nonsense, it's common place, I also don't expect Stoke to buy it. A season where we could see some of our supposedly rated youngsters for me is exciting even if it means we'll be in for a nervy season. If we get an offer of that size he'll go, there's little other option. As I said, perceived 'poor season' or otherwise he directly contributed to a quarter of the goals we scored plus our only cup goal. That's a huge hole to fill and a huge risk to rely on kids alone to fill it.
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Post by arnie3010 on Jul 11, 2017 20:25:07 GMT
£27m + Sam Byram
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 11, 2017 20:35:07 GMT
Love to be a fly on the wall when arnie and adam sit next talk link
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Post by bhp on Jul 11, 2017 20:40:40 GMT
Who the heck is going pay that for him? Not our problem. It will be our problem when he have a player who doesn't want to be here on our books.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2017 20:44:10 GMT
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Post by burge2u on Jul 11, 2017 20:49:31 GMT
It will be our problem when he have a player who doesn't want to be here on our books. It's better him throwing a strop in the reserves, rather than in the first team. If he doesn't want to play for Stoke then I don't want to watch him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 20:51:18 GMT
If this is true I bet we have accepted £20m 😳
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Post by george2again on Jul 11, 2017 20:53:29 GMT
We should follow Swansea on this one. Just because were not one of the big boys shouldn't mean we take less for our player. If he was playing for a top 7 club it would be a guaranteed 40 million cos were stoke its 20-25 million. Swansea have done right, slap the price on and wait, if they want him they pay it if not the payer has to understand that business works you have to meet valuation.
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Post by bhp on Jul 11, 2017 20:53:55 GMT
It will be our problem when he have a player who doesn't want to be here on our books. It's better him throwing a strop in the reserves, rather than in the first team. If he doesn't want to play for Stoke then I don't want to watch him. We'll yeah I don't want to watch him if he doesn't want to be here, my point really instead of slapping £50m on him just flog him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2017 20:56:50 GMT
Good news. We need it done now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 20:58:47 GMT
Good news. We need it done now. I just have a bad feeling we have accepted a low offer.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 11, 2017 20:59:08 GMT
I just hope to god we have some ideas for a replacement. Dragging it out over the summer is not good for anyone
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Post by wuzza on Jul 11, 2017 21:00:53 GMT
I really can't see us turning down £20m.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 11, 2017 21:05:53 GMT
Well cheers Arnie and your cunt of a brother, you've probably robbed us of about £10m due to your childish antics over the past few days, nice way to say goodbye.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 21:07:43 GMT
I think if Spurs or Liverpool had come in for him we'd all be understanding if still gutted. The fury is because it's come out of the blue a year after he's signed a new deal and it's transparently about money when he's already a very wealthy man. All this 'he was rubbish last season' stuff - take away his contribution and we could be mulling over an exciting curtain raiser at the Pirelli Stadium in a few weeks time. That's where Daniel Arnautovic is getting his wires crossed. Not standing in the way of a player is when a proper club comes knocking with a respectful fee for a player who will have the chance to go on and win major trophies and play Champions League football, which will undoubtedly happen with Jack Butland. Exactly. West Ham have more ambition? Fucks sake...jack cork just went for 10 million and west ham think a measly 15 million is a reasonable offer for Arnie. As always with West Ham it is cheap, tacky, sleazy, with an obvious element of illegally tapping up our player to try and get him to pressure stoke into accepting a shit offer from small time west ham. The club should tell Arnie he can go elsewhere, but not wet sham.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2017 21:13:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 21:16:32 GMT
If he goes to west ham like this, he's treated the club with disrespect and burnt his bridges for me.
He should not be getting a nice round of applause next time he shows his face at stoke
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2017 21:17:52 GMT
If he goes to west ham like this, he's treated the club with disrespect and burnt his bridges for me. He should not be getting a nice round of applause next time he shows his face at stoke Don't think there's any danger of that! 4 years trashed in 24 hours.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 11, 2017 21:21:05 GMT
You would pay him an extra 1 million a year? If it'll keep him here then yes. We are better with him. A player that is trying for a pay rise when he recently received a new contract? If he doesn't want to be here let him go.He was poor last season, and Sobhi is a willing replacement.For £15 million I would piggy back him all the way to London.
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Post by bhp on Jul 11, 2017 21:21:27 GMT
Why is he raving about Arnautovic's free kicks? The ones that hit the back of Block 23?
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jul 11, 2017 21:23:46 GMT
He's going to be public enemy number one when he comes back here.
Unfortunately, he'll tear Pieters a new one!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 21:23:52 GMT
If he goes to west ham like this, he's treated the club with disrespect and burnt his bridges for me. He should not be getting a nice round of applause next time he shows his face at stoke Don't think there's any danger of that! 4 years trashed in 24 hours. Yes. I feel for the owners here. People might be having a go for a lack of spending but they are good, honourable people. The same people that gave Mama Sidibe every chance to succeed after his injuries, the same people that looked after Wilko with his brain injury, the same people who have given Ireland a 6 month deal to get his fitness back and the same people that handed Rory Delap a contract whilst he was lying in bed with his leg in bits. The same people who made Arnautovic the highest or one of the highest paid players in our history last summer. They've had it thrown back in their faces with this and he'd rather take the cash and play for those pair of pricks? Good riddance.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2017 21:27:31 GMT
I've only just seen the incident on twitter from a SSN clip fuck me, what a piss taking twat.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2017 21:29:57 GMT
I've only just seen the incident on twitter from a SSN clip fuck me, what a piss taking twat. Momo I said on here last night how many times during the season does he go down but get up with fuck all wrong with him
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 11, 2017 21:33:07 GMT
Don't think there's any danger of that! 4 years trashed in 24 hours. Yes. I feel for the owners here. People might be having a go for a lack of spending but they are good, honourable people. The same people that gave Mama Sidibe every chance to succeed after his injuries, the same people that looked after Wilko with his brain injury, the same people who have given Ireland a 6 month deal to get his fitness back and the same people that handed Rory Delap a contract whilst he was lying in bed with his leg in bits. The same people who made Arnautovic the highest or one of the highest paid players in our history last summer. They've had it thrown back in their faces with this and he'd rather take the cash and play for those pair of pricks? Good riddance. If true I hope he gets the injury he is reported to be faking from last night on his first game for west ham
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 11, 2017 21:36:14 GMT
At risk of upsetting the morale of the team I know, but I would love Stoke to take a stand against footballers and keep the twat in the reserves. If clubs did this with players under contract it would soon eradicate the leaches and hopefully bring them back down to earth.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 11, 2017 21:37:06 GMT
I've gone from being gutted to wanting to eviscerate him and his fucking cunt of a brother within 24 hours.
I can't wait for the West Ham game next season now, that's going to be one violent atmosphere.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 11, 2017 21:38:16 GMT
Good news. We need it done now. Just a coincidence that we've suddenly agreed a fee for Bruno which is higher than that reported originally? Were Porto being cunts after all?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 21:43:45 GMT
For fuck's sake. If that happens, I'll shove my Season Card right up Scholes' vagina. £15m?? Fuck off. Stop quivering Beefy. It's fake news OK, OK, I'm holding my hands up. I've been well and truly had 'in the net'😶 But as I said, if that happens....etc etc
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