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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2017 21:05:02 GMT
I really hope we get 30m. A deal rising to 25m just isn't acceptable really. Not having to pay the player off, courtesy of his transfer request,makes £25m like a £30m deal. Would depend on how it's structured though. If he doesn't stay he's going to be on the biggest sulk ever and be of no use. We have to sell him this window.😶 I'm a vengeful fuck tbh. 30m or the reserves.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 10, 2017 21:06:06 GMT
Long contract or not, he's gone. (See Payet the Prick!) Probably needs to go now sooner than later to avoid squad disruption. Get as big a fee as possible and invest it wisely. I thought Arnie was great but I've lost respect for him, saying we lack ambition and then moving to WHU, who does he think he's fooling. The vindictive me hopes it goes tits up for him with those pricks!! If I was Coates I'd fuck him off then show real ambition and blow 3/4 of the premier league out of the water. Then watch the big girl cry.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 10, 2017 21:06:16 GMT
They are unhappy that a Stoke player has played for Stoke. Not having that to be honest.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 10, 2017 21:07:10 GMT
Would be fun if the club bankrolled season long loan moves of arnie and imbula to the vale.
It wouldn't financial winner or in any way helpful but it would put them in their place
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Post by Davef on Jul 10, 2017 21:09:13 GMT
West Ham obviously consider themselves to be a big club. They should start acting like one if they want our best player.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 10, 2017 21:09:20 GMT
So he reckons they're not happy that he played for us tonight? I don't think i've ever read so much bollocks in all my life, where to even start with that? They might not be happy but it's fuck all to do with them. They made an offer we rejected. He's our player (for a short while anyway). Make a proper offer we can accept and then we might think about not playing him to protect him. Til then fuck off you barrer boy spivs.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 10, 2017 21:09:33 GMT
Not having to pay the player off, courtesy of his transfer request,makes £25m like a £30m deal. Would depend on how it's structured though. If he doesn't stay he's going to be on the biggest sulk ever and be of no use. We have to sell him this window.😶 I'm a vengeful fuck tbh. 30m or the reserves. I'd like to see something like that too but just not realistic in my opinion, he'd be a mare of a disruption. Get him gone quick for as much as possible Looks like you might just get ur wish Bayern, plenty of youth in the team
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Jul 10, 2017 21:09:48 GMT
It's Ramadan Time!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2017 21:11:37 GMT
I'm a vengeful fuck tbh. 30m or the reserves. I'd like to see something like that too but just not realistic in my opinion, he'd be a mare of a disruption. Get him gone quick for as much as possible Looks like you might just get ur wish Bayern, plenty of youth in the team I'd prefer Arnie! They're not ready to be relied upon consistently, they are (and indeed were last season) ready to be used for more than in desperation. We never seem to have the best of both worlds at this damn club.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 10, 2017 21:11:38 GMT
Does this mean I have to rename my dog?
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Post by philb on Jul 10, 2017 21:11:39 GMT
So he reckons they're not happy that he played for us tonight? I don't think i've ever read so much bollocks in all my life, where to even start with that? They might not be happy but it's fuck all to do with them. They made an offer we rejected. He's our player (for a short while anyway). Make a proper offer we can accept and then we might think about not playing him to protect him. Til then fuck off you barrer boy spivs. The next thing will be his agent telling him to refuse to play I can see it coming.
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Post by Jimm on Jul 10, 2017 21:15:50 GMT
We'll end up with 10 million and Snodgrass
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2017 21:17:35 GMT
We'll end up with 10 million and Snodgrass Funny you should say that😄
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Post by philb on Jul 10, 2017 21:18:03 GMT
I'd hate to see him go to a PL rival. I could understand it if it were a top six team as we wouldn't really be competing with them over a season. We've already let Walters go to one of our rivals and you just know these players will probably come back to haunt us at some point. I'd wait for any offers abroad first if I were Stoke. There's no immediate rush to sell him and with all the media coverage someone from Spain or Italy might be interested.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 10, 2017 21:18:04 GMT
If Arni goes, rather than directly replace him I would suggest to get a right winger who operates the full length of the pitch and play Sobhi on the left. I like sobhi. He can be a real player for us But the problem is that he is right footed and only mark hughes would play him on the left Why not play sobhi on the right, where he always played for Al ahly And then get in a left footed left winger We got to a Cup final with left footed ethers on the left and right footed pennant on the right. And in hindsight it surely wasn't that radical an idea?
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Post by george2again on Jul 10, 2017 21:18:57 GMT
Yarmlenko and move on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2017 21:20:27 GMT
We'll end up with 10 million and Snodgrass Funny you should say that😄 If we agreed to any* deal involving him then we're a bunch of tits. *Unless it was 20m and him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:20:39 GMT
I really hope we get 30m. A deal rising to 25m just isn't acceptable really. Not having to pay the player off, courtesy of his transfer request,makes £25m like a £30m deal. Would depend on how it's structured though. If he doesn't stay he's going to be on the biggest sulk ever and be of no use. We have to sell him this window.😶 We don't know that he's going to be on the biggest sulk though, do we? He strikes me as someone who wants to be liked. If we don't get the amount we want and we keep him, I don't think it's a given that he'll cause problems. He could have refused to play today, but he didn't. And let's face it, he could have used the time-honoured 'mind's not in the right place' to get out of the game. He's always had this bad boy image, but we've not really seen it, have we? I'm gutted that he's asked for a transfer. But until he leaves us, I don't see why he should be considered to have burnt his bridges with us. Let's see what happens.
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Post by luke2u on Jul 10, 2017 21:20:46 GMT
If Arni goes, rather than directly replace him I would suggest to get a right winger who operates the full length of the pitch and play Sobhi on the left. I like sobhi. He can be a real player for us But the problem is that he is right footed and only mark hughes would play him on the left Why not play sobhi on the right, where he always played for Al ahly And then get in a left footed left winger We got to a Cup final with left footed ethers on the left and right footed pennant on the right. And in hindsight it surely wasn't that radical an idea? From what I've seen on Youtube, he played at lot on the left for Al Ahly.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 10, 2017 21:25:27 GMT
We'll end up with 10 million and Snodgrass Dont get your hopes up!
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Post by Discovery Stoke on Jul 10, 2017 21:26:05 GMT
Much rather have a more consistent winger than one who does the odd moment in the odd game. Or a fast as fuck winger. Arnie is absolutely rapid...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:27:43 GMT
Not fucking you again I though you were only supposed to have nightmares after you go to sleep. I can imagine you being proper pc. I don't have to imagine what you are.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 10, 2017 21:30:53 GMT
He's been looking for a move since last year. My Austrian mate, whose neighbour knows Arnie (Paul Scharner ex Wigan), says that the Everton thing was to get more money. It's no surprise and his in and out efforts last year suggest he was always going to leave. Time to ship out and move on, injury permitting. If he's out for 6 weeks, which isn't a huge amount of time these days, then all of this is totally hypothetical.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:31:18 GMT
Glad Arnies going. Sick of his head down moody attitude if he doesn't beat his man in the first 15 mins. His attitude then rubs off on others . Get him gone. If anybody doesn't want play for the club with pride . Then they best on the way. Leave him in Switzerland let him walk back.
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 10, 2017 21:32:12 GMT
It sounds simple in that sense, but another 200 pages combined between the 2 players and nearly 2 months later and it may not look as easy as you put it! Yarmo would be the obvious and ideal replacement imo tho.
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2017 21:32:30 GMT
Not having to pay the player off, courtesy of his transfer request,makes £25m like a £30m deal. Would depend on how it's structured though. If he doesn't stay he's going to be on the biggest sulk ever and be of no use. We have to sell him this window.😶 I'm a vengeful fuck tbh. 30m or the reserves. Pure logic😁
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Post by sportsman on Jul 10, 2017 21:32:40 GMT
Much rather have a more consistent winger than one who does the odd moment in the odd game. Or a fast as fuck winger. Arnie is absolutely rapid... Rapid? Rapidly pissing my off more like
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 10, 2017 21:35:16 GMT
I don't think Arnies been happy at Stoke for a while. You can see it in the body language. Only a poor EUROs stopped him from going last summer.
Big clubs won't come in for him because he's not consistent enough. That leaves clubs like West Ham..medium size. Plus London based.
Once the genie comes out of the lamp it won't go back in so we need to get rid.
Disappointing but not the end of the world.
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Post by wembley1972 on Jul 10, 2017 21:36:14 GMT
There are a lot on here being disrespectful to Arnie in my mind. I bet most of them have also had a go at the club because we don't seem to be linked firmly with any exciting signings. I'm pissed off about that myself.
No matter what anyone says he is one of, if not our best player, how do they think he feels about the lack of signings? I want him to stay but understand he wants progression whilst he must see what looks like regression and he is better informed than us.
Makes me wonder what promises were made to get him to sign his last contract.
If Arnie goes, Shaq will be next I reckon. We don't look like we want Imbula.
LACK OF AMBITION !!! He is spot on in my opinion. Good luck to him if he goes, I certainly won't be on his case if he does stay.
The Coates don't know whether to stick or twist with Hughes, they have to back or sack. They are doing nothing, this sends negative vibes to fans and players alike. We will end up keeping the mercenaries that can't find another club and losing those with any desire.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Jul 10, 2017 21:36:24 GMT
On the downside, Arnie might have a point about ambition. I had two threads about lack of ambition shitbinned. Seems the admins on here want to stick their head in the sand too.
On the upside, Sobhi looked like our best player last season.
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