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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 27, 2017 6:47:56 GMT
Well having just watched the least inspiring interview in the history of mankind from Hughes on Sky it's very difficult to argue with anything Arnie has said. It's all well and good getting all outraged at this perceived 'insult' to the club but the fact of the matter is that both the actions and words that have come from SCFC this close season (and for a good while longer) suggest the organisation really doesn't have the stomach for it anymore. We need a couple of big signings to refute the "lack of ambition" tag. At the moment it fits.
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Post by humbersidepotter on Jul 27, 2017 6:50:17 GMT
His comments make me more annoyed that Bards has left. Would have been nice to see him get his karma
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 6:56:11 GMT
Hes signed for a hyped london club....big deal
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Post by rat on Jul 27, 2017 7:08:30 GMT
Basically it hurts. Especially when you think how Hughes stuck with him and eventually coaxed the real player, that everyone hoped, that he could be. I had my doubts for the first 12 months.
But good luck to Arnie, West Ham have bought a top quality striker. I think that we have had the best of him though. The finest first touch winger in the Prem right now, no question. But I do worry about his bulk, but that's not our problem any more.
£25mill in the fucking bank.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 27, 2017 7:38:55 GMT
Well done on chucking petrol on the fire you fucking cunt There has to be a good chance that the greedy, weak minded, childlike tit will crumble under the pressure. That will be a lot of fun to watch.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 27, 2017 7:45:51 GMT
It would make my year, if I heard he had received a career ending injury.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Jul 27, 2017 8:13:32 GMT
I'm a bit skeptical to believe it because we all know what sky are like but if he's said this "To the fans I was let's say the hero and now I am zero. But that's football. The one thing I can say is, I am happy to be here and happy to play for West Ham," he deserves everything he gets on his return
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Post by metalhead on Jul 27, 2017 8:13:52 GMT
Blistering pace may not have been a huge part of his game, but I'm sure a year or so ago, he was the 9th faster attacker in the Premier League. So clearly, it IS a part of his game. What he does at West Ham will ultimately dictate whether the fee they paid was high or low. I think he will thrive in a more attacking set up. Who says West Ham are a more attacking setup than us? They will most likely lineup with 4-5-1, like us.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jul 27, 2017 8:22:41 GMT
West Ham are a bigger club. We are a small club with a big bank balance, financially secure (at the moment) and top gates of 28 to 30 thousand. That's it. We will never compete with the top 6 and will have ups and downs between relegation and top 7.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 27, 2017 8:23:32 GMT
I really dont give 2 fucks. Its football it happens.
Arnie was a great player for us and I dont get why everyone is crying.
Hes not english, hes not from Stoke - why would anyone expect him to stay for the LOVE OF THE CLUB or FANS?
I get the feeling this new hatred of Arnie is going to linger long on here.
Personally I wish him well and will follow his career and hope he continues to progress
Good Luck Marko
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 27, 2017 8:25:48 GMT
It would make my year, if I heard he had received a career ending injury. Actually, don't think it would bother him that much. He and his brother have made their fortunes and can retire in comfort, doing a bit of work for Austrian media for "pocket money". He is now a marked man by all Prem defenders and they will be working out how to neutralize him. Meanwhile the London Stadium crowd (I won't call them West Ham fans) will be expecting an awful lot from him and the rest of their "perfect team". When it doesn't quite happen they will need to blame someone; that starts with the manager, then it will be the big lump who is constantly moaning, gesticulating, and complaining when things don't go right for him.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Jul 27, 2017 8:26:15 GMT
Arnie had the good grace to sign a new contract so that rather than our having to accept a miserable ten mill for him last summer, here we are with £24 mill to add to our transfer kitty this summer. Just thought it was worth saying. For someone presumably born in 1955, that's incredibly naive.
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Post by scfcballers on Jul 27, 2017 8:26:47 GMT
I don't disagree with the comment about them being more ambitious than us at this moment in time.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2017 8:31:48 GMT
A year ago today🤔 Utter wanker😡
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Post by parsonage1955 on Jul 27, 2017 8:33:25 GMT
Niaive? In what way?
It's no great mystery why players wish to move clubs.
Often it's for more money. It might also be to get more game time, or to play at a higher level, or, for foreign players, London is a big draw
But my post was nothing to do with why players move. I was contrasting the position of the selling club when the contracted player has just a year to run on his contract with one who has three.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 27, 2017 8:41:15 GMT
Well having just watched the least inspiring interview in the history of mankind from Hughes on Sky it's very difficult to argue with anything Arnie has said. It's all well and good getting all outraged at this perceived 'insult' to the club but the fact of the matter is that both the actions and words that have come from SCFC this close season (and for a good while longer) suggest the organisation really doesn't have the stomach for it anymore. Not exactly very motivating is he, he could send a glass eye to sleep you can see where this general apathy is coming from no wonder we are sleep walking off the edge of the cliff.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 27, 2017 8:54:01 GMT
I really dont give 2 fucks. Its football it happens. Arnie was a great player for us and I dont get why everyone is crying. Hes not english, hes not from Stoke - why would anyone expect him to stay for the LOVE OF THE CLUB or FANS? I get the feeling this new hatred of Arnie is going to linger long on here. Personally I wish him well and will follow his career and hope he continues to progress Good Luck Marko Of course the Viennese Vagina will have no affinity with Stoke or its fans but you would have thought that having signed a lucrative contract less than 12 months earlier he would have felt at least some duty or professional pride to exit the club in the right way and not compromise the club in forcing the exit and continue to belittle it afterwards. He's basically shit on your breakfast and his now continuing to wipe his arse with your nose. Bollocks, to good luck to him. I hope it goes catastrophically wrong for the colossal cunt.
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Post by PB1863 on Jul 27, 2017 8:56:08 GMT
Last year I would never have expected Palace to be in a relegation scrap and only late wins against Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool kept them up. It's going to be an up and down year for all clubs out of the top 8 so you never know what the Hammers could do. All I know is a champion team will beat a team of champions
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Post by tcks on Jul 27, 2017 9:05:30 GMT
He just doesn't know when to keep his big fucking mouth shut. What a fucking cunt.
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Post by serpico on Jul 27, 2017 9:09:03 GMT
it's graham kavanagh all over again, lets hope he gets a similar welcoming when he returns
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Post by scfc64 on Jul 27, 2017 9:19:04 GMT
I would of, up to yesterday wished him well and thank you,players come and go, even though he signed a good deal last year. Sometimes though, when players say things, they do have very short memories on how they were treated at their previous club (and was treated well at Stoke City.)So really, the comments from our Chairman should of drawn a line under it, even the player should of seen that. To say these things,to me,just smacks desperation to vindicate the move. I'm trying to be unbiased, but it is a sideward step. Just be honest, it was money and London, you'd be respected more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 9:21:20 GMT
I'd retaliate like that after hearing Coates speak on the radio yesterday
Mainly because I'm childish too
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Post by Gods on Jul 27, 2017 9:21:36 GMT
I really dont give 2 fucks. Its football it happens. Arnie was a great player for us and I dont get why everyone is crying. Hes not english, hes not from Stoke - why would anyone expect him to stay for the LOVE OF THE CLUB or FANS? I get the feeling this new hatred of Arnie is going to linger long on here. Personally I wish him well and will follow his career and hope he continues to progress Good Luck Marko That's precisely where I am at. We got 3 great seasons out of Arnie and an eye watering £20 million pounds in profit. Contrast that with several other high profile signings for whom we simply pissed up the wall the money paid on their transfer fee and wages. Coates is belly-aching about the time wasted on the Arnie contract renewal but it was hardly wasted, it was the best 6 hours Carto and the company lawyer and accountant ever spent, without it we would have had to near enough give him away like we did Steven N'Zonzi. Coates knows its a market place, we play the same game too, he should stop moaning his wizened old bag off, get his finger out of his anus, and crack on with making sure we are set up for the new season.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 9:21:50 GMT
"Hero to zero" his words link I don't wish ill on anyone but I do hope that this snake knows what the real pain and career ending injury feels like the one he fained in pre season to put the final nail in the coffin. He is at the right club a snake that is run by vipers. I bet the cowered will fain an injury the week before he's due to come back to stoke because he is that gutless with a yellow streak down his back to go with his snake tattoo.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 27, 2017 9:28:52 GMT
I really dont give 2 fucks. Its football it happens. Arnie was a great player for us and I dont get why everyone is crying. Hes not english, hes not from Stoke - why would anyone expect him to stay for the LOVE OF THE CLUB or FANS? I get the feeling this new hatred of Arnie is going to linger long on here. Personally I wish him well and will follow his career and hope he continues to progress Good Luck Marko Of course the Viennese Vagina will have no affinity with Stoke or its fans but you would have thought that having signed a lucrative contract less than 12 months earlier he would have felt at least some duty or professional pride to exit the club in the right way and not compromise the club in forcing the exit and continue to belittle it afterwards. He's basically shit on your breakfast and his now continuing to wipe his arse with your nose. Bollocks, to good luck to him. I hope it goes catastrophically wrong for the colossal cunt. MEH, I just cant get riled up about this. I get all the reasons and people have rights to be pissed off if they want. I get annoyed by many things in football, but "player leaving for more money" is just par for the course I think football fans just need to have a hate figure. If this means the fixture with West Ham will create the BearPit atmosphere next season that is no bad thing. But yeah this whole episode was going to happen sooner or later for a club like us. I personally wont boo him, Im just grateful I got to watch him for 3 years in Stoke colours. I never really got the hatred for Graham Kavanagh either but thats just me I guess
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Post by PolPotter on Jul 27, 2017 9:45:00 GMT
I thought Arnie was an odd ball while he was at Stoke and I doubt that feeling will ever change. I am pleased he has gone. I think we got his best years and since he has made it financially I don't think he'll push himself as much and he's already an internatioal without much competition for his place. West Ham will not surprise everyone and push for Europe. They still have to settle in at home and they have introduced a lot of new players who will need time to gel. A blessing in disguise for me. We get rid of a spoilt child and West Ham's risk taking will give their manager sleepless nights. I think it will go tits up for them.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 27, 2017 9:47:54 GMT
I think he will thrive in a more attacking set up. Who says West Ham are a more attacking setup than us? They will most likely lineup with 4-5-1, like us. I meant based on last season. Our play was often ponderous, and the times I have seen them West Ham seem more open and adventurous. I might be wrong!
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Jul 27, 2017 9:47:55 GMT
I thought Arnie was an odd ball while he was at Stoke and I doubt that feeling will ever change. I am pleased he has gone. I think we got his best years and since he has made it financially I don't think he'll push himself as much and he's already an internatioal without much competition for his place. West Ham will not surprise everyone and push for Europe. They still have to settle in at home and they have introduced a lot of new players who will need time to gel. A blessing in disguise for me. We get rid of a spoilt child and West Ham's risk taking will give their manager sleepless nights. I think it will go tits up for them. I pray to God it goes tits up for them. If we could finish above Wet Spam this year i'd be ecstatic.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 27, 2017 10:00:54 GMT
I thought Arnie was an odd ball while he was at Stoke and I doubt that feeling will ever change. I am pleased he has gone. I think we got his best years and since he has made it financially I don't think he'll push himself as much and he's already an internatioal without much competition for his place. West Ham will not surprise everyone and push for Europe. They still have to settle in at home and they have introduced a lot of new players who will need time to gel. A blessing in disguise for me. We get rid of a spoilt child and West Ham's risk taking will give their manager sleepless nights. I think it will go tits up for them. I pray to God it goes tits up for them. If we could finish above Wet Spam this year i'd be ecstatic. Id even take 1 place above relegation with west ham going down
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Post by DentySCFC on Jul 27, 2017 10:10:17 GMT
Who says West Ham are a more attacking setup than us? They will most likely lineup with 4-5-1, like us. I meant based on last season. Our play was often ponderous, and the times I have seen them West Ham seem more open and adventurous. I might be wrong! They were as bad as us last season.
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