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Post by stokemark on Jul 23, 2017 18:27:02 GMT
I'll tell you what
'August' in the Stoke Calender isn't for the faint hearted !!
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 23, 2017 18:28:00 GMT
Pulis did well with those players, just like Hughes has with Arnie and Grant.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 18:28:24 GMT
I don't support any company though I support a football team. It's different. But you know this. Would you move to another company doing the same job for a 85% pay rise? There's nothing wrong with it, no, for arnie because he's got not vested interest in stoke city (apart from resurrecting his career and paying him massive amounts of money) I have. Stoke city are my team and if anyone publicly bad mouths them or wrongs them in any way then they're going to get shit. Aren't you pissed off that he's potentially screwed us out of money because of how he's acted? No doubt it'll be someone else's fault, because you're as transparent as the others.
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Post by stantheman on Jul 23, 2017 18:29:03 GMT
Jon has more class, respect, desire and determination in his left little toe than that Austrian twat has in his entire body. The only twat here is you and the other idiots writing those ridiculous comments about Marko. He brought the club a lot of money and has played well at Stoke. Don't write about respecct! You don't know what that means. Are you his Brother? He's come out with such a half arsed 'thank you' its embarrassing. Respect should be earned, not expected. We'll see how much respect he gets if he dares to wear a WHU shirt at our place, but that's highly unlikely to happen. He'll tweak his ego in training a few days before the match and be no where near the place.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 18:29:20 GMT
Pennant and etherington were very good players anyway, just had off field issues. They had issues and lost their way, Pulis resurrected their careers. This is why I said Pulis was the best for that, I don't think Hughes could do that as well as Tony. Did he stop Etherington gambling? But they were good players anyway.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 23, 2017 18:29:30 GMT
I dunna blame him reading this thread some of the stuff on here is hysterical. I understand people being pissed off, but I can also see why he would go for the money. How many people would turn down a massive increase in pay at a new firm if offered one? I have no problem whatsoever of someone moving for more money,but tell everyone that is the reason you are moving,not all the bullshit he has come out with.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 18:30:53 GMT
They had issues and lost their way, Pulis resurrected their careers. This is why I said Pulis was the best for that, I don't think Hughes could do that as well as Tony. Did he stop Etherington gambling? But they were good players anyway. They were good, but they weren't on peoples radar were they? Arnautovic was pretty well known and attracting interest from a few clubs, he came here and did well. Pulis brought in the sloppy seconds and turned them into hot property.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 23, 2017 18:31:10 GMT
Would you move to another company doing the same job for a 85% pay rise? There's nothing wrong with it, no, for arnie because he's got not vested interest in stoke city (apart from resurrecting his career and paying him massive amounts of money) I have. Stoke city are my team and if anyone publicly bad mouths them or wrongs them in any way then they're going to get shit. Aren't you pissed off that he's potentially screwed us out of money because of how he's acted? No doubt it'll be someone else's fault, because you're as transparent as the others. I'm disappointed how they have handled it yes, I'm just on about the greed nonsense. He hasn't screwed us out of anything, it's up to our crack team to negotiate the best deal. Transparent? you've lost me sonny.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 23, 2017 18:31:41 GMT
Statement made Want to say a massive thank you to Stoke City Football Club and all my fans who have supported me for the past 4years. You welcomed me and my family to England and this i will never forget. It was an honor beeing part of this amazing team. Wish you all the best in the future! #teamarna Hmm Arnie... Did you forget to mention the bit about Stoke saving your career after you were out on your arse in Germany, not to mention the huge contract extension you signed last year. Go fuck yourself. Prick Think this statement is to little to late and probably comes after he felt the feelings of stoke supporters on the net and this is his attempt not to have any repercussions when he comes back as I said to a west ham fan today hope you enjoy signing Judas the snake
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 23, 2017 18:32:10 GMT
Did he stop Etherington gambling? But they were good players anyway. They were good, but they weren't on peoples radar were they? Arnautovic was pretty well known and attracting interest from a few clubs, he came here and did well. Pulis brought in the sloppy seconds and turned them into hot property. Did he sell any of them for decent money?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 18:34:31 GMT
There's nothing wrong with it, no, for arnie because he's got not vested interest in stoke city (apart from resurrecting his career and paying him massive amounts of money) I have. Stoke city are my team and if anyone publicly bad mouths them or wrongs them in any way then they're going to get shit. Aren't you pissed off that he's potentially screwed us out of money because of how he's acted? No doubt it'll be someone else's fault, because you're as transparent as the others. I'm disappointed how they have handled it yes, I'm just on about the greed nonsense. He hasn't screwed us out of anything, it's up to our crack team to negotiate the best deal. Transparent? Â you've lost me sonny. So you're disappointed because they've not handled it right? Yeah? So what haven't they handled right? The fact they've lied about the reasons they're moving (for greed) and not what they've stated? Transparent. You've answered yourself in that very post.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 18:35:35 GMT
They were good, but they weren't on peoples radar were they? Arnautovic was pretty well known and attracting interest from a few clubs, he came here and did well. Pulis brought in the sloppy seconds and turned them into hot property. Did he sell any of them for decent money? It's not about that.... Look at Payet. Was a decent player, brought in by West Ham and he was able to develop his career and go on for a lot of money. Arnautovic was similar, already a decent player and on clubs radars, he chose us and now he's made a reputation and gone for good money whilst he's still young. Pennant and Etherington were almost looking like their careers had ended, but we gave them a life line. Arnautovic's career was only just kick-starting. If we didn't sign him he probably would've gone to West Ham anyway and done the exact same thing. Pennant and Etherington were revitalized.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 18:39:02 GMT
Did he stop Etherington gambling? But they were good players anyway. They were good, but they weren't on peoples radar were they? Arnautovic was pretty well known and attracting interest from a few clubs, he came here and did well. Pulis brought in the sloppy seconds and turned them into hot property. Take a look at their previous clubs, they were on plenty of radars. Their talent had nothing to with their fall, the off field issues did.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 18:40:12 GMT
They were good, but they weren't on peoples radar were they? Arnautovic was pretty well known and attracting interest from a few clubs, he came here and did well. Pulis brought in the sloppy seconds and turned them into hot property. Take a look at their previous clubs, they were on plenty of radars. Their talent had nothing to with their fall, the off field issues did. And nobody wanted them, except Pulis because he knew he could revitalize them. Which is...My point.
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Post by geoff321 on Jul 23, 2017 18:42:29 GMT
This is what Mark Hughes said when Arni signed:
" People will very quickly see what an outstanding talent he is. In terms of his power and pace, which is something we need in the squad, he ticks all the boxes. Technically he's excellent and I'm really looking forward to working with him. I think it's quite a coup to get him here."
Clearly Hughes thought he was a brilliant player before he signed, despite his career stalling slightly.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 18:45:50 GMT
Take a look at their previous clubs, they were on plenty of radars. Their talent had nothing to with their fall, the off field issues did. And nobody wanted them, except Pulis because he knew he could revitalize them. Which is...My point. Exactly the same as Arnie. Off field issues that led to him being suspended by his club (if i remember right)and them subsequently selling him to us for relative peanuts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 18:46:37 GMT
Statement made Want to say a massive thank you to Stoke City Football Club and all my fans who have supported me for the past 4years. You welcomed me and my family to England and this i will never forget. It was an honor beeing part of this amazing team. Wish you all the best in the future! #teamarna Rough translation: "Please don't boo me when I come back. Have a bit of sugar. Hope this is enough to stop it?" Conclusion - massive fail. Speak to Danny Rose. See you in December. Lot's of love, Stokies.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 23, 2017 18:47:29 GMT
I understand people being pissed off, but I can also see why he would go for the money. How many people would turn down a massive increase in pay at a new firm if offered one? I have no problem whatsoever of someone moving for more money,but tell everyone that is the reason you are moving,not all the bullshit he has come out with. When did you ever hear a player say they were moving for money , the answer is never .
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jul 23, 2017 18:48:10 GMT
Statement made Want to say a massive thank you to Stoke City Football Club and all my fans who have supported me for the past 4years. You welcomed me and my family to England and this i will never forget. It was an honor beeing part of this amazing team. Wish you all the best in the future! #teamarna Rough translation: "Please don't boo me when I come back. Have a bit of sugar. Hope this is enough to stop it?" Conclusion - massive fail. Speak to Danny Rose. See you in December. Lot's of love, Stokies. Epic fail. Slimey fuck !
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 18:48:18 GMT
And nobody wanted them, except Pulis because he knew he could revitalize them. Which is...My point. Exactly the same as Arnie. Off field issues that led to him being suspended by his club (if i remember right)and them subsequently selling him to us for relative peanuts. He established himself at Werder Bremen and numerous clubs were after him. It was nothing like Pennant or Etherington. Give Pulis credit where it's due. He was the king of revitalizing players.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 23, 2017 18:49:24 GMT
How did we not resurrect his career? He'd been a hot property in Holland, his big move to Italy went wrong, and things were going so well in Bremen for him that they sold him to us for absolute peanuts to relatively few tears being shed. Four years with us and he's in a position to move for £20-odd million and earn 100k a week. He's turned his career around here and we've helped. Nothing like what Tony did for other players though. Arnautovic was already young and a decent player. When Pennant came here I was livid. His career was on a downward trajectory. Hence him coming to us so cheaply. That's quite the comedown from playing for the European champions. Pulis was excellent at it no question, but Hughes and the club have done an excellent job in helping Arnie turn things round.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 18:51:14 GMT
Nothing like what Tony did for other players though. Arnautovic was already young and a decent player. When Pennant came here I was livid. His career was on a downward trajectory. Hence him coming to us so cheaply. That's quite the comedown from playing for the European champions. Pulis was excellent at it no question, but Hughes and the club have done an excellent job in helping Arnie turn things round. He was playing at Werder Bremen and he had established himself there. People act like his last club was Inter. He had already proven he had a lot of talent. People are making out like he had fallen to the same level as Etherington and Pennant? Laughable.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 18:54:28 GMT
Exactly the same as Arnie. Off field issues that led to him being suspended by his club (if i remember right)and them subsequently selling him to us for relative peanuts. He established himself at Werder Bremen and numerous clubs were after him. It was nothing like Pennant or Etherington. Give Pulis credit where it's due. He was the king of revitalizing players. He established himself, yeah as a bad boy and someone who spent more time on the front pages than he did on the back. I'll give Pulis credit for those 2 (and others) buts it's exactly the same as with Arnie (but obviously it's hughes isn't it? Laughable). If other teams were after him how come they didn't make the gamble of a pittance to buy him? Because he was perceived as damaged goods.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 18:56:55 GMT
He established himself at Werder Bremen and numerous clubs were after him. It was nothing like Pennant or Etherington. Give Pulis credit where it's due. He was the king of revitalizing players. He established himself, yeah as a bad boy and someone who spent more time on the front pages than he did on the back. I'll give Pulis credit for those 2 (and others) buts it's exactly the same as with Arnie (but obviously it's hughes isn't it?). If other teams were after him how come they didn't make the gamble of a pittance to buy him? Because he was perceived as damaged goods. It's like with Balotelli. Clubs know he has talent, but they don't want to waste their time trying to get it out of him. We all knew Arnautovic was good and the whole bad boy bollocks was a myth, he caused no trouble anywhere he even said himself it's all rumours because he's friends with Mario. I praise Pulis more for bringing the best out of players, because Arnautovic already was miles better than Pennant and Etherington in terms of talent. Pulis made them into almost new players.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2017 19:05:50 GMT
He established himself, yeah as a bad boy and someone who spent more time on the front pages than he did on the back. I'll give Pulis credit for those 2 (and others) buts it's exactly the same as with Arnie (but obviously it's hughes isn't it?). If other teams were after him how come they didn't make the gamble of a pittance to buy him? Because he was perceived as damaged goods. It's like with Balotelli. Clubs know he has talent, but they don't want to waste their time trying to get it out of him. We all knew Arnautovic was good and the whole bad boy bollocks was a myth, he caused no trouble anywhere he even said himself it's all rumours because he's friends with Mario. I praise Pulis more for bringing the best out of players, because Arnautovic already was miles better than Pennant and Etherington in terms of talent. Pulis made them into almost new players. Myth? Apart from him getting suspended by his club m.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-potters-deadline-day-recruits/story-19743749-detail/story.htmlm.goal.com/s/en/news/15/german-football/2013/04/26/3933645/bremen-suspend-arnautovic-eliaI've been taken in haven't I?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 23, 2017 19:08:06 GMT
His career was on a downward trajectory. Hence him coming to us so cheaply. That's quite the comedown from playing for the European champions. Pulis was excellent at it no question, but Hughes and the club have done an excellent job in helping Arnie turn things round. He was playing at Werder Bremen and he had established himself there. People act like his last club was Inter. He had already proven he had a lot of talent. People are making out like he had fallen to the same level as Etherington and Pennant? Laughable. No, you're using that as a straw man argument. There was never any question about Etherington or Pennant's talent either. If Arnie was smashing it in Bremen, why did we get him for less than three million quid? He was decidedly hit and miss there, to put it kindly. Hughes gambled that the Arnie who ripped it up for Twente could be coaxed out.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 23, 2017 19:25:51 GMT
Talking about the cunt on Talksport transfer tavern now
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 23, 2017 19:38:24 GMT
Talking about the cunt on Talksport transfer tavern now How did it go? My guess would be something like: Presenter: We'll be talking about Arnautovic after the ads so stay tuned. 10 mins of adverts Presenter: so Arnautovic has signed for West Ham Expert (ex London based footballer): yes he has. He should do quite well and West Ham are a big club because they're from London. Presenter: great thanks, now more ads 10 more minutes of ads
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 23, 2017 19:38:33 GMT
Players get suspended. Players don't go into exile and then back to the Premier League where they take us on to FA cup finals. Unless they were managed by Pulis.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 23, 2017 19:38:56 GMT
He was playing at Werder Bremen and he had established himself there. People act like his last club was Inter. He had already proven he had a lot of talent. People are making out like he had fallen to the same level as Etherington and Pennant? Laughable. No, you're using that as a straw man argument. There was never any question about Etherington or Pennant's talent either. If Arnie was smashing it in Bremen, why did we get him for less than three million quid? He was decidedly hit and miss there, to put it kindly. Hughes gambled that the Arnie who ripped it up for Twente could be coaxed out. My brother in law is a Werder Bremen fan. When we signed Arnie he didn't have much good to say about him to be fair and told me not to expect much from him on the pitch but lots of news of him getting in trouble off it. We definitely got more than our money's worth and that has to be down at least in part to good man management. For Arnie to not even properly acknowledge or thank the manager and club is par for the course from him, sadly.
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