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Post by slicko on Jul 20, 2017 6:57:13 GMT
Without change we cannot hope to change.
In an attempt to break the mid-table stagnation, I would guess that Sparky sees these changes as an opportunity to change direction.
Always a gamble, this could be the high stakes buying opportunity that Coates could not provide.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 20, 2017 8:58:32 GMT
Taking its time isn't it. I do hope Margo and Danielle are fast discovering in their negotiations with the Weapons of Ass Destruction that the grass isn't as green as they hoped.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 20, 2017 9:03:00 GMT
08:51 ARNAUTOVIC MOVE NEARS
Sky sources: Stoke City winger Marko Arnautovic will have a West Ham medical and discuss personal terms in the coming days.
It is hoped a deal can be completed in time for him to fly out for the second part of their pre season tour to Germany on Monday.
West Ham are currently in Austria.
Surely they agreed terms when they tapped him up? I wonder if his career ending knee injury in the first friendly game will mean he fails a medical
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 20, 2017 9:06:44 GMT
08:51 ARNAUTOVIC MOVE NEARS Sky sources: Stoke City winger Marko Arnautovic will have a West Ham medical and discuss personal terms in the coming days. It is hoped a deal can be completed in time for him to fly out for the second part of their pre season tour to Germany on Monday. West Ham are currently in Austria. Surely they agreed terms when they tapped him up? I wonder if his career ending knee injury in the first friendly game will mean he fails a medical Interesting I could see them offering less than he wants and him coming back with the tail between his legs if true.
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Post by mrred on Jul 20, 2017 9:10:50 GMT
I'll be booing the cunt either way.
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2017 9:13:17 GMT
Takes ages this transfer malarkey.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 20, 2017 9:20:53 GMT
Takes ages this transfer malarkey. I thought other clubs managed to wrap up transfers in about half an hour. Looks like Villa and Wet Spam are as wank as us.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 20, 2017 9:26:26 GMT
Taking its time isn't it. I do hope Margo and Danielle are fast discovering in their negotiations with the Weapons of Ass Destruction that the grass isn't as green as they hoped.
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Post by britvic72 on Jul 20, 2017 9:37:07 GMT
08:51 ARNAUTOVIC MOVE NEARS Sky sources: Stoke City winger Marko Arnautovic will have a West Ham medical and discuss personal terms in the coming days. It is hoped a deal can be completed in time for him to fly out for the second part of their pre season tour to Germany on Monday. West Ham are currently in Austria. Surely they agreed terms when they tapped him up? I wonder if his career ending knee injury in the first friendly game will mean he fails a medical They're unlikely to agree terms that quick or it would be obvious discussions had gone on already. You never know though as I also wouldn't trust them not to try and get more than already agreed out of the payday!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 9:38:58 GMT
I wonder if Arnautovic's brother is trying to drum up other interest in the background now we've agreed to sell? I imagine they're a little disappointed that only one mid table club have come up with the cash so far.....
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 20, 2017 9:43:11 GMT
It beggars belief that WHU have not agreed terms with him.
If true, Arnie and his brother now have them over a barrel as they are unlikely to want to lose face and fail to sign him.
He couldn't get enough out of Everton last summer, maybe history will repeat itself, but he has done a lot to foul his own nest at Stoke and with the Stoke fans, so staying at Stoke seems improbable.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2017 9:44:27 GMT
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Post by britvic72 on Jul 20, 2017 9:45:34 GMT
Clearing his locker! Don't forget to leave our beloved kit behind. It'll need a good washing mind 😘
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Post by britvic72 on Jul 20, 2017 9:46:53 GMT
Looks like just associate to me.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 20, 2017 9:54:11 GMT
I wonder if Arnautovic's brother is trying to drum up other interest in the background now we've agreed to sell? I imagine they're a little disappointed that only one mid table club have come up with the cash so far..... And also he's got hardly any media attention. Bet he was expecting sky sports news vans outside his house all day and night. Even the other day on talksport the day the fee was agreed there was nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 10:00:24 GMT
You would have thought the finances were all done and dusted on the quiet, before agreeing the fee, hence the transfer request?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 20, 2017 10:05:41 GMT
Didn't think snakes wore boots?
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 20, 2017 10:07:32 GMT
Didn't think snakes wore boots?
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Post by stokemark on Jul 20, 2017 10:14:12 GMT
Without change we cannot hope to change. In an attempt to break the mid-table stagnation, I would guess that Sparky sees these changes as an opportunity to change direction. Always a gamble, this could be the high stakes buying opportunity that Coates could not provide. Selling our best players will go a long way towards 'breaking the mid-table stagnation'
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2017 10:16:44 GMT
I think I more want to hear that Arnautovic has signed for West Ham than that Zouma or Bruno have signed for us. Hearing that it's fallen through and West Ham have pulled out for some reason would feel like pretty devastating news now. I think I'll give a little punch in the air when it's announced that he's finally signed for them.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 20, 2017 10:26:19 GMT
I think I more want to hear that Arnautovic has signed for West Ham than that Zouma or Bruno have signed for us. Hearing that it's fallen through and West Ham have pulled out for some reason would feel like pretty devastating news now. I think I'll give a little punch in the air when it's announced that he's finally signed for them. Oh absolutely we need shot ASAP, I just like to think they both have a sinking feeling as they sit negotiating with the sludge and slime of a Chadwell Heath Office that things in 'lil old Stoke weren't that bad!
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Post by slicko on Jul 20, 2017 10:32:43 GMT
Without change we cannot hope to change. In an attempt to break the mid-table stagnation, I would guess that Sparky sees these changes as an opportunity to change direction. Always a gamble, this could be the high stakes buying opportunity that Coates could not provide. Selling our best players will go a long way towards 'breaking the mid-table stagnation' Read, digest and respond to the whole statement Mark, not just a random sentence out of context. For 24 million, there are many players with Arnie's best qualities, some of whom do not possess Arnie's worst. Good as he is, he is not unique.
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 20, 2017 10:34:03 GMT
I think I more want to hear that Arnautovic has signed for West Ham than that Zouma or Bruno have signed for us. Hearing that it's fallen through and West Ham have pulled out for some reason would feel like pretty devastating news now. I think I'll give a little punch in the air when it's announced that he's finally signed for them. Oh absolutely we need shot ASAP, I just like to think they both have a sinking feeling as they sit negotiating with the sludge and slime of a Chadwell Heath Office that things in 'lil old Stoke weren't that bad! I know the area around Chadwell heath pretty well having spent some time in Chigwell/Loughton. It really is an absolute shithole and a breeding ground for all sorts of low life. Just driving through the redbridge area used to depress me. Mind you Chigwell was rather nice.
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Post by skelman on Jul 20, 2017 11:11:35 GMT
Great opportunity for Ramadan, who will play far more for 'the team' If he get's the chance this season Ramadan will have been an excellent succession plan. I think he will be given the starts, he's less in need of a polish, less of a rough diamond than Arnie was when he first arrived. Hughes took risks and persisted with him. Sure it'll be the same with Sobhi. And think he has the potential to play wing back. Looking forward to seeing him this season, got a few tricks up his sleeve, and perhaps less prone to anonymous games. Enjoy him while I can, 2/3 season turnaround. I think he'll answer the critics who say we don't have any wing backs at the club When he played last season he contributed more defensively than either Shaq or Arnautovic Really think he'll step up and blossom this year with Arnautovic gone Ramadan has the making of a cracking wing back
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Post by nott1 on Jul 20, 2017 11:19:51 GMT
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 20, 2017 11:23:11 GMT
£20m for Wilshere? They'll spend that again in medical fees.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 20, 2017 11:25:18 GMT
Fair point, but Stein was a different era compared to today's mega greed mentality surely? I know temptation is relative but even so. Since the abolition of the minimum wage footballers have been called greedy. There was nearly a civil war when Keegan went to Hamburg and that was over 40 years ago. They are no more greedy now than they were then.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 20, 2017 11:45:47 GMT
£20m for Wilshere? They'll spend that again in medical fees. They are welcome to both of them tbh.
Albeit, given our 'less than guaranteed' goal potential, I wouldn't mind a certain Mexican FWD that they are very near to grabbing.
Wonder what the deal will be in terms of wages and if we would even be in the ball park?
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Post by TinkerT on Jul 20, 2017 11:56:36 GMT
They've been in talks with wilshere for a few weeks.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2017 12:04:15 GMT
If he get's the chance this season Ramadan will have been an excellent succession plan. I think he will be given the starts, he's less in need of a polish, less of a rough diamond than Arnie was when he first arrived. Hughes took risks and persisted with him. Sure it'll be the same with Sobhi. And think he has the potential to play wing back. Looking forward to seeing him this season, got a few tricks up his sleeve, and perhaps less prone to anonymous games. Enjoy him while I can, 2/3 season turnaround. I think he'll answer the critics who say we don't have any wing backs at the club When he played last season he contributed more defensively than either Shaq or Arnautovic Really think he'll step up and blossom this year with Arnautovic gone Ramadan has the making of a cracking wing back
Really, playing on the left?
Surely you want your wing back to be left footed, if he's right footed, how is he going to put a tackle in on the right winger/fullback he's attempting to tackle?
Surely you want your left wing back to be able to go on the outside of the full back when going forward, so he can whip a cross into the box.
Ramadan is a right footed inverted winger.
Yes he tracks back well from that position but tracking back to help out the existing (and that's the important bit) fullback/wing back is a completely different proposition to actually being that player.
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