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Post by 36dd on Jul 19, 2017 11:03:59 GMT
I did say to my 7yr old to hold off on the name & number before September.... he's gutted and doesn't fully understand why Arnie is going? I keep saying it's all because of Money (well that's polite way to say it) 😊
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Post by nott1 on Jul 19, 2017 11:11:12 GMT
Probably lives in Barking, lecturing us Northeners on how good the big smoke is when actually going into Central London twice a year. How would he know that Stoke on Trent is a city when the world ends at Ripple Road on the A13.....? Ha ha I'm from Manchester born and bred and from close to Prestwich actually. Been to Stoke plenty of times. Seems your assumption was miles off... Would never want to live in London but the fact remains that London, Mcr and Liverpool are the football hubs in the U.K. and long term we aspire to compete for top 6. It will take time I've always admitted that but it's a realistic ambition now we have a 60K stadium, the second highest number of season ticket holders in England and are the 7th richest club in England in terms of revenue even before the stadium is factored in. Ah....a gloryhunter of a mid table club without a stadium of their own!
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Post by Davef on Jul 19, 2017 11:12:37 GMT
I did say to my 7yr old to hold off on the name & number before September.... he's gutted and doesn't fully understand why Arnie is going? I keep saying it's all because of Money (well that's polite way to say it) 😊 Just how I felt as a nine year old in 1976 when we sold Jimmy Greenhoff. It was all about money back then, only Jimmy didn't want to leave Stoke and was as upset as the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:14:50 GMT
It's a bummer, but what I really liked about Arnie was his unpredictability and that is something Sobhi has in spades.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:16:10 GMT
Another example from one of the dildo brothers how money doesn't buy you class. Welcome aboard Arnie.....
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 19, 2017 11:17:34 GMT
Footballers. They come and go. And that's that. If he fancies his chances elsewhere sod him BUT why didn't he say in May?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:26:22 GMT
Another example from one of the dildo brothers how money doesn't buy you class. Welcome aboard Arnie..... Just read this whilst eating my lunch. Nearly choked on my sandwich. What a whopper Sullivan is. How to demoralise a current squad member. What happens if Hart gets injured now?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:28:29 GMT
Another example from one of the dildo brothers how money doesn't buy you class. Welcome aboard Arnie..... Just read this whilst eating my lunch. Nearly choked on my sandwich. What a whopper Sullivan is. How to demoralise a current squad member. What happens if Hart gets injured now? The guys a grade A tool. And as for his dress sense, who told him "mincing Bolshevik" was a good look?
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 19, 2017 11:28:46 GMT
16th December will be solid cauldron of hate. I bet the money grabbing cock weasel has a little niggle that day
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Post by liamo on Jul 19, 2017 11:31:40 GMT
That's why i love the Coates family, Peter only speaks up when he's got something to say and most the time he's speaking as a fan
Imagine pretty much losing the No.1 keeper spot to a new signing and then one of the owners says that on Twitter
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Post by Davef on Jul 19, 2017 11:35:54 GMT
16th December will be solid cauldron of hate. I bet the money grabbing cock weasel has a little niggle that day Either that he'll somehow, conveniently, be shown a fifth yellow card the week before...
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 19, 2017 11:39:05 GMT
16th December will be solid cauldron of hate. I bet the money grabbing cock weasel has a little niggle that day Either that he'll somehow, conveniently, be shown a fifth yellow card the week before... Perhaps him and his fucking leach of a brother could be official guests of honour that day and be paraded round the pitch.
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Post by philb on Jul 19, 2017 11:39:53 GMT
Footballers. They come and go. And that's that. If he fancies his chances elsewhere sod him BUT why didn't he say in May? Because he hadn't been tapped up then.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jul 19, 2017 11:41:32 GMT
Just read this whilst eating my lunch. Nearly choked on my sandwich. What a whopper Sullivan is. How to demoralise a current squad member. What happens if Hart gets injured now? The guys a grade A tool. And as for his dress sense, who told him "mincing Bolshevik" was a good look? I was thinking there are some massive egos at that club from the top down and Hart always seems to me to have an air of arrogance as well, I was astounded when I heard he was basically getting £175,000 a week! Then I thought how long before Arnie and his bro are moaning he should be earning nearer that and the egos start clashing in the dressing room, there will be plenty at WH who think they are the top dog what's the betting in 12 months Arnie is either asking for a pay rise or a move to a more 'ambitious' club!!!!
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 19, 2017 11:43:17 GMT
Just read this whilst eating my lunch. Nearly choked on my sandwich. What a whopper Sullivan is. How to demoralise a current squad member. What happens if Hart gets injured now? The guys a grade A tool. And as for his dress sense, who told him "mincing Bolshevik" was a good look? I'd argue Adrian has been the better player over the past few seasons. Randolph is not a bad keeper either. I can't see why they've signed him at all.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 19, 2017 11:50:01 GMT
Footballers. They come and go. And that's that. If he fancies his chances elsewhere sod him BUT why didn't he say in May? Because he hadn't been tapped up then. Yeah true.
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Post by werrington on Jul 19, 2017 11:56:10 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off
But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ?
I'm just throwing it out there
We can't have it both ways
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:59:27 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ? We can't have it both ways It's a good point wezza. And we all know the answer, everyone of us is a fucking great hypocrite when it comes to our own football club.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 19, 2017 12:04:18 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ? I'm just throwing it out there We can't have it both ways Steino?
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Post by philb on Jul 19, 2017 12:04:28 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ? We can't have it both ways It's a good point wezza. And we all know the answer, everyone of us is a fucking great hypocrite when it comes to our own football club. Correct. Nothing else matters.....
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 19, 2017 12:05:28 GMT
Yeah cause 80k per week / 4 million per year is really tough to get by on It's not tough to get by on, but clearly it's better for him to get more money. How many people can honestly say they wouldn't change their employers if they can get paid more money for doing the same job? All of us would. Its just the "ambition" comment, signing a 4 year contract last year and us taking in a lost soul that grates with some which is understandable. Personally I'm happy he was a Stokie for a while and chipped in with goals and assists. Sell him on for a big profit and Sobhi steps up. We move on.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 19, 2017 12:09:46 GMT
He's gone for a better deal and a fresh challenge, that does not make him a villain, and Stoke always had the option to refuse the offer and try to keep him at the club. There are several other Stoke players, on the basis they perform well, who could become targets for other clubs and hopefully the Stoke Board will not become a soft touch when it comes to negotiations. You can understand why people are unhappy with him though? I know loyalty in football is a two-way street that too much is made of, but we've enabled him to turn a faltering career around and at the first opportunity he has stuck two fingers up and engineered a move purely for a few more quid.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 19, 2017 12:12:04 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ? I'm just throwing it out there We can't have it both ways The difference Wez, with Walters and Steino, is that both were undisputably bettering themselves with the move they were making. It doesn't excuse the tantrums from any of them but the especially galling thing for me with the move is the grubby eagerness to go to the first club that'll pay him a few extra quid after we turned his career around.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 19, 2017 12:29:22 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ? I'm just throwing it out there We can't have it both ways Steino? Fair point, but Stein was a different era compared to today's mega greed mentality surely? I know temptation is relative but even so.
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 19, 2017 12:35:46 GMT
Fair point, but Stein was a different era compared to today's mega greed mentality surely? I know temptation is relative but even so. Walters moved up the leagues. Arnie's barely moved a position in the same league.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 13:04:02 GMT
Has the transfer officially been confirmed yet?
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Post by geoff321 on Jul 19, 2017 13:13:39 GMT
He's gone for a better deal and a fresh challenge, that does not make him a villain, and Stoke always had the option to refuse the offer and try to keep him at the club. There are several other Stoke players, on the basis they perform well, who could become targets for other clubs and hopefully the Stoke Board will not become a soft touch when it comes to negotiations. You can understand why people are unhappy with him though? I know loyalty in football is a two-way street that too much is made of, but we've enabled him to turn a faltering career around and at the first opportunity he has stuck two fingers up and engineered a move purely for a few more quid. I understand the frustration but he's played here for 4 years and at 28 he may feel it's time for a fresh start. I don't personally think West Ham will do that well next season under their present manager, but I do think as we speak they have a stronger squad than Stoke and that might be what Arnie thinks.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 19, 2017 13:15:12 GMT
I'm not defending Arnie, far from it fuck him off But why is Walters lorded on here when he acted in a very similar manner with Ipswich to force through his move here ? I'm just throwing it out there We can't have it both ways True, but at least Walters tried to engineer a move to a club in a higher division and a clear upwards step in his career. I think what's pissing most fans off about this deal is that we don't see any footballing benefit to the transfer at all. It's a sideways step to earn even more money despite negotiating a massive new deal only twelve months ago.
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Post by Davef on Jul 19, 2017 13:18:39 GMT
Fair point, but Stein was a different era compared to today's mega greed mentality surely? I know temptation is relative but even so. Steino was on a pittance back then, even by the standards of players' pay in those days. He was reputed to have been on less than Graham Harbey. Not in the slightest bit comparable to Marko Arnautorich.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 13:21:40 GMT
You can understand why people are unhappy with him though? I know loyalty in football is a two-way street that too much is made of, but we've enabled him to turn a faltering career around and at the first opportunity he has stuck two fingers up and engineered a move purely for a few more quid. I understand the frustration but he's played here for 4 years and at 28 he may feel it's time for a fresh start. I don't personally think West Ham will do that well next season under their present manager, but I do think as we speak they have a stronger squad than Stoke and that might be what Arnie thinks. You're very naive if you think it was a "fresh start" Arnautovic was after....
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