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Post by Northy on Dec 1, 2020 8:42:43 GMT
Mairead Philpott has been released from prison after serving less than half her 17-year sentence for killing her six children in a fire.
The 38-year-old, who killed her six children after burning down the family home in Derby in 2012, was 'delighted' at being given her earliest possible release date.
She was taken from HMP Send in Surrey to a halfway-house yesterday, after just eight-and-a-half years behind bars, The Sun reported.
News of her imminent release was previously slammed by the Centre For Crime Prevention think-tank, which said: 'This is not justice.'
Philpott, along with husband Mick and friend Paul Mosley, burnt down the family's three-bedroom council house in 2012 in a bid to get a bigger home.
But the couple's six children - Duwayne, 13, Jade, 10, John, nine, Jack, seven, Jesse, six, and Jayden, five - died from smoke inhalation as a result of the blaze.
The taxpayer will cover thousands of pounds worth of costs for Philpott to stay in a hostel with a new identity. a pity it doesn't get put to a taxpayers vote |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 1, 2020 9:41:42 GMT
Yours (Widdicombe's) is a perfectly valid point, and one that has to be a factor as unpalatable the case is. Was she too a victim of the evil Philpott or was she totally complicit, that is the judgement call? We can't lock everyone up for life and throw away the key, we have to believe that certain people (not all) can be rehabilitated don't we? Prison without rehabilitation is a very dangerous route to go down. Now I've not spent any time in prison observing this women, so have no idea how she has behaved, the levels of remorse she has shown and her desire to be rehabilitated, so I guess it's more a general point. And I'm fully expecting to receive the usual "libtard, tree hugger, woke, PC" responses, but I'm merely playing devils advocate here....... |
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Post by flea79 on Dec 1, 2020 10:06:30 GMT
Mairead Philpott has been released from prison after serving less than half her 17-year sentence for killing her six children in a fire.
The 38-year-old, who killed her six children after burning down the family home in Derby in 2012, was 'delighted' at being given her earliest possible release date.
She was taken from HMP Send in Surrey to a halfway-house yesterday, after just eight-and-a-half years behind bars, The Sun reported.
News of her imminent release was previously slammed by the Centre For Crime Prevention think-tank, which said: 'This is not justice.'
Philpott, along with husband Mick and friend Paul Mosley, burnt down the family's three-bedroom council house in 2012 in a bid to get a bigger home.
But the couple's six children - Duwayne, 13, Jade, 10, John, nine, Jack, seven, Jesse, six, and Jayden, five - died from smoke inhalation as a result of the blaze.
The taxpayer will cover thousands of pounds worth of costs for Philpott to stay in a hostel with a new identity. a pity it doesn't get put to a taxpayers vote it never ends well when we have a vote in this country, whichever side loses spits feathers for years about it and tries to subvert the democratic process that has taken place... |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 1, 2020 13:52:40 GMT
Yours (Widdicombe's) is a perfectly valid point, and one that has to be a factor as unpalatable the case is.Ā Was she too a victim of the evil Philpott or was she totally complicit, that is the judgement call? We can't lock everyone up for life and throw away the key, we have to believe that certain people (not all) can be rehabilitated don't we?Ā Prison without rehabilitation is a very dangerous route to go down. Now I've not spent any time in prison observing this women, so have no idea how she has behaved, the levels of remorse she has shown and her desire to be rehabilitated, so I guess it's more a general point.Ā And I'm fully expecting to receive the usual "libtard, tree hugger, woke, PC" responses, but I'm merely playing devils advocate here....... I agree with you Prestwich..... Was she too a victim of the evil Philpott or was she totally complicit, that is the judgement call? A very difficult one. I think it must be/ is easy for someone to be trapped and manipulated in a relationship or otherwise. If she was aware of " the plan" to set fire to the house, with or without her children in there, I believe that most of us would think that at that point her ability and responsibility to break free should ( have) come into play. I don't suppose that she is likely to commit the same/ similar offence. She has been punished, some would say not enough. I would not have thought that she was a danger to anyone ( although like you I don't know the circumstances). Whilst I was in the Police I have met people who have intentionally committed crimes to get back into prison because they consider it to be the best lifestyle available to them. I did visit one yong lad in prison who was definitely a victim of circumstance a definite miscarriage of justice in my opinion. He was " with ( older) others" who decided to break in somewhere late at night. Imitation ( a toy) firearms were involved. Sheer stupidity , decided on impulseclate at night. He got quite a big sentence, not even in a Young offender's place. It was totally shocking and unbelievable for him and his family. Anyway he has been out for over 20 years , a family man, hard worker....Knowing the circumstances I don't even think it is enough to say " He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time".... Justice isn't always just. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 1, 2020 14:08:13 GMT
Yours (Widdicombe's) is a perfectly valid point, and one that has to be a factor as unpalatable the case is. Was she too a victim of the evil Philpott or was she totally complicit, that is the judgement call? We can't lock everyone up for life and throw away the key, we have to believe that certain people (not all) can be rehabilitated don't we? Prison without rehabilitation is a very dangerous route to go down. Now I've not spent any time in prison observing this women, so have no idea how she has behaved, the levels of remorse she has shown and her desire to be rehabilitated, so I guess it's more a general point. And I'm fully expecting to receive the usual "libtard, tree hugger, woke, PC" responses, but I'm merely playing devils advocate here....... I agree with you Prestwich..... Was she too a victim of the evil Philpott or was she totally complicit, that is the judgement call? A very difficult one. I think it must be/ is easy for someone to be trapped and manipulated in a relationship or otherwise. If she was aware of " the plan" to set fire to the house, with or without her children in there, I believe that most of us would think that at that point her ability and responsibility to break free should ( have) come into play. I don't suppose that she is likely to commit the same/ similar offence. She has been punished, some would say not enough. I would not have thought that she was a danger to anyone ( although like you I don't know the circumstances). Whilst I was in the Police I have met people who have intentionally committed crimes to get back into prison because they consider it to be the best lifestyle available to them.
I did visit one yong lad in prison who was definitely a victim of circumstance a definite miscarriage of justice in my opinion. He was " with ( older) others" who decided to break in somewhere late at night. Imitation ( a toy) firearms were involved. Sheer stupidity , decided on impulseclate at night. He got quite a big sentence, not even in a Young offender's place. It was totally shocking and unbelievable for him and his family.
Anyway he has been out for over 20 years , a family man, hard worker....Knowing the circumstances I don't even think it is enough to say " He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time"....
Justice isn't always just.As a society we have to look to the Scandinavian prison system rather than America where they put people into giant warehouses and forget about them. Some people are beyond redemption and the strictest possible sentence should be applied, but the carrot of rehabilitation make people come back from the brink from the bleakest of situations. I've seen it and you will have definitely have seen it in your previous role. Long term not only is it better for society it's a damn sight cheaper as well..... |
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Phillpots
Dec 1, 2020 14:53:51 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 1, 2020 14:53:51 GMT
I agree with you Prestwich..... Was she too a victim of the evil Philpott or was she totally complicit, that is the judgement call? A very difficult one. I think it must be/ is easy for someone to be trapped and manipulated in a relationship or otherwise. If she was aware of " the plan" to set fire to the house, with or without her children in there, I believe that most of us would think that at that point her ability and responsibility to break free should ( have) come into play. I don't suppose that she is likely to commit the same/ similar offence. She has been punished, some would say not enough. I would not have thought that she was a danger to anyone ( although like you I don't know the circumstances). Whilst I was in the Police I have met people who have intentionally committed crimes to get back into prison because they consider it to be the best lifestyle available to them.
I did visit one yong lad in prison who was definitely a victim of circumstance a definite miscarriage of justice in my opinion. He was " with ( older) others" who decided to break in somewhere late at night. Imitation ( a toy) firearms were involved. Sheer stupidity , decided on impulseclate at night. He got quite a big sentence, not even in a Young offender's place. It was totally shocking and unbelievable for him and his family.
Anyway he has been out for over 20 years , a family man, hard worker....Knowing the circumstances I don't even think it is enough to say " He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time"....
Justice isn't always just.As a society we have to look to the Scandinavian prison system rather than America where they put people into giant warehouses and forget about them.Ā Some people are beyond redemption and the strictest possible sentence should be applied, but the carrot of rehabilitation make people come back from the brink from the bleakest of situations.Ā I've seen it and you will have definitely have seen it in your previous role.Ā Long term not only is it better for society it's a damn sight cheaper as well..... I guess the difficulties come when trying to give another chance fir someone who already has a string of convictions and also someone whose ( violent) crime is do serious that " public opinion " ssys' why should they be given another chance, they don't deserve one" ...the first responsibility of the legal system is to protect the public. I think one of the most difficult offences to deal with is stalking, in the sense that very often real intervention doesn't take place until it is too late. www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a24847028/shana-grice-stalked-murdered-boyfriend-police-fined/ |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 11, 2022 11:28:34 GMT
10 years to the day that the murdering scumbags did what they did and yet 2 of them are free to do what they want to doš”
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May 11, 2022 14:39:53 GMT
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Post by salopstick on May 11, 2022 14:39:53 GMT
Absolute cunts all three of them. Bet they donāt even care
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Nov 15, 2023 12:46:07 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 15, 2023 12:46:07 GMT
This scumbag is back amongst usš”
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Nov 15, 2023 13:07:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 13:07:35 GMT
This scumbag is back amongst usš” Got to clear space for the real dangers to society: protestors. I donāt know why heās no longer a ādanger to societyā. Maybe the parole board members can have him over to baby sit their children? |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 15, 2023 13:48:26 GMT
10 years have flown. Give it 5 or so years years and the cunt phillpott will be out. Life sentances for manslaughter are rare and 15-17 years will be deemed enough
unfortunately
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