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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 27, 2018 10:46:49 GMT
Fucking pathetic, isn't it? Maybe we should start one of those Channel 5 ads for Jezza? "Just £3 a month could buy Jeremy a set of balls". It's not that complicated,is it? The government is not doing what it promised it would. It's inexcusable. It’s absolutely no point in buying corbyn a set of balls he’d still have to ask McDonnells permission to use them I wonder what would happen if Jezza changed his tune, again, and backed Brexit? Would it be political suicide, or could he get elected on that basis? I reckon Sheiky would love it if Jezza went back to his roots.  |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 27, 2018 10:50:47 GMT
It’s absolutely no point in buying corbyn a set of balls he’d still have to ask McDonnells permission to use them I wonder what would happen if Jezza changed his tune, again, and backed Brexit? Would it be political suicide, or could he get elected on that basis? I reckon Sheiky would love it if Jezza went back to his roots. He'd get elected |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 27, 2018 10:54:51 GMT
I wonder what would happen if Jezza changed his tune, again, and backed Brexit? Would it be political suicide, or could he get elected on that basis? I reckon Sheiky would love it if Jezza went back to his roots. He'd get elected I think he'd have a serious chance. He'd be playing the principle card, and win back some disenchanted former Labour voters. Whether that would be enough to hold off Momentum and others is the question, I suppose? Could he win some swing voters, or even Tories who want a change? Oh, for a party leader with some courage! |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 27, 2018 10:56:11 GMT
I reckon Sheiky would love it if Jezza went back to his roots. The Sheikhster voted for Brexit 100%, he just can't come out & say it 'cos he knows the rest of the tolerant army of Jezza followers would be out for his blood. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 27, 2018 11:03:31 GMT
I reckon Sheiky would love it if Jezza went back to his roots. The Sheikhster voted for Brexit 100%, he just can't come out & say it 'cos he knows the rest of the tolerant army of Jezza followers would be out for his blood. And if Jezza has any faith in his economic and social policies, why does he need the EU comfort blanket? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 27, 2018 11:22:28 GMT
I see the pathetic excuse of a PM has now called for a Brexit TV debate. Where was the coward when she called her cynical General Election? And what a great debate it'll be. A woman who is 100% pro-Remain arguing the case for Brexit, against a bloke who is 100% pro-Brexit arguing the case for Remaining. EDIT : And what's the betting Theresa doesn't argue for a proper Brexit, just for her load of wank deal. And Jezza will bang the drum for a second referendum & for Remain. The stitch-up is nearly complete! There's no such thing as "proper" Brexit. There is simply Brexit. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 27, 2018 11:52:01 GMT
Live stream from the latest ERG meeting:
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Post by yeokel on Nov 27, 2018 11:59:44 GMT
Now come on Oggy there are plenty of trading blocs with free trade agreements, NAFTA for one the USA of course are having to spend two years negotiating leaving this oh hold on no they aren't........ As for the EU being a free trading bloc well yes strictly true and of course its also strictly true the Mafia provide security to businesses...... As for decades to replicate I am not linking to the article again saying how many have already indicated they will roll over the agreements, or the argument about copy and pasting or the argument about most favoured nation status etc etc Can you show me that article? I have not seen that. The EU is much more than a trading bloc....... You've finally got it. When we joined, we didn't think we were joining anything other than a trading block called the Common Market as that's what we were told at the time. Either we were lied to then or, with its mission creep, the Common Market, EEC or EU (choose which ever alias you prefer) has expanded itself in to so much more than what we thought we were joining and we've never been asked to approve those major changes until 2016. And, once we were eventually consulted about it we decided that we want 'OUT'. Or, most of those of us who cared enough to vote do anyway. It has become something much larger than that which we joined, and it has ambitions to be come much larger still and the majority of those who care about this voted to leave. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 27, 2018 12:08:09 GMT
More evidence that this idiotic Government are either feckless and useless and don't know what votes have passed or just have a genuine disdain for the sovereignty of Parliament.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 27, 2018 12:24:36 GMT
In response to the OP's original question -
Mays plan doesn't get the vote. May resigns. Inconclusive leadership contest, General election, Labour win, Brexit gets delayed and either goes through under different terms led by Starmer or goes to a peoples vote and Brexit gets binned off.
Is my guess.
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Post by yeokel on Nov 27, 2018 12:33:58 GMT
More evidence that this idiotic Government are either feckless and useless and don't know what votes have passed or just have a genuine disdain for the sovereignty of Parliament. This disastrous WA was only approved by our masters at the EU during the weekend. It is not yet Tuesday lunchtime. To have published it by now would, I’m sure, have exceeded most reasonable expectations. What evidence is there that they do not intend abiding by their obligations, or is that letter just a bit of opportunistic shit stirring? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 27, 2018 12:44:42 GMT
In response to the OP's original question - Mays plan doesn't get the vote. May resigns. Inconclusive leadership contest, General election, Labour win, Brexit gets delayed and either goes through under different terms led by Starmer or goes to a peoples vote and Brexit gets binned off. Is my guess. As planned. We already had a People's Vote, but I think your guess is pretty close. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 27, 2018 12:47:11 GMT
More evidence that this idiotic Government are either feckless and useless and don't know what votes have passed or just have a genuine disdain for the sovereignty of Parliament. This disastrous WA was only approved by our masters at the EU during the weekend. It is not yet Tuesday lunchtime. To have published it by now would, I’m sure, have exceeded most reasonable expectations. What evidence is there that they do not intend abiding by their obligations, or is that letter just a bit of opportunistic shit stirring? Downing Street has just said it's not going to!! |
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Post by yeokel on Nov 27, 2018 12:53:47 GMT
This disastrous WA was only approved by our masters at the EU during the weekend. It is not yet Tuesday lunchtime. To have published it by now would, I’m sure, have exceeded most reasonable expectations. What evidence is there that they do not intend abiding by their obligations, or is that letter just a bit of opportunistic shit stirring? Downing Street has just said it's not going to!! Ah, right. I didn't know that. Note to self: Pay more attention to news sites before posting in future. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 27, 2018 13:47:03 GMT
Sadly I actually think may will get her deal through with a small majority
She will convince enough of the mainstream Tory’s that they risk a General Election the turkey’ aren’t going to vote for Christmas
And she will convince enough labour moderates they risk a Tory leadership election in which they will elect a decent leader it’s in labour’s best interest to matain may as leader
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Post by Davef on Nov 27, 2018 14:07:09 GMT
Sadly I actually think may will get her deal through with a small majority She will convince enough of the mainstream Tory’s that they risk a General Election the turkey’ aren’t going to vote for Christmas And she will convince enough labour moderates they risk a Tory leadership election in which they will elect a decent leader it’s in labour’s best interest to matain may as leader I'd quite relish the prospect of the Tories having to choose between deadbeats like Johnson, Leadsom, Davies, Gove and Rees-Mogg if I was the Labour leadership. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 14:14:03 GMT
Sadly I actually think may will get her deal through with a small majority She will convince enough of the mainstream Tory’s that they risk a General Election the turkey’ aren’t going to vote for Christmas And she will convince enough labour moderates they risk a Tory leadership election in which they will elect a decent leader it’s in labour’s best interest to matain may as leader I'd quite relish the prospect of the Tories having to choose between deadbeats like Johnson, Leadsom, Davies, Gove and Rees-Mogg if I was the Labour leadership. Labour and leadership in one sentence 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 27, 2018 16:12:59 GMT
All Corbyn is doing is playing party politics, he's not interested in another referendum he's just using Brexit to get another general election out of it which he won't get. It's pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 16:17:40 GMT
Theresa May....I'm travelling around the country and what I'm hearing direct views from the public ....this is just what we voted for and it's the best deal for the UK
Is there a law that says we can get her locked up for blatant fucking lies
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 27, 2018 16:18:50 GMT
All Corbyn is doing is playing party politics, he's not interested in another referendum he's just using Brexit to get another general election out of it which he won't get. It's pathetic. I think that he would have gone full monty but it is the one thing that the man of principle has given way on through the pressure of the rest of the Labour party..... In a way he had little choice if he wanted to be leader. The true traditional left has always been anti EU because once power is concentrated in a few, remotely and anti democratically, the working class will always be the ones to suffer. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 27, 2018 16:19:55 GMT
Theresa May....I'm travelling around the country and what I'm hearing direct views from the public ....this is just what we voted for and it's the best deal for the UK Is there a law that says we can get her locked up for blatant fucking lies Modern interpretation of Treason? |
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Post by xchpotter on Nov 27, 2018 16:35:57 GMT
Theresa May....I'm travelling around the country and what I'm hearing direct views from the public ....this is just what we voted for and it's the best deal for the UK Is there a law that says we can get her locked up for blatant fucking lies She’s losing what little credibility she had with this aprroach. Surely people won’t actually believe her. Woe betide her if she knocks on my door. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 27, 2018 16:37:11 GMT
In response to the OP's original question - Mays plan doesn't get the vote. May resigns. Inconclusive leadership contest, General election, Labour win, Brexit gets delayed and either goes through under different terms led by Starmer or goes to a peoples vote and Brexit gets binned off. Is my guess. Conservatives will do what's required so that another general election isn't going to happen. Even in the highly unlikely event there was a GE Labour still won't win under Corbyn. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 17:09:49 GMT
Theresa May....I'm travelling around the country and what I'm hearing direct views from the public ....this is just what we voted for and it's the best deal for the UK Is there a law that says we can get her locked up for blatant fucking lies She’s losing what little credibility she had with this aprroach. Surely people won’t actually believe her. Woe betide her if she knocks on my door. 😁👍 Me to the tele .....come knock on my fucking door |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 27, 2018 18:31:11 GMT
She’s losing what little credibility she had with this aprroach. Surely people won’t actually believe her. Woe betide her if she knocks on my door. 😁👍 Me to the tele .....come knock on my fucking door Knock away. Paint lasts longer than skin. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 28, 2018 6:35:44 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 28, 2018 7:24:42 GMT
The EU doesn't have to consider WTO rules... |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 28, 2018 7:30:52 GMT
That headline is a little misleading - sort of sloppy shoulders by the WTO. Nevertheless, the article contains one interesting piece of realpolitik: more than half of RoI beef exports goes to the UK. It's indicative of how dependent the republic is on the UK for trade; of course, it's also dependent on the EU for subsidies which leads to the conflict highlighted earlier in this chain for Ireland; the politicians need the EU but their industrialists need the UK. This beef example is interesting - because it shows how the EU could theoretically be harmed if a tarrif free deal with Brazil ended up with that beef making its way into the EU through NI. This btw is an "issue" regardless of soft or hard Brexit. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 28, 2018 7:38:07 GMT
The EU doesn't have to consider WTO rules... ? |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 28, 2018 7:43:18 GMT
That headline is a little misleading - sort of sloppy shoulders by the WTO. Nevertheless, the article contains one interesting piece of realpolitik: more than half of RoI beef exports goes to the UK. It's indicative of how dependent the republic is on the UK for trade; of course, it's also dependent on the EU for subsidies which leads to the conflict highlighted earlier in this chain for Ireland; the politicians need the EU but their industrialists need the UK. This beef example is interesting - because it shows how the EU could theoretically be harmed if a tarrif free deal with Brazil ended up with that beef making its way into the EU through NI. This btw is an "issue" regardless of soft or hard Brexit. I don't find it misleading. It's the WTO reminding everyone that they're not policemen. They facilitate a platform for global trade. That's all. Anyone quoting the WTO as a problem with Brexit is plain wrong. |
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