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Post by 3putts on May 23, 2017 17:03:09 GMT
Bomber named as 22 year old Salman Abedi. Twat. Any mosque he's attended should be raided by the police then closed. Evil, vile, bastard scum. i would suggest to go a step further CLOSE ALL MOSQUES if muslims want to pray in a mosque then let them go back to their own country.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 23, 2017 17:05:04 GMT
Any mosque he's attended should be raided by the police then closed. Evil, vile, bastard scum. i would suggest to go a step further CLOSE ALL MOSQUES if muslims want to pray in a mosque then let them go back to their own country. Born in Manchester. Mosque needs looking at.
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Post by trigger on May 23, 2017 17:07:30 GMT
Words fail me, devastated for all.
I was in the MEN recently offered to take my wife to see her as well at the MEN.
God Bless.
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Post by metalhead on May 23, 2017 17:08:10 GMT
I must admit, it's time like this you realize that the media, regardless of their political leanings, are all just a bunch of shit houses.
You've got the Daily Mail posting story after story, trying to seemingly capitalize not only on peoples emotions, but also on the human tragedy that has taken place.
And then you've got the Guardian posting an article demanding that people on the right have their freedom of speech removed because they're angrily speaking out, reacting if you will, to what has happened.
Utter dross from both papers. Two ends of the extreme, and two rag papers.
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Post by jjmscfc on May 23, 2017 17:09:11 GMT
The generations and generations before us will be looking down in shock and disappointment at just how bad and out of control this situation has got.
I don't know the logistics of government and there polices but one thing everyone is taught from a young age is to "look after there own" "to stand by each other and be loyal"
The government need to get back to basics and protect British families and stop worrying about human rights and laws.
What's more important to them? That 8 year olds life, or facts and figures on a screen regarding imagration and or sticking to ridiculous Human rights policies
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Post by sharonbeech21 on May 23, 2017 17:28:30 GMT
Absolutely devastating news. People who can do this Murdering Scum. My thoughts and prayers are with the injured and the families of those killed. RIP and God Bless xx
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2017 17:33:55 GMT
Tolerance breeds intolerance with these scum bags. I would hang on before you start with the scum bag comments it may well yet be another white english supremacist who was not a terrorist but was mentally ill. Wrong baldy, another atrocity perpetrated by a home grown Muslim scum bag butchering cowardly fuck wit, time we took this war to them and their supporters. We to could follow the teachings in a book mainly an eye for an eye simple to blame religion.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 23, 2017 17:47:14 GMT
Remember these pair... "He has three siblings and grew up in the Whalley Range area, which became famous after schoolgirls Zahra and Salma Halane"Huffington Post. Quite clearly the Mosques/schools in this area need seriously looking into.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 23, 2017 17:54:22 GMT
Indeed... Or maybe not...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:01:14 GMT
Manchester has a relatively large Sikh community and they're making their presence known in the wake of the attacks. Of course these guys know only too well what we're up against. There will be no heads in the sand in Sikh communities that I can guarantee. I'm sure it rubs them up that the likes of The BBC insist on referring to the muslim rape gangs as "Asian".
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:01:19 GMT
What one thing do all these terrorists have in common?
They're all men. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Ship 'em all out. Studies show that testosterone is shown to create the urges to be violent. We can't stand for it in our society, and the only way to deal with it is to deport them all. Asking them to police themselves in their own community has been shown to be totally ineffective.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:03:19 GMT
What one thing do all these terrorists have in common? They're all men. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Ship 'em all out. Studies show that testosterone is shown to create the urges to be violent. We can't stand for it in our society, and the only way to deal with it is to deport them all. Asking them to police themselves in their own community has been shown to be totally ineffective. Fuck off you knob head.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on May 23, 2017 18:03:54 GMT
Indeed... Or maybe not... Dafties, the sentiment is well intended but at least get the right people when you publish a story.... although I'm sure all people from all backgrounds helped in this!
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2017 18:07:43 GMT
It's a minority Islamic problem. Not a full blown Islamic problem.
It needs the whole Islamic community to help solve it.
There is no point trying to point the finger at the whole religion that would be wrong but the country must be more robust in how they handle this problem
They must be prepared to target Specific Muslim groups/communities/targets etc for things like terror or the sexual stuff in Rochdale with our fear of being accused of racism. Some they will get wrong unfortunately but most they will get right.
Most muslims abhor this shit and integrate and are horrified as all.
Oh and religious schools of all faiths need fucking off.
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Post by manmarking on May 23, 2017 18:10:43 GMT
It's a minority Islamic problem. Not a full blown Islamic problem. It needs the whole Islamic community to help solve it. There is no point trying to point the finger at the whole religion that would be wrong but the country must be more robust in how they handle this problem They must be prepared to target Specific Muslim groups/communities/targets etc for things like terror or the sexual stuff in Rochdale with our fear of being accused of racism. Some they will get wrong unfortunately but most they will get right. Most muslims abhor this shit and integrate and are horrified as all. Oh and religious schools of all faiths need fucking off. Completely agree on all that yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:13:10 GMT
What one thing do all these terrorists have in common? They're all men. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Ship 'em all out. Studies show that testosterone is shown to create the urges to be violent. We can't stand for it in our society, and the only way to deal with it is to deport them all. Asking them to police themselves in their own community has been shown to be totally ineffective. Fuck off you knob head. How very anti freedom of speech.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:14:23 GMT
It's a minority Islamic problem. Not a full blown Islamic problem. It needs the whole Islamic community to help solve it. There is no point trying to point the finger at the whole religion that would be wrong but the country must be more robust in how they handle this problem They must be prepared to target Specific Muslim groups/communities/targets etc for things like terror or the sexual stuff in Rochdale with our fear of being accused of racism. Some they will get wrong unfortunately but most they will get right. Most muslims abhor this shit and integrate and are horrified as all. Oh and religious schools of all faiths need fucking off. Nowt wrong with Buddhism
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:16:38 GMT
It's a minority Islamic problem. Not a full blown Islamic problem. It needs the whole Islamic community to help solve it. There is no point trying to point the finger at the whole religion that would be wrong but the country must be more robust in how they handle this problem They must be prepared to target Specific Muslim groups/communities/targets etc for things like terror or the sexual stuff in Rochdale with our fear of being accused of racism. Some they will get wrong unfortunately but most they will get right. Most muslims abhor this shit and integrate and are horrified as all. Oh and religious schools of all faiths need fucking off. It's a shame that not all responses are this measured. These sorts of events are always used in an incredibly distasteful way to try to score points, and there is a real risk of disproportionate responses. No doubt the EDL types are practically wanking themselves into an apoplectic rage over this as it gives an excuse to try to advance an agenda.
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Post by mrred on May 23, 2017 18:19:15 GMT
Another day, another terrorist attack. Dozens of innocent people, this time mostly children, pay the ultimate price because of our 'tolerance'. All those little boys & girls, brothers & sisters, sons & daughters, gone. All those familes & friends lives changed forever, and why? Because the 'feelings' of some barbaric, backward culture that detest us & our way of life to the bone, are more important than the lives of our own citizens. How long will it be 'till the next one? A couple of months? A couple of weeks? Tomorrow? Tonight? One thing is for sure, it IS coming, this is our life now, this is the life we have handed down to our children & grandchildren. I hope all the virtue-signalling & browine points for being 'so progressive' were worth it. So what now? We all go through the same bullshit routine? A Union Jack social media profile picture here, a 'Manchester' in a heart picture there. We'd better get those hashtags going #StandUnited #ReligionOfPeace #WeWillNotBeDivided #PrayForManchester. Next will be the crying celebrities babbling on about hatred & how Muslims are the real victims. We'll get blamed, we always do, it's always our fault somehow. Have the police been out yet to tell us how the bomber was a 'lonewolf' (Awful lot of lonewolves wandering around Europe right now, I wonder where they all came from all of a sudden #RefugeesWelcome #NooneIsIllegal) He'll nodoubt have a 'mental illness' aswell... Too fucking right he's got a mental illness, but of course none of us dare to say what it is otherwise we'll be arrested for hate speech. Remember, their hurt feelings trump our dead children. Fortunately, and I say that subjectivity- I think this will be the breaking point for a lot of people in this country. Tolerance is not a thing that will continue and the left will crawl back under their rocks. I mean, it's got to fucking change, right? I thought a soldier getting butchered in the streets of the fucking capital would have changed the attitude, but this just takes everything to a whole new level. We've got to put pressure on the Muslim communities to out these rats if they ever have the slightest inkling.
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Post by Stoke70 on May 23, 2017 18:20:31 GMT
How can they think "if i kill myself and loads of innocent people i will go to heaven" They are unable to think because they are the shit of this World.
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2017 18:21:27 GMT
Also the medics and police on the scene are absolute heroes. Can't have been easy
For every attack like this they thwart hundreds more
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Post by mtrstudent on May 23, 2017 18:29:23 GMT
It's a minority Islamic problem. Not a full blown Islamic problem. It needs the whole Islamic community to help solve it. There is no point trying to point the finger at the whole religion that would be wrong but the country must be more robust in how they handle this problem They must be prepared to target Specific Muslim groups/communities/targets etc for things like terror or the sexual stuff in Rochdale with our fear of being accused of racism. Some they will get wrong unfortunately but most they will get right. Most muslims abhor this shit and integrate and are horrified as all. Oh and religious schools of all faiths need fucking off. I can buy into this - there's a balance between stopping racism and having that get in the way of saving people. We've got it wrong in the past. Hey, Trump actually said something right: "I won't call them monsters because they would like that term. I will call them losers". This was pathetic bottom trash lashing out because either his brain was addled, or he was a desperate, lonely loser who got manipulated by evil cunts.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 23, 2017 18:31:04 GMT
Fortunately, and I say that subjectivity- I think this will be the breaking point for a lot of people in this country. Tolerance is not a thing that will continue and the left will crawl back under their rocks. I mean, it's got to fucking change, right? I thought a soldier getting butchered in the streets of the fucking capital would have changed the attitude, but this just takes everything to a whole new level. We've got to put pressure on the Muslim communities to out these rats if they ever have the slightest inkling. What does your pressure look like? Will there be fewer angry young men if we start rounding up families and shutting down mosques? Or do we just need to take all rights away from all Muslims? I want fewer people dying in suicide attacks and I'm convinced that the best way to do this is to be the shining example of progress and integrate the muslims who're here. Attacking Islam in general will make it the West vs Islam, instead of the West and some Islamic countries versus a tiny fraction of mentalists.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 23, 2017 18:34:58 GMT
It's a minority Islamic problem. Not a full blown Islamic problem. It needs the whole Islamic community to help solve it. There is no point trying to point the finger at the whole religion that would be wrong but the country must be more robust in how they handle this problem They must be prepared to target Specific Muslim groups/communities/targets etc for things like terror or the sexual stuff in Rochdale with our fear of being accused of racism. Some they will get wrong unfortunately but most they will get right. Most muslims abhor this shit and integrate and are horrified as all. Oh and religious schools of all faiths need fucking off. Agreed with you before on this and do so now. Well put Al.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 23, 2017 18:35:00 GMT
Yup, we bombed their kids, they'd be posting stuff on their message boards like "I didn't realise it before the Predator drones slaughtered everyone at my daughter's school, but now I realise that what Islamic State needs is human-rights red tape and the Geneva convention." These scum are desperate for us to start torturing and murdering families, their recruiters dream of it. This is another horrible tragedy, RIP to the victims. If it was another suicide attack then it's just another tragically sad, desperate, pathetic loser who fell victim to a bunch of evil manipulative cunts. 22yr old Salman Abedi who was born in Manchester, raised in Manchester and lived in Manchester all his life. So come on you terrorist apologising cunt, show me the news articles where we used our drones in Manchester. There is no apology for the horrible shit done by this loser. Tell me more about the rights you're going to take away from Muslims here, and who're you're looking at detaining and torturing and killing, and how that will calm down angry young men so more of them don't do this again.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 23, 2017 18:37:55 GMT
Also the medics and police on the scene are absolute heroes. Can't have been easy For every attack like this they thwart hundreds more Your first sentence is spot on. The emergency services do a fantastic job when things like this happen. These are the people who should be getting Knighthoods, not tinpot celebrities. Your second sentence is what is terrifing. How many more 'Manchesters' could have happened just this year alone? How many more are going to happen? We can't keep track of them all, and we're willfully standing back & doing nothing as literally millions more of them are marching their way across Europe. The Mosques, the Islamic schools & teachers, the hate preachers, we're doing FUCK ALL about any of it 'cos we don't want to offended anybodies feelings. This WILL happen again, and it'll happen soon, 'cos all our politicians are too fucking spinless to do anything about it. It's alright for them in their walled off communities, their armed guards, they wont be the ones who have to suffer. It'll be yet more innocent people. Glastonbury, New Street Station, the bet365 Stadium, we all know it's coming, and we all know that the Government who is supposed to protect us will do fuck all to stop it.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 23, 2017 18:38:45 GMT
Remember these pair... "He has three siblings and grew up in the Whalley Range area, which became famous after schoolgirls Zahra and Salma Halane"Huffington Post. Quite clearly the Mosques/schools in this area need seriously looking into. Plenty to choose from..... Attachment Deleted
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 23, 2017 18:41:59 GMT
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Post by boothenboy75 on May 23, 2017 18:42:48 GMT
Fortunately, and I say that subjectivity- I think this will be the breaking point for a lot of people in this country. Tolerance is not a thing that will continue and the left will crawl back under their rocks. I mean, it's got to fucking change, right? I thought a soldier getting butchered in the streets of the fucking capital would have changed the attitude, but this just takes everything to a whole new level. We've got to put pressure on the Muslim communities to out these rats if they ever have the slightest inkling. What does your pressure look like? Will there be fewer angry young men if we start rounding up families and shutting down mosques? Or do we just need to take all rights away from all Muslims? I want fewer people dying in suicide attacks and I'm convinced that the best way to do this is to be the shining example of progress and integrate the muslims who're here. Attacking Islam in general will make it the West vs Islam, instead of the West and some Islamic countries versus a tiny fraction of mentalists. Closing down radicalised mosques and schools is an absolute minimum. Pressure should be put on search engines to take down the vile propaganda that's on there. Life sentences for anyone who knew or aided this scum in anyway. Banning full face veils which are in my opinion a form of abuse and can no way be part of an integrated society. Lock up anyone found to have been to fight in Syria. Outlaw Sharia courts in the UK. The terrorists are a tiny fraction but the muslim community continue to tolerate extremist teaching in their schools and their places of worship. They've been given ample opportunity to cut out the scum hiding in their midst and have failed. It's time the government stepped up and sorted it out instead of the usual platitudes about carrying on, standing together and making love heart symbols with your fingers. This PM has had 2 terrorist attacks in as many months after serving as home secretary for 6 years, any more she'll have failed in her duty to protect the British public.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:44:17 GMT
Fortunately, and I say that subjectivity- I think this will be the breaking point for a lot of people in this country. Tolerance is not a thing that will continue and the left will crawl back under their rocks. I mean, it's got to fucking change, right? I thought a soldier getting butchered in the streets of the fucking capital would have changed the attitude, but this just takes everything to a whole new level. We've got to put pressure on the Muslim communities to out these rats if they ever have the slightest inkling. What does your pressure look like? Will there be fewer angry young men if we start rounding up families and shutting down mosques? Or do we just need to take all rights away from all Muslims? I want fewer people dying in suicide attacks and I'm convinced that the best way to do this is to be the shining example of progress and integrate the muslims who're here. Attacking Islam in general will make it the West vs Islam, instead of the West and some Islamic countries versus a tiny fraction of mentalists. I just wrote a post and lost it to a bad connection, but this echoes my thoughts. There is a real risk of discourse and policy moving in such a way that otherises Muslims. Likewise, there is a risk in the media (social and mainstream) that language is used in such a way to remove all nuance. 'You are either with us or against us' sort of stuff that facilitates a move toward a hellish dystopia.
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