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Post by Gods on Apr 28, 2017 10:10:48 GMT
He's getting hammered over three words in his pre-match interview now. Is this what it's come to? That's very true, but the same thing happened in the final days of Pulis, anything and everything he said, sensible or not, was simply lampooned. It does make you concerned for the managers future, its hard to come back from there. It's that wafer thin line, when do you cross it from being seen as part of the solution to part of the problem.
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Post by mrred on Apr 28, 2017 10:15:11 GMT
Everyone's entitled to their opinions. But to cast it off as rubbish, if you've enjoyed the last 18 months and are happy to let this clown continue to run the club down- more the power to you. The fact that we're going to finish comfortably in mid-table given the season we've had and the shifts we've put in tells you everything you need to know about the state of the league.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 28, 2017 10:19:41 GMT
"It is what it is at the end of the day" (10:00-10:03) So there you have it in a nutshell. Can't say fairer than that. And any other cliches you might want to add.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 28, 2017 10:30:41 GMT
Expectations do play a part of course but when you turn up week in week out to see a bunch of multi millionaires under performing on and off the pitch after a hard week or normal life it is annoying and the further these clowns distance themselves from the real world the more abuse they are likely to get. I watrched the second half of the mancunia derby in the pub last night , how much did that bag of utter shite cost to put on , our game seems to be falling way behind despite all the money in it Why are you so jealous of what other people make for a living? Because they get paid well, they can't off days and have to be perfect according to your standards? Do you think having money means you don't have hard weeks? Do you think being a multi millionaire means you don't have problems? Maybe you are the clown that needs to get in the real world. No not at all but the higher these people are viewed and the greater the pedestal they are on the more that is expected , that is just life , you expect more from a rolls royce than a mini , more from a luxury hotel than a B&B When we get claims that this is the best squad ever or that they are in the best league in the world and worth their pay then yes more is expected from them . I dont like the mess the money is making of the game I do expect more from this group of players and they are underperforming but I accept they have problems and off days like the rest of us , maybe not as many as they have shown over the past 18 months though .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 10:33:56 GMT
It has to be said it would be a tad ironic if the man described by his own fans as a "clueless prick" "wanker" "utter clown" etc etc delivered us the fourth top half top flight finish for the FIRST time in our history.
It would be nice for fans and players to turn up tomorrow forgetting all thoughts of the season so far, put in a good performance and finish the season strongly. We can worry about next season in a few weeks then......
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 28, 2017 10:35:12 GMT
He doesn't sound like a man whose job is under pressure.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 28, 2017 10:38:15 GMT
Nothing to see here. Usual manager speak. Why have none of the cowards asked about Shawcross? They asked last week in all fairness didn't they and we got that half arsed response back? That's why I would have expected them to keep hammering the point. Still don't feel there's too much wrong in that press Conference. He really has 'lost' a lot of people very quickly hasn't he?
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Post by liamo on Apr 28, 2017 10:45:22 GMT
What expectations do fans have? Paper over the cracks of this festering turd of a season all you want Mark, claim that everything is hunky dory because we can still finish top 10 all you like but we all know it's just pandering to outside media
We're Stoke, i don't expect us to finish 4th but Hughes using the top 10 goal as a get out of jails free card is bullshit, the only teams we've beaten this season are shit, we've been rolled over and pounded by most decent sides in a manner that would make Pamela Anderson blush
Realistically, we do have a limit, pushing for a Europa league spot is our absolute height.. so when all we can hope for most seasons is a top 10 finish, the manner in which we do it starts to become important and we've played dreadfully, there's no two ways about it, we've looked disjointed and slow and basically wank for the most part and it's unacceptable imo
We suffered with Pulis for long enough but he always did what he said he'd do, he kept us up and safe, Hughes was brought in because as a club we were ready for more, the fact that Hughes is happy with how this season has gone is the biggest warning sign that he needs to go
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Post by Davef on Apr 28, 2017 10:48:33 GMT
The criticism of Butland's return is beyond pathetic. He's our number one goalkeeper, one of the best goalkeepers in the country, he's fit and he needs to be playing games to get back to his very best.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2017 10:54:41 GMT
The criticism of Butland's return is beyond pathetic. He's our number one goalkeeper, one of the best goalkeepers in the country, he's fit and he needs to be playing games to get back to his very best. Do you still think he won't get shit tomorrow if he makes a mistake?
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Post by werrington on Apr 28, 2017 10:56:46 GMT
Perhaps the next manager we have just needs to say 40 points and throw certain games as they are bonus
The last thing we need is a manager who talks his team up and not jizz over the opposition
That's the reality
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 28, 2017 10:57:04 GMT
It's a genuine reflection of how the club feel. Things are by and large ok in their world. Anyone expecting drastic changes in management, playing personnel or anything else this summer are going to be a long time waiting! If that's the case, it's piss poor. Major changes are needed and have been for two seasons.
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Post by mrred on Apr 28, 2017 10:57:16 GMT
The criticism of Butland's return is beyond pathetic. He's our number one goalkeeper, one of the best goalkeepers in the country, he's fit and he needs to be playing games to get back to his very best. Pathetic? Not really. I said I didn't expect many to agree but it's my opinion that Grant deserves to keep his place and it's very harsh to drop him. Jack will have all pre-season and to come back in at the start of next season isn't exactly a set back when there's only 4 games left.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2017 10:58:11 GMT
Perhaps the next manager we have just needs to say 40 points and throw certain games as they are bonus The last thing we need is a manager who talks his team up and not jizz over the opposition That's the reality That's crap though Wezza, TPs press conferences got this level of scrutiny every week for years and years.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 28, 2017 10:59:07 GMT
He's getting hammered over three words in his pre-match interview now. Is this what it's come to? That's very true, but the same thing happened in the final days of Pulis, anything and everything he said, sensible or not, was simply lampooned. It does make you concerned for the managers future, its hard to come back from there. It's that wafer thin line, when do you cross it from being seen as part of the solution to part of the problem. I thought exactly the same, Gods. This message board has turned, and it's eerily reminiscent of the last days of the Pulis Dynasty!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 11:00:06 GMT
The criticism of Butland's return is beyond pathetic. He's our number one goalkeeper, one of the best goalkeepers in the country, he's fit and he needs to be playing games to get back to his very best. Pathetic? Not really. I said I didn't expect many to agree but it's my opinion that Grant deserves to keep his place and it's very harsh to drop him. Jack will have all pre-season and to come back in at the start of next season isn't exactly a set back when there's only 4 games left. Psychologically Butland needed games under his belt this season due to being out for so long and having a couple of set backs along the way. People were starting to speculate whether he'd actually recover so its absolutely the right decision in my opinion to give him a few games to banish those demons. That and the fact that he is the longer term future of our club.....
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 28, 2017 11:03:54 GMT
What expectations do fans have? Paper over the cracks of this festering turd of a season all you want Mark, claim that everything is hunky dory because we can still finish top 10 all you like but we all know it's just pandering to outside media We're Stoke, i don't expect us to finish 4th but Hughes using the top 10 goal as a get out of jails free card is bullshit, the only teams we've beaten this season are shit, we've been rolled over and pounded by most decent sides in a manner that would make Pamela Anderson blush Realistically, we do have a limit, pushing for a Europa league spot is our absolute height.. so when all we can hope for most seasons is a top 10 finish, the manner in which we do it starts to become important and we've played dreadfully, there's no two ways about it, we've looked disjointed and slow and basically wank for the most part and it's unacceptable imo We suffered with Pulis for long enough but he always did what he said he'd do, he kept us up and safe, Hughes was brought in because as a club we were ready for more, the fact that Hughes is happy with how this season has gone is the biggest warning sign that he needs to go Totally agree. We (Stoke City) threw him a lifeline when his career had gone down the pan and in the first 2 1/2 seasons he paid back his dues. Since then it's fallen apart and the future looks less certain. To get to 8th maybe 7th playing on the whole entertaining football is about as good as a league season gets. Going out of both cup competitions early doors with a whimper isn't acceptable. He comes over as a personable type of bloke but he knows he's judged on performance not press conferences.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 11:05:33 GMT
That's very true, but the same thing happened in the final days of Pulis, anything and everything he said, sensible or not, was simply lampooned. It does make you concerned for the managers future, its hard to come back from there. It's that wafer thin line, when do you cross it from being seen as part of the solution to part of the problem. I thought exactly the same, Gods. This message board has turned, and it's eerily reminiscent of the last days of the Pulis Dynasty! The message board doesn't necessarily reflect the general feeling though. I have a lot of friends and family who don't post on here and whilst a couple have misgivings some haven't even contemplated getting rid of Hughes. Those on here, Twitter, Facebook etc are probably more vocal just by virtue of signing up and wanting to share their opinion as opposed to just turning up at the weekend to support the team without worrying about the weekly goings on in between.....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 28, 2017 11:05:35 GMT
"Any dissent among fans is down to expectation" Really?Its down to the standard of football on offer for the majority of the season The expectation of the football we expect our team to be playing based on what he himself, as our manager created. He's acknowledged that we've fallen short of those standards but stated that all is not lost and that there is still positives to strive for in the games remaining this season. As I say, some people will moan and pick fault with absolutely anything.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 28, 2017 11:06:03 GMT
Expectations do play a part of course but when you turn up week in week out to see a bunch of multi millionaires under performing on and off the pitch after a hard week or normal life it is annoying and the further these clowns distance themselves from the real world the more abuse they are likely to get. I watrched the second half of the mancunia derby in the pub last night , how much did that bag of utter shite cost to put on , our game seems to be falling way behind despite all the money in it Why are you so jealous of what other people make for a living? Because they get paid well, they can't off days and have to be perfect according to your standards? Do you think having money means you don't have hard weeks? Do you think being a multi millionaire means you don't have problems? Maybe you are the clown that needs to get in the real world. I'll take their hard weeks any time, Crown!
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 28, 2017 11:13:01 GMT
Why are you so jealous of what other people make for a living? Because they get paid well, they can't off days and have to be perfect according to your standards? Do you think having money means you don't have hard weeks? Do you think being a multi millionaire means you don't have problems? Maybe you are the clown that needs to get in the real world. I'll take their hard weeks any time, Crown! I hear ya!
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Post by Gods on Apr 28, 2017 11:19:07 GMT
Anyway the only way you'll see him gone is if United Airlines security swing by his office in Clayton Woods and hoick him out without so much as a 'by your leave'
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 28, 2017 11:20:05 GMT
I thought exactly the same, Gods. This message board has turned, and it's eerily reminiscent of the last days of the Pulis Dynasty! The message board doesn't necessarily reflect the general feeling though. I have a lot of friends and family who don't post on here and whilst a couple have misgivings some haven't even contemplated getting rid of Hughes. Those on here, Twitter, Facebook etc are probably more vocal just by virtue of signing up and wanting to share their opinion as opposed to just turning up at the weekend to support the team without worrying about the weekly goings on in between..... I also think the feeling of discontent on here is magnified but there are winder upperers like Crapslinger and those with the need to perpetually pepper their posts with negativity, stamping their feet like kids, Alster, Bayern are incessant. Sensible and reasonable folk like me don't feel the need to bang on about how Hughes ain't going nowhere fast. Good job a slack handful of internetters don't make the decisions.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2017 11:23:55 GMT
The message board doesn't necessarily reflect the general feeling though. I have a lot of friends and family who don't post on here and whilst a couple have misgivings some haven't even contemplated getting rid of Hughes. Those on here, Twitter, Facebook etc are probably more vocal just by virtue of signing up and wanting to share their opinion as opposed to just turning up at the weekend to support the team without worrying about the weekly goings on in between..... I also think the feeling of discontent on here is magnified but there are winder upperers like Crapslinger and those with the need to perpetually pepper their posts with negativity, stamping their feet like kids, Alster, Bayern are incessant. Sensible and reasonable folk like me don't feel the need to bang on about how Hughes ain't going nowhere fast. Good job a slack handful of internetters don't make the decisions. That just doesn't tally with what's gone on in the ground though. Unless your head is in the sand.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 28, 2017 11:27:40 GMT
I'm at the stage now where everything Hughes says irritates me, he could tell me it's a lovely Spring morning and I'd tell him to fuck off it's cloudy.
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Post by Will_75 on Apr 28, 2017 11:30:33 GMT
"Any dissent among fans is down to expectation" Really?Its down to the standard of football on offer for the majority of the season The expectation of the football we expect our team to be playing based on what he himself, as our manager created. He's acknowledged that we've fallen short of those standards but stated that all is not lost and that there is still positives to strive for in the games remaining this season. As I say, some people will moan and pick fault with absolutely anything. spot on. there are some attention seeking idiots on here, and the more the manager winds them up, the better as far as I'm concerned I just wish they'd find something better to do with their time than posting the same old drivel on here again and again and again and again....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 11:31:03 GMT
I also think the feeling of discontent on here is magnified but there are winder upperers like Crapslinger and those with the need to perpetually pepper their posts with negativity, stamping their feet like kids, Alster, Bayern are incessant. Sensible and reasonable folk like me don't feel the need to bang on about how Hughes ain't going nowhere fast. Good job a slack handful of internetters don't make the decisions. That just doesn't tally with what's gone on in the ground though. Unless your head is in the sand. I would argue your exaggerated view of their being a "poisonous toxic" atmosphere in the ground every week doesn't tally with me either....
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Post by Will_75 on Apr 28, 2017 11:33:10 GMT
The message board doesn't necessarily reflect the general feeling though. I have a lot of friends and family who don't post on here and whilst a couple have misgivings some haven't even contemplated getting rid of Hughes. Those on here, Twitter, Facebook etc are probably more vocal just by virtue of signing up and wanting to share their opinion as opposed to just turning up at the weekend to support the team without worrying about the weekly goings on in between..... I also think the feeling of discontent on here is magnified but there are winder upperers like Crapslinger and those with the need to perpetually pepper their posts with negativity, stamping their feet like kids, Alster, Bayern are incessant. Sensible and reasonable folk like me don't feel the need to bang on about how Hughes ain't going nowhere fast. Good job a slack handful of internetters don't make the decisions. Again, spot on. I hate myself for trying to engage with them sometimes. They're never going to listen, clearly enjoy being repetitive dickheads, and enjoy the attention.
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Post by Will_75 on Apr 28, 2017 11:34:01 GMT
I'm at the stage now where everything Hughes says irritates me, he could tell me it's a lovely Spring morning and I'd tell him to fuck off it's cloudy. I would pay good money to see what happened next...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2017 11:36:05 GMT
That just doesn't tally with what's gone on in the ground though. Unless your head is in the sand. I would argue your exaggerated view of their being a "poisonous toxic" atmosphere in the ground every week doesn't tally with me either.... I haven't said there's that every week have I. I said there's been booing at most home games since Norwich. There has. The Hull game was outright rebellion with the sub. There was no need for the booing yet a large proportion booed. I work with 5/6 Stoke fans, none have a good word to say about him. I just don't see this everything will be alright next season lark. And one for thing, it needed to change this season after the second half of last season. He was getting dogs abuse from people around me at the game against Hull. And my old man sat behind the dugout for the Liverpool and said he got tonnes of stick. The Brit isn't a happy place.
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