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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:01:06 GMT
Lets hope the cock womble carries on gambling and loses the fucking lot...Wanker of the highest order. Oi Barton, if you are reading the 3/1 says you are finished... HERE IS HIS NEW SHIRT SPONSORAttachment Deleted |
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 26, 2017 13:05:14 GMT
Not really considering his form. We had a player doing exactly the same thing in Cameron Jerome Like him or not it's harsh ......the precedent has now been set though Maybe, but I think his general conduct in football won't of helped his cause, you know? If he had never put a foot wrong, I'd be more inclined to say it was harsh, but with him, I think his previous behavior has probably had something to do with it (wrongly or rightly). |
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Post by werrington on Apr 26, 2017 13:18:14 GMT
We had a player doing exactly the same thing in Cameron Jerome Like him or not it's harsh ......the precedent has now been set though Maybe, but I think his general conduct in football won't of helped his cause, you know? If he had never put a foot wrong, I'd be more inclined to say it was harsh, but with him, I think his previous behavior has probably had something to do with it (wrongly or rightly). If that's the case then he's potentially got a legal case as they have potentially finished his career ? He's been dealt with for all his other sins so he should receive the same punishment for this as every other player whose done it ? There are set punishments ( or should be ) and he has taking a huge hit in comparison |
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Post by greyman on Apr 26, 2017 13:20:22 GMT
Over 10 years not 7 weeks Ha - turns out I can't read. Or see what I want to see. 2006, not 2016. I'll be brave and not delete my post. PULIS OUT! Some people may not know that Wilbur here is a surveyor. working for one of the world's largest architecture firms*. I'm going to place some bets on his clients' buildings falling down, the daft twat.  *BTW Will, I presented at their offices just before Christmas. Next time, you can buy me that pint you no doubt owe me. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 26, 2017 13:23:50 GMT
Maybe, but I think his general conduct in football won't of helped his cause, you know? If he had never put a foot wrong, I'd be more inclined to say it was harsh, but with him, I think his previous behavior has probably had something to do with it (wrongly or rightly). If that's the case then he's potentially got a legal case as they have potentially finished his career ? He's been dealt with for all his other sins so he should receive the same punishment for this as every other player whose done it ? There are set punishments ( or should be ) and he has taking a huge hit in comparison To be fair, we don't actually know the full ins and outs as yet re: the bets Barton made. Regardless, for him to say he's been "forced" into early retirement by them just isn't true...he's been forced into it by him doing something he knew full well wasn't allowed. |
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 26, 2017 13:25:01 GMT
Maybe, but I think his general conduct in football won't of helped his cause, you know? If he had never put a foot wrong, I'd be more inclined to say it was harsh, but with him, I think his previous behavior has probably had something to do with it (wrongly or rightly). If that's the case then he's potentially got a legal case as they have potentially finished his career ? He's been dealt with for all his other sins so he should receive the same punishment for this as every other player whose done it ? There are set punishments ( or should be ) and he has taking a huge hit in comparison I agree with you, he should be dealt with on the wrong he has committed, but we both know, bad character does not do you any favors. I am sure his previous conduct is taken into account, just like a criminal court, when your previous convictions are taken into account when being sentenced... First offence, light sentence, third offense and the judge might send you for the ride. |
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Post by werrington on Apr 26, 2017 13:25:13 GMT
If that's the case then he's potentially got a legal case as they have potentially finished his career ? He's been dealt with for all his other sins so he should receive the same punishment for this as every other player whose done it ? There are set punishments ( or should be ) and he has taking a huge hit in comparison To be fair, we don't actually know the full ins and outs as yet re: the bets Barton made. Regardless, for him to say he's been "forced" into early retirement by them just isn't true...he's been forced into it by him doing something he knew full well wasn't allowed. Oh I agree with that last paragraph mate He has issued a statement saying none involved match fixing or anything of that nature |
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Post by Will_75 on Apr 26, 2017 13:28:09 GMT
Ha - turns out I can't read. Or see what I want to see. 2006, not 2016. I'll be brave and not delete my post. PULIS OUT! Some people may not know that Wilbur here is a surveyor. working for one of the world's largest architecture firms*. I'm going to place some bets on his client's buildings falling down, the daft twat. *BTW Will, I presented at their offices just before Christmas. Next time, you can buy me that pint you no doubt owe me. How very dare you, we are engineers. But you're right, numbers were never my strong point. At least I'm honest, as a wise man once said. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 26, 2017 13:31:09 GMT
To be fair, we don't actually know the full ins and outs as yet re: the bets Barton made. Regardless, for him to say he's been "forced" into early retirement by them just isn't true...he's been forced into it by him doing something he knew full well wasn't allowed. Oh I agree with that last paragraph mate He has issued a statement saying none involved match fixing or anything of that nature He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? He's also said it's because of his culture and the area he grew up in...the man needs to just hold his hands up and accept he's been an utter dick. As has been pointed out, even if he does have a gambling addiction, i'm pretty sure bookies accept bets on other events and sports other than just footy. The bloke's an utter idiot and him trying to play for sympathy is incredibly unpallatable in my opinion. |
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Post by greyman on Apr 26, 2017 13:34:39 GMT
Oh I agree with that last paragraph mate He has issued a statement saying none involved match fixing or anything of that nature He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? There's always an explanation with Joey isn't there? Whether he's betting on matches, assaulting people in the street, trying to injure opponents, stubbing cigars out in teammates' eyes, punching non league players, fighting 15 year olds, running over pedestrians, feigning injury or whatever. Poor Joey. |
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Post by werrington on Apr 26, 2017 13:38:00 GMT
Oh I agree with that last paragraph mate He has issued a statement saying none involved match fixing or anything of that nature He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? He's also said it's because of his culture and the area he grew up in...the man needs to just hold his hands up and accept he's been an utter dick. As has been pointed out, even if he does have a gambling addiction, i'm pretty sure bookies accept bets on other events and sports other than just footy. The bloke's an utter idiot and him trying to play for sympathy is incredibly unpallatable in my opinion. I get the impression that you think I'm defending him ...I'm not, far from it I'm just saying a punishment is a punishment and his is more severe than any other that's been handed out for the same thing |
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 26, 2017 13:38:22 GMT
Have to laugh at some of the bets he's placed. They just prove how thick the bloke is.
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 26, 2017 13:38:34 GMT
Oh I agree with that last paragraph mate He has issued a statement saying none involved match fixing or anything of that nature He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? That's exactly what he has done Mick, he's admitted the charges, revealed the main bets in his statement that the FA say are the worst and just said that the punishment is Harsh in comparison to other players that have done the same. It's 1 betting account in his name registered to his home address with over 15,000 bets of which 1,200 where on football which are the ones that break the rules. They're all relatively small bets so no signs of seeking a financial gain considering what he earns. He's admitted his guilt, used a gambling addiction as part of his defence and is just a bit miffed that they've hit him with 18 months ban when others have just had a fine or very short ban. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 26, 2017 13:38:57 GMT
He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? He's also said it's because of his culture and the area he grew up in...the man needs to just hold his hands up and accept he's been an utter dick. As has been pointed out, even if he does have a gambling addiction, i'm pretty sure bookies accept bets on other events and sports other than just footy. The bloke's an utter idiot and him trying to play for sympathy is incredibly unpallatable in my opinion. I get the impression that you think I'm defending him ...I'm not, far from it I'm just saying a punishment is a punishment and his is more severe than any other that's been handed out for the same thing But Wezza, as i said in my original post, we don't know if it IS the same thing yet do we? |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Apr 26, 2017 13:39:44 GMT
Not really considering his form. We had a player doing exactly the same thing in Cameron Jerome Like him or not it's harsh ......the precedent has now been set though 18mth is harsh. Prob just because its joey barton? |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 26, 2017 13:41:01 GMT
He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? That's exactly what he has done Mick, he's admitted the charges, revealed the main bets in his statement that the FA say are the worst and just said that the punishment is Harsh in comparison to other players that have done the same. It's 1 betting account in his name registered to his home address with over 15,000 bets of which 1,200 where on football which are the ones that break the rules. They're all relatively small bets so no signs of seeking a financial gain considering what he earns. He's admitted his guilt, used a gambling addiction as part of his defence and is just a bit miffed that they've hit him with 18 months ban when others have just had a fine or very short ban. And as i said in my first post, all we have so far is HIS side of the story don't we? The FA's statement was very short and didn't go into the details of the matter....so at the moment, you're basing it entirely on the guilty party's version of the events. That's the reason i mentioned the Rangers incident...he wasn't quite being truthful with us when he gave his version back then either was he? |
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Post by Gifton on Apr 26, 2017 13:55:10 GMT
This sob story he is a gambling addict is bollocks and an insult to true addiction sufferers. He's spinning a yarn to garner public sympathy.
As stated above, why football? A gambling addict could get his fix from any number of other sports.
His bets were relatively small and infrequent. When asked about the small stakes Barton claimed he only bet small because he hates to lose. That is not the mentality of a gambling addict. Matty Etherington just said as much on the radio.
He's not a gambling addict at all, not even close. He's just a scumbag cheapening the real struggles of others to try and weasel out of a mess entirely of his own making.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 26, 2017 13:57:04 GMT
If that's the case then he's potentially got a legal case as they have potentially finished his career ? He's been dealt with for all his other sins so he should receive the same punishment for this as every other player whose done it ? There are set punishments ( or should be ) and he has taking a huge hit in comparison To be fair, we don't actually know the full ins and outs as yet re: the bets Barton made. Regardless, for him to say he's been "forced" into early retirement by them just isn't true...he's been forced into it by him doing something he knew full well wasn't allowed. He's put a list up on his website of the 30 the FA judged the most pertinent. He also seems to be a pretty wank gambler losing most, some of the others mentioned are for pathetic amounts seen £5 Samaras first goalscorer, £3 on himself. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 26, 2017 13:57:29 GMT
He's a criminal earning a wage most of us can only dream of.
Ill leave the sympathy for someone more deserving.
See ya later Joey and turn off that Twatter account while you're at it. Hope he disappears into insignificance finally
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 26, 2017 13:59:20 GMT
To be fair, we don't actually know the full ins and outs as yet re: the bets Barton made. Regardless, for him to say he's been "forced" into early retirement by them just isn't true...he's been forced into it by him doing something he knew full well wasn't allowed. He's put a list up on his website of the 30 the FA judged the most pertinent. He also seems to be a pretty wank gambler losing most, some of the others mentioned are for pathetic amounts seen £5 Samaras first goalscorer, £3 on himself. So we'll base it on Barton (the guilty party) telling us what HE says are the ones the FA felt were the worst and 100% believe that's that then?  Personally i'll wait until the FA tell us what THEY saw as being the worst rather than just believing him who now seems to be getting as many excuses out first (before the FA speak out with the facts) while he can. The man completely lied previously about his gambling and not knowing why Rangers had sent him home but now he's 100% telling the truth....yeah, okay then. |
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 26, 2017 14:03:48 GMT
That's exactly what he has done Mick, he's admitted the charges, revealed the main bets in his statement that the FA say are the worst and just said that the punishment is Harsh in comparison to other players that have done the same. It's 1 betting account in his name registered to his home address with over 15,000 bets of which 1,200 where on football which are the ones that break the rules. They're all relatively small bets so no signs of seeking a financial gain considering what he earns. He's admitted his guilt, used a gambling addiction as part of his defence and is just a bit miffed that they've hit him with 18 months ban when others have just had a fine or very short ban. And as i said in my first post, all we have so far is HIS side of the story don't we? The FA's statement was very short and didn't go into the details of the matter....so at the moment, you're basing it entirely on the guilty party's version of the events. That's the reason i mentioned the Rangers incident...he wasn't quite being truthful with us when he gave his version back then either was he? I've no idea what went on and what got said at rangers, I've had a quick google but can't find anything, but I can't believe he'd make a full and detailed statement on his website if it wasn't 100% truthful with him seeking an appeal, it would harm his case and leaves him open to retaliation from the FA. Standard for Barton's career though, started with controversy and ends in controversy. |
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Post by salopstick on Apr 26, 2017 14:16:00 GMT
Not really considering his form. We had a player doing exactly the same thing in Cameron Jerome Like him or not it's harsh ......the precedent has now been set though The precedent has been set because of his reputation and previous imo |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Apr 26, 2017 14:28:18 GMT
did he bet on it  |
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 26, 2017 14:31:13 GMT
He also said whilst at Rangers that it was "strange" that he had been sent home from training and had no idea why, when it later (after being suspended by the SFA) turned out he knew full well it was because of his gambling back then as well. Bearing in mind what we all know he's like, why anyone would believe a statement from Joey Barton and presume it must be the full story god only knows. He's already tried to blame the FA for his "early retirement" in this case so he's hardly going to come out holding his hands up saying "Yeah, i've been an utter prick and can't blame anyone else but myself" is he? That's exactly what he has done Mick, he's admitted the charges, revealed the main bets in his statement that the FA say are the worst and just said that the punishment is Harsh in comparison to other players that have done the same. It's 1 betting account in his name registered to his home address with over 15,000 bets of which 1,200 where on football which are the ones that break the rules. They're all relatively small bets so no signs of seeking a financial gain considering what he earns. He's admitted his guilt, used a gambling addiction as part of his defence and is just a bit miffed that they've hit him with 18 months ban when others have just had a fine or very short ban. He's been betting but not seeking financial gain? Glad you aren't mitigating on my behalf. |
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Apr 26, 2017 15:01:39 GMT
People saying it's harsh... Primarily as a comparison to others who have been banned for 6 months for betting on games not involving them and 12 months for their own team.
FA have just added the two together, and got 18 months... No?
Of course, that's a pretty simplistic view but it's feasible the FA looked at these as two separate offences.
And if he truly had nothing to hide, publish each individual bet and let the public decide - yes, all 1200 of them.
He knew the rules and broke them. Accept the consequences. Didn't the Scottish FA ban him for betting, too..? So he has... Erm... Form...
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Post by nott1 on Apr 26, 2017 15:12:45 GMT
He's put a list up on his website of the 30 the FA judged the most pertinent. He also seems to be a pretty wank gambler losing most, some of the others mentioned are for pathetic amounts seen £5 Samaras first goalscorer, £3 on himself. So we'll base it on Barton (the guilty party) telling us what HE says are the ones the FA felt were the worst and 100% believe that's that then? Personally i'll wait until the FA tell us what THEY saw as being the worst rather than just believing him who now seems to be getting as many excuses out first (before the FA speak out with the facts) while he can. The man completely lied previously about his gambling and not knowing why Rangers had sent him home but now he's 100% telling the truth....yeah, okay then. I'm surprised the usual bindippers phrase "no comment" wasn't proffered by him. Why give them all that info or have the bookies grassed? Don't they have a privacy obligation? |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 26, 2017 15:18:43 GMT
So we'll base it on Barton (the guilty party) telling us what HE says are the ones the FA felt were the worst and 100% believe that's that then? Personally i'll wait until the FA tell us what THEY saw as being the worst rather than just believing him who now seems to be getting as many excuses out first (before the FA speak out with the facts) while he can. The man completely lied previously about his gambling and not knowing why Rangers had sent him home but now he's 100% telling the truth....yeah, okay then. I'm surprised the usual bindippers phrase "no comment" wasn't proffered by him. Why give them all that info or have the bookies grassed? Don't they have a privacy obligation? Him getting in quickly to make out like he's been hard done by "Yes, i made the mistake but...i'm an addict...it's the fault of the culture of where i was brought up...the FA have done me" In other words, it's my fault but actually it's everyone else's. Just means we'll all have to put up with more of his utter bollocks on Talksport and the likes now |
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 26, 2017 15:27:44 GMT
He should be banned for life.
But he won't because life bans are illegal in law these days.
I guess the BBC will have a job/interview for him using our license money, as they did with George Best; the first day he was out of prison he was on Grandstand (or some BBC programme).
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Post by samba :) on Apr 26, 2017 15:42:02 GMT
He bet against his own team, he wasnt in the squad, but if i was good at football and a teammate did that i wouldnt bebvery happy
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 26, 2017 16:03:36 GMT
He's put a list up on his website of the 30 the FA judged the most pertinent. He also seems to be a pretty wank gambler losing most, some of the others mentioned are for pathetic amounts seen £5 Samaras first goalscorer, £3 on himself. So we'll base it on Barton (the guilty party) telling us what HE says are the ones the FA felt were the worst and 100% believe that's that then? Personally i'll wait until the FA tell us what THEY saw as being the worst rather than just believing him who now seems to be getting as many excuses out first (before the FA speak out with the facts) while he can. The man completely lied previously about his gambling and not knowing why Rangers had sent him home but now he's 100% telling the truth....yeah, okay then. You don't half come across as wanting an argument for arguments sake sometimes. You said you didn't know the ins and outs of the bets, I pointed you in the direction of where there was some information. I've not actually passed any opinion on the truth or otherwise although as it happens I don't believe he's stupid enough to lie about the bets the FA judged the most pertinent and these are mainly vets bets on his team. The amounts are pretty small for a man of his wealth but that's irrelevant as it's been proved he broke FA rules 1,260 times so he's done, the addiction argument is rubbish as he'd be betting thousands of that was the case. |
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