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Post by Waggy on Apr 25, 2017 16:46:37 GMT
If not sure how to vote, google- general election 2017 iside with . Its a quiz expand answers not just yes or no and fire away. Its on various subjects. Ive done it and my usual party i vote for came 5th. The top one was the other one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 17:09:57 GMT
If not sure how to vote, google- general election 2017 iside with . Its a quiz expand answers not just yes or no and fire away. Its on various subjects. Ive done it and my usual party i vote for came 5th. The top one was the other one. You won't get any help off google ......vote with your head , a vote for common sense is the best bet ....although whose common sense that may be is another question .......Hope that helps Waggy  |
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Post by Waggy on Apr 25, 2017 17:50:28 GMT
If not sure how to vote, google- general election 2017 iside with . Its a quiz expand answers not just yes or no and fire away. Its on various subjects. Ive done it and my usual party i vote for came 5th. The top one was the other one. You won't get any help off google ......vote with your head , a vote for common sense is the best bet ....although whose common sense that may be is another question .......Hope that helps Waggy I think so, im struggling at the moment but i suppose theres plenty of time |
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Post by robstokie on Apr 25, 2017 17:53:56 GMT
No worries whatsoever for me - the party I am planning to vote for was my best match!!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 25, 2017 17:56:11 GMT
"Vote Tory if you want more of this....
Michael Fallon......Job: far too many to mention.....
MP Salary: £64,766 (part time)
Total second home claims
2004-05: £16,825
2005-06: £16,882
2006-07: £22,110
2007-08: £22,853
He then bought another flat in Westminster for £728,000. Soon after moving in, he claimed £1,795 for a bed, £1,500 for curtains and almost £1,000 for a freezer, washer-dryer and deep cleaner. The claim for the bed was reduced to £1,000.
He then began claiming the interest on the mortgage for his new flat, which came to about £2,100 per month — almost three times as much as at his previous property. Mr Fallon also shares a large house in his Kent constituency with his wife, Wendy. The house, which the couple bought in 1997, is about 28 miles away from Westminster. It is not mortgaged.
Mr Fallon is also paid as a director of three companies. His salary from one, a money broker, is reportedly £45,000. He also pays his wife from his taxpayer-funded office expenses to work as his secretary.
Don't you just love the Tories."
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Post by pearo on Apr 25, 2017 18:03:32 GMT
Watch as many political shows on TV as you can, read a broad spectrum of newspapers, ask the opinions of your friends and peers, especially Trevor. This should help you to gain some clarification then when get into the polling booth spin round three times, close your eyes, put a cross anywhere on the paper, fold it over and pop it in the ballot box. You can do this in the safe knowledge that it will make no difference to the result in any of the constituencies in this city.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Apr 25, 2017 18:17:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 18:49:04 GMT
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Apr 25, 2017 21:21:13 GMT
Ignore idiots bemoaning tories for similar actions taken by other party members.... As said above, watch different programmes (newsnight etc) articles that debate both sides of the argument, radio programmes, investigate manifestos and see whichever party sits more comfortably with your values and based on your own judgement and opinion.. be it Conservative, Labour, Liberal etc... Then vote accordingly. It may not be the result you wanted but you will be satisfied that you were well informed and able to construct a reasoned argument for why you voted the way you did... I would totally respect that  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 21:55:15 GMT
"Vote Tory if you want more of this.... Michael Fallon......Job: far too many to mention..... MP Salary: £64,766 (part time) Total second home claims 2004-05: £16,825 2005-06: £16,882 2006-07: £22,110 2007-08: £22,853 He then bought another flat in Westminster for £728,000. Soon after moving in, he claimed £1,795 for a bed, £1,500 for curtains and almost £1,000 for a freezer, washer-dryer and deep cleaner. The claim for the bed was reduced to £1,000. He then began claiming the interest on the mortgage for his new flat, which came to about £2,100 per month — almost three times as much as at his previous property. Mr Fallon also shares a large house in his Kent constituency with his wife, Wendy. The house, which the couple bought in 1997, is about 28 miles away from Westminster. It is not mortgaged. Mr Fallon is also paid as a director of three companies. His salary from one, a money broker, is reportedly £45,000. He also pays his wife from his taxpayer-funded office expenses to work as his secretary. Don't you just love the Tories." For an alternative insight into the make up of how a socialist family runs ......Check out the Kinnock family ....serving the people . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 22:35:01 GMT
The First time I've read any of their literature ....amusing to the level of some you might expect from the official opposition , all except 99 which is going too far  |
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 25, 2017 23:01:47 GMT
Its very simple
Do you want a National Health Service? Do you want to pay for Health care?
Anyone noticed Tories referring to our NHS only as "the Health Service" or "the Health and Care System"?
Do you think they miss out the word "NATIONAL" by accident?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 23:18:42 GMT
Its very simple Do you want a National Health Service? Do you want to pay for Health care? Anyone noticed Tories referring to our NHS only as "the Health Service" or "the Health and Care System"? Do you think they miss out the word "NATIONAL" by accident? Don't you think that people who pay for private health care , don't also pay their contributions towards the health service ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 23:39:42 GMT
Its very simple Do you want a National Health Service? Do you want to pay for Health care? Anyone noticed Tories referring to our NHS only as "the Health Service" or "the Health and Care System"? Do you think they miss out the word "NATIONAL" by accident? You do pay for our health care .....and the astronomical cost of providing it is something people need to understand ...it's escalated to way above what the concept envisaged in 1945 ...the way the health service is funded has to be looked at in some detail before long because if people wish to see it remain at the very highest level of provision ...some kind of additional funds will need to be found to sustain it ......probably from the private sector in some ways |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 26, 2017 3:23:23 GMT
"Vote Tory if you want more of this.... Michael Fallon......Job: far too many to mention..... MP Salary: £64,766 (part time) Total second home claims 2004-05: £16,825 2005-06: £16,882 2006-07: £22,110 2007-08: £22,853 He then bought another flat in Westminster for £728,000. Soon after moving in, he claimed £1,795 for a bed, £1,500 for curtains and almost £1,000 for a freezer, washer-dryer and deep cleaner. The claim for the bed was reduced to £1,000. He then began claiming the interest on the mortgage for his new flat, which came to about £2,100 per month — almost three times as much as at his previous property. Mr Fallon also shares a large house in his Kent constituency with his wife, Wendy. The house, which the couple bought in 1997, is about 28 miles away from Westminster. It is not mortgaged. Mr Fallon is also paid as a director of three companies. His salary from one, a money broker, is reportedly £45,000. He also pays his wife from his taxpayer-funded office expenses to work as his secretary. Don't you just love the Tories." For an alternative insight into the make up of how a socialist family runs ......Check out the Kinnock family ....serving the people . Except of course they're not socialists. But apart from that, yes |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 3:37:49 GMT
"Vote Tory if you want more of this.... Michael Fallon......Job: far too many to mention..... MP Salary: £64,766 (part time) Total second home claims 2004-05: £16,825 2005-06: £16,882 2006-07: £22,110 2007-08: £22,853 He then bought another flat in Westminster for £728,000. Soon after moving in, he claimed £1,795 for a bed, £1,500 for curtains and almost £1,000 for a freezer, washer-dryer and deep cleaner. The claim for the bed was reduced to £1,000. He then began claiming the interest on the mortgage for his new flat, which came to about £2,100 per month — almost three times as much as at his previous property. Mr Fallon also shares a large house in his Kent constituency with his wife, Wendy. The house, which the couple bought in 1997, is about 28 miles away from Westminster. It is not mortgaged. Mr Fallon is also paid as a director of three companies. His salary from one, a money broker, is reportedly £45,000. He also pays his wife from his taxpayer-funded office expenses to work as his secretary. Don't you just love the Tories." Bloody Tories eh....Why can't they be whiter than white like Labour MP's....They never fiddle expenses... Oh...HOLD ON..... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2074579/Labour-MPs-jailed-fiddling-expenses-ordered-pay-125-000-legal-fees.html |
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 26, 2017 3:46:04 GMT
Its very simple Do you want a National Health Service? Do you want to pay for Health care? Anyone noticed Tories referring to our NHS only as "the Health Service" or "the Health and Care System"? Do you think they miss out the word "NATIONAL" by accident? You do pay for our health care .....and the astronomical cost of providing it is something people need to understand ...it's escalated to way above what the concept envisaged in 1945 ...the way the health service is funded has to be looked at in some detail before long because if people wish to see it remain at the very highest level of provision ...some kind of additional funds will need to be found to sustain it ......probably from the private sector in some ways Can I ask why you are so convinced that an effective National Health Service cannot be 100% funded by the taxpayer? Why do you feel that the private sector needs to be involved? Surely this will turn the NHS, which is free at the point of access for every UK citizen, into a profit centre for wealthy investors. Why are you recommending the introduction of private healthcare for UK citizens when some of our people are already using foodbanks? Have you been to the US? Have you observed the absolute mess their healthcare system is in? Do want an average prescription to go from £7.10 to over £60.00? Only an absolute fool, a super-rich fatcat or a brainwashed Tory idiot would want to see the NHS broken up and privatised. Which one are you Mr. Potter? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 5:30:39 GMT
The First time I've read any of their literature ....amusing to the level of some you might expect from the official opposition , all except 99 which is going too far Yes 99 is going too far......it only goes upto 98 from what I can see  I like the one on women's footy..... "Women's football To get more men to watch women's football all players should have to swap shirts at the end of games (or better still, every time they kick the ball?) ". Sal would have a coronary |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 26, 2017 6:32:17 GMT
Watch as many political shows on TV as you can, read a broad spectrum of newspapers, ask the opinions of your friends and peers, especially Trevor. This should help you to gain some clarification then when get into the polling booth spin round three times, close your eyes, put a cross anywhere on the paper, fold it over and pop it in the ballot box. You can do this in the safe knowledge that it will make no difference to the result in any of the constituencies in this city. You forgot to mention to put a big cross against the candidate you definitely DONT want to vote for on your ballot paper. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 6:41:12 GMT
I would say be open minded and don't stay loyal to one party. Trust your own instincts and don't try to be swayed by other people, all parties have positives and negatives.
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Post by britsabroad on Apr 26, 2017 7:48:29 GMT
This is a fairly simple election. There are no credible alternatives to the Tories this time. Best to vote them in with a large majority to get through Brexit as best as possible then hope for a real opposition in 2022.
There only way I'd seriously consider voting otherwise is if someone runs on staying in the EU.
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 26, 2017 8:05:45 GMT
This is a fairly simple election. There are no credible alternatives to the Tories this time. Best to vote them in with a large majority to get through Brexit as best as possible then hope for a real opposition in 2022. There only way I'd seriously consider voting otherwise is if someone runs on staying in the EU. Rubbish, i'm afraid. Absolute garbage. Keep peddling the message... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 9:10:30 GMT
This is a fairly simple election. There are no credible alternatives to the Tories this time. Best to vote them in with a large majority to get through Brexit as best as possible then hope for a real opposition in 2022. There only way I'd seriously consider voting otherwise is if someone runs on staying in the EU. The conservatives are trying to prevent brexit in my eyes, there is definitely something shady going on with them. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 9:11:48 GMT
You do pay for our health care .....and the astronomical cost of providing it is something people need to understand ...it's escalated to way above what the concept envisaged in 1945 ...the way the health service is funded has to be looked at in some detail before long because if people wish to see it remain at the very highest level of provision ...some kind of additional funds will need to be found to sustain it ......probably from the private sector in some ways Can I ask why you are so convinced that an effective National Health Service cannot be 100% funded by the taxpayer? Why do you feel that the private sector needs to be involved? Surely this will turn the NHS, which is free at the point of access for every UK citizen, into a profit centre for wealthy investors. Why are you recommending the introduction of private healthcare for UK citizens when some of our people are already using foodbanks? Have you been to the US? Have you observed the absolute mess their healthcare system is in? Do want an average prescription to go from £7.10 to over £60.00? Only an absolute fool, a super-rich fatcat or a brainwashed Tory idiot would want to see the NHS broken up and privatised. Which one are you Mr. Potter? Really you know the answers to all the questions that you ask ......but the reason is cost ....I didn't say that I was " convinced " either , I used the word " probably " and please stop calling me Mr Potter if you don't mind **************. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 9:13:20 GMT
For an alternative insight into the make up of how a socialist family runs ......Check out the Kinnock family ....serving the people . Except of course they're not socialists. But apart from that, yes Neil Kinnock would argue that he is and always has been boyo . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 9:17:27 GMT
The First time I've read any of their literature ....amusing to the level of some you might expect from the official opposition , all except 99 which is going too far Yes 99 is going too far......it only goes upto 98 from what I can see I like the one on women's footy..... "Women's football To get more men to watch women's football all players should have to swap shirts at the end of games (or better still, every time they kick the ball?) ". Sal would have a coronary Looks like I went too far as well .....98 is equally as bad though |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 26, 2017 9:21:22 GMT
Except of course they're not socialists. But apart from that, yes Neil Kinnock would argue that he is and always has been boyo . Neil Kinnock can say whatever he wants, it doesn't make it fact does it? If he said he was a lovely bloke and a great use of taxpayers' money, would he automatically be one? If he said he was a box of Ricicles, or a Cadbury's Mini Roll, would he automatically be one? Since when did people's own self-appraisal count as unbiased fact? Oh, that's right; whenever it fits your agenda |
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Post by britsabroad on Apr 26, 2017 9:42:41 GMT
This is a fairly simple election. There are no credible alternatives to the Tories this time. Best to vote them in with a large majority to get through Brexit as best as possible then hope for a real opposition in 2022. There only way I'd seriously consider voting otherwise is if someone runs on staying in the EU. Rubbish, i'm afraid. Absolute garbage. Keep peddling the message... Who else is a credible leader? There's no-one in the Labour party and I can't think of anyone else. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 9:48:07 GMT
This is a fairly simple election. There are no credible alternatives to the Tories this time. Best to vote them in with a large majority to get through Brexit as best as possible then hope for a real opposition in 2022. There only way I'd seriously consider voting otherwise is if someone runs on staying in the EU.Like the liberals?  |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 26, 2017 10:03:09 GMT
Can I ask why you are so convinced that an effective National Health Service cannot be 100% funded by the taxpayer? Why do you feel that the private sector needs to be involved? Surely this will turn the NHS, which is free at the point of access for every UK citizen, into a profit centre for wealthy investors. Why are you recommending the introduction of private healthcare for UK citizens when some of our people are already using foodbanks? Have you been to the US? Have you observed the absolute mess their healthcare system is in? Do want an average prescription to go from £7.10 to over £60.00? Only an absolute fool, a super-rich fatcat or a brainwashed Tory idiot would want to see the NHS broken up and privatised. Which one are you Mr. Potter? Really you know the answers to all the questions that you ask ......but the reason is cost ....I didn't say that I was " convinced " either , I used the word " probably " and please stop calling me Mr Potter if you don't mind **************. Seems to know you quite well, have you been introduced before?. |
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