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Post by neworleanstokie on Apr 24, 2017 12:46:43 GMT
We'll be watching here live on Showtime. At 5pm et I may be able to stay awake for this one! Joshua by KO inside of 3 for me.
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Post by flea79 on Apr 24, 2017 13:24:44 GMT
We'll be watching here live on Showtime. At 5pm et I may be able to stay awake for this one! Joshua by KO inside of 3 for me. Cant see past AJ for this one, its nice to see a "big" fight coming up with no theatrics outside of the ring, let the boxing do the work, the way it should be
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Post by serpico on Apr 24, 2017 14:37:57 GMT
I think Klitchkos ring savvy will be the difference, stylistically AJ seems tailer made for him. AJ stands flat footed, he doesn't have much head movement, he walks forward in straight lines, compared to Tyson Fury, AJ is a very orthodox boxer, the type WK can jab at will from the other side of the ring.
I'm still on the fence about just how good Joshua is, there's no doubt he has power and maybe that will be the leveller here ? but as the man says himself, boxing is about levels, AJ hasn't shared the ring with anyone anywhere near Klitchkos level (sparring doesn't count)
Prediction: Klitschko wins in the 8th round after softening AJ up with his jab. I'm not saying AJ can't win it, he could get lucky and KO WK, but i think Klitchkos experience will be the difference, he's seen AJs style before, he' no Tyson Fury.
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Post by agingerstokie on Apr 24, 2017 14:45:14 GMT
I think the fact that they've sparred with each other will make this an interesting fight as both will have to have some plan to counter what they know is there
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 14:52:26 GMT
I think Klitchkos ring savvy will be the difference, stylistically AJ seems tailer made for him. AJ stands flat footed, he doesn't have much head movement, he walks forward in straight lines, compared to Tyson Fury, AJ is a very orthodox boxer, the type WK can jab at will from the other side of the ring. I'm still on the fence about just how good Joshua is, there's no doubt he has power and maybe that will be the leveller here ? but as the man says himself, boxing is about levels, AJ hasn't shared the ring with anyone anywhere near Klitchkos level (sparring doesn't count) Prediction: Klitschko wins in the 8th round after softening AJ up with his jab. I'm not saying AJ can't win it, he could get lucky and KO WK, but i think Klitchkos experience will be the difference, he's seen AJs style before, he' no Tyson Fury. Inclined to agree with all of that. Heart says Joshua but head say Klitschko. Joshua will need more than a 6 pack and brute strength for this one, hope I'm wrong but my gut feeling is he'll get outfoxed.....
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 24, 2017 16:12:13 GMT
I think Klitchkos ring savvy will be the difference, stylistically AJ seems tailer made for him. AJ stands flat footed, he doesn't have much head movement, he walks forward in straight lines, compared to Tyson Fury, AJ is a very orthodox boxer, the type WK can jab at will from the other side of the ring. I'm still on the fence about just how good Joshua is, there's no doubt he has power and maybe that will be the leveller here ? but as the man says himself, boxing is about levels, AJ hasn't shared the ring with anyone anywhere near Klitchkos level (sparring doesn't count) Prediction: Klitschko wins in the 8th round after softening AJ up with his jab. I'm not saying AJ can't win it, he could get lucky and KO WK, but i think Klitchkos experience will be the difference, he's seen AJs style before, he' no Tyson Fury. Agreed Serpico. It's a tough call for me, because there's no doubt AJ isn't the finished article and WK has obviously passed his peak. If WK can do what he and his brother have done countless times before and hold AJ off with his jab and mummy impression, I think AJ will really struggle to land anything of any real purpose. However, holding off AJ is not going to be easy, simply because he is so big and powerful.
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Post by serpico on Apr 24, 2017 16:44:50 GMT
I think Klitchkos ring savvy will be the difference, stylistically AJ seems tailer made for him. AJ stands flat footed, he doesn't have much head movement, he walks forward in straight lines, compared to Tyson Fury, AJ is a very orthodox boxer, the type WK can jab at will from the other side of the ring. I'm still on the fence about just how good Joshua is, there's no doubt he has power and maybe that will be the leveller here ? but as the man says himself, boxing is about levels, AJ hasn't shared the ring with anyone anywhere near Klitchkos level (sparring doesn't count) Prediction: Klitschko wins in the 8th round after softening AJ up with his jab. I'm not saying AJ can't win it, he could get lucky and KO WK, but i think Klitchkos experience will be the difference, he's seen AJs style before, he' no Tyson Fury. Agreed Serpico. It's a tough call for me, because there's no doubt AJ isn't the finished article and WK has obviously passed his peak. If WK can do what he and his brother have done countless times before and hold AJ off with his jab and mummy impression, I think AJ will really struggle to land anything of any real purpose. However, holding off AJ is not going to be easy, simply because he is so big and powerful. It is a really intriguing fight with lots of unknowns, has Klitchko aged and deteriorated or was he just simply beaten by a technically brilliant Fury last time out ? is AJ actually any good ? we know he can punch but you need more than just a punch at world level, how will AJs chin hold up ? he was rocked by Dillian whyte, Klitschko punches way more accurately and more powerfully than Whyte! it's crazy to think a fighter who is still largely untested has sold out wembley stadium with 90,000 expected! testament to Eddie Hearns hype machine i suppose, AJ has essentially only faced bums and British level fighter thus far, but maybe he's not all hype ? we still don't know, he looks the part, but so did David Price for a awhile until he stepped up a level, then he got exposed badly. i could easily be wrong, maybe AJs freakish power will be enough to over come all his other disadvantages, but usually when you hit a certain level you need more than power.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 21:31:50 GMT
Very intriguing fight but one that I simply can't see AJ losing. Klitschko been out of the ring for a long time, and will be 41. Inactivity and age will surely count against him. I can see AJ blasting him out convincingly. If klitschko had a warm up fight to get his timing back I may feel different but for me it's all systems go for AJ to blast him out early
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2017 1:31:46 GMT
Very intriguing fight but one that I simply can't see AJ losing. Klitschko been out of the ring for a long time, and will be 41. Inactivity and age will surely count against him. I can see AJ blasting him out convincingly. If klitschko had a warm up fight to get his timing back I may feel different but for me it's all systems go for AJ to blast him out early I tend to agree. Very rarely does a fighter of Vlad's age beat a young up and comer. Vlad struggled to pull the trigger against Fury and that is usually a sign of a shot fighter(think Louis against Charles). That said I don't totally right Vlad off due to his power. It's just a question of how much of it he's retained?
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 25, 2017 9:29:48 GMT
Can anyone advise what time the main big fight might start?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 25, 2017 10:44:00 GMT
I managed to get a ticket for this and I'm buzzing for it, I think it really could go either way although I do like Joshua's chances. It should be a very interesting fight.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Apr 25, 2017 12:17:57 GMT
Can anyone advise what time the main big fight might start? Joe when a UK fight is shown here we usually go straight to the main event after some color commentary. I would guess the fight would start 530pm-6pm et. (New York time).
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 25, 2017 13:12:42 GMT
Can anyone advise what time the main big fight might start? Joe when a UK fight is shown here we usually go straight to the main event after some color commentary. I would guess the fight would start 530pm-6pm et. (New York time). That's not too bad for us.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 25, 2017 14:14:44 GMT
Very intriguing fight but one that I simply can't see AJ losing. Klitschko been out of the ring for a long time, and will be 41. Inactivity and age will surely count against him. I can see AJ blasting him out convincingly. If klitschko had a warm up fight to get his timing back I may feel different but for me it's all systems go for AJ to blast him out early I tend to agree. Very rarely does a fighter of Vlad's age beat a young up and comer. Vlad struggled to pull the trigger against Fury and that is usually a sign of a shot fighter(think Louis against Charles). That said I don't totally right Vlad off due to his power. It's just a question of how much of it he's retained? I think Klitschko still has power and I think he struggled against Fury purely because Fury is so unorthodox he didn't know what to do with him rather than being a shot fighter. That being said I fancy Joshua to end it early but if he doesn't and it goes into the later stages that this could favour Wlad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 16:46:35 GMT
Easy AJ win. Klitschko doesn't have the tools to beat him.
They usually do a price boost on KO inside 60 seconds. I'd stick a bit on but I think they'll spend the first 2 rounds kissing each other and tickling each others backs out of "respect". Anyway, I'm ff to Wembley to see it and I can;t wait.
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Apr 25, 2017 21:33:46 GMT
Speed and reaction time will win this. The younger man.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Apr 25, 2017 21:38:03 GMT
Mmm I hope Joshua wins because I like his potential.... but I've noticed Klitschkov is looking much more in shape and stepped up his training this time... I think he wants to go out on a high!
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 27, 2017 7:29:47 GMT
Be amazed if Klitschko survives beyond R2. 41 is not the age to be squaring up to a beast like AJ. Almost a mismatch in my book!
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 27, 2017 11:53:28 GMT
Does anyone know of any streams it might be on?
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Post by stokebloke on Apr 27, 2017 14:57:07 GMT
I reckon the foreign geezer will win it..I'd say within 5 rounds.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Apr 28, 2017 11:56:43 GMT
Joe when a UK fight is shown here we usually go straight to the main event after some color commentary. I would guess the fight would start 530pm-6pm et. (New York time). That's not too bad for us. Fight is now on at 415pm et. Showtime.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 12:23:18 GMT
First fight I watched was Ali vs Cooper in 1966, this has the same ring to it with the young gun vs the old defender.
Should be a great fight I'm going with Joshua in round 5 TKO with Klitschko cut above the eye. There have been rumors of an eye socket injury but they may be a smoke screen of course.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 28, 2017 14:23:45 GMT
Easy AJ win. Klitschko doesn't have the tools to beat him. They usually do a price boost on KO inside 60 seconds. I'd stick a bit on but I think they'll spend the first 2 rounds kissing each other and tickling each others backs out of "respect". Anyway, I'm ff to Wembley to see it and I can;t wait. Be amazed if Klitschko survives beyond R2. 41 is not the age to be squaring up to a beast like AJ. Almost a mismatch in my book! Bloody hell lads. Steady on. It's heavyweight boxing, so Joshua could spark him within a minute, but to suggest Klitschko does have the tools to beat Joshua (or anyone) or to suggest it's a mismatch is a but much...
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 28, 2017 14:55:54 GMT
Easy AJ win. Klitschko doesn't have the tools to beat him. They usually do a price boost on KO inside 60 seconds. I'd stick a bit on but I think they'll spend the first 2 rounds kissing each other and tickling each others backs out of "respect". Anyway, I'm ff to Wembley to see it and I can;t wait. Be amazed if Klitschko survives beyond R2. 41 is not the age to be squaring up to a beast like AJ. Almost a mismatch in my book! Bloody hell lads. Steady on. It's heavyweight boxing, so Joshua could spark him within a minute, but to suggest Klitschko does have the tools to beat Joshua (or anyone) or to suggest it's a mismatch is a but much... Wait and see! I might be wrong but...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 16:16:27 GMT
Easy AJ win. Klitschko doesn't have the tools to beat him. They usually do a price boost on KO inside 60 seconds. I'd stick a bit on but I think they'll spend the first 2 rounds kissing each other and tickling each others backs out of "respect". Anyway, I'm ff to Wembley to see it and I can;t wait. Be amazed if Klitschko survives beyond R2. 41 is not the age to be squaring up to a beast like AJ. Almost a mismatch in my book! Bloody hell lads. Steady on. It's heavyweight boxing, so Joshua could spark him within a minute, but to suggest Klitschko does have the tools to beat Joshua (or anyone) or to suggest it's a mismatch is a but much... What I mean is he's not a big puncher, he's not quick, he's not exceptionally big, he's quite flat footed and relies on his jab. He also likes to hold. These are non of the skills I'd want if I was fighting Joshua. He looks in terrific shape but I'm not sure he'll be able to evade Joshua's power punches for more than 3 or 4 rounds and once he lands it'll be the same story as his previous 18 fights. Goodnight.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 28, 2017 17:01:38 GMT
What I mean is he's not a big puncher, he's not quick, he's not exceptionally big, he's quite flat footed and relies on his jab. He also likes to hold. These are non of the skills I'd want if I was fighting Joshua. He looks in terrific shape but I'm not sure he'll be able to evade Joshua's power punches for more than 3 or 4 rounds and once he lands it'll be the same story as his previous 18 fights. Goodnight. 53 kos in 64 wins at several levels above anything joshua has faced suggests he can punch. If whyte stunned him, he wont want to walk onto too many of wlad's shots! ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 17:23:25 GMT
What I mean is he's not a big puncher, he's not quick, he's not exceptionally big, he's quite flat footed and relies on his jab. He also likes to hold. These are non of the skills I'd want if I was fighting Joshua. He looks in terrific shape but I'm not sure he'll be able to evade Joshua's power punches for more than 3 or 4 rounds and once he lands it'll be the same story as his previous 18 fights. Goodnight. 53 kos in 64 wins at several levels above anything joshua has faced suggests he can punch. If whyte stunned him, he wont want to walk onto too many of wlad's shots! ;-) True, his record's not to be sniffed at and we don't really know much about Joshua's chin. There are rumours that the lad on the undercard dropped him in sparring. I hope it's a decent fight. But in all fairness, I don't think Wlad has boxer any genuinely good boxers in his 10 year reign...
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Post by Dutchpeter on Apr 28, 2017 17:50:52 GMT
Boxing News says AJ on points. Other comments in BN this week generally say Klitch is too old/inactive and AJ is younger, stronger, quicker, fitter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 18:02:57 GMT
Vlad looks in the shape of his life, it's the lightest he's come in since 2009 and his hands look quicker then they have over the last few years...but he's not fought since getting messed around by Fury for 12 rounds 17 months ago. His footwork looks sluggish to me.
Joshua is his heaviest. I expected him to maybe drop a bit of his size but clearly that's not in his plans He looks light on his feet though. As always though the question is if it goes into the later rounds, has he got the stamina to keep his muscular frame working hard or will he fade?
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 28, 2017 19:27:23 GMT
Theres a couple of very good reads on the ring magazine website.
One of them they ask 30 people involved in boxing for their opinions. 29 go for Josh.
The best quote in my humble was a guy who pointed out that Wlad always looks in great shape, but its the stuff on the inside that you cant see thats important for a guy in his situation. The will to win, to dig deep and get down in the trenches. The nerve reactions that just slow your head movement or speed of your punches at a pace that us mortals wouldnt notice, but which are very real for elite fighters.
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