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Post by essexstokey on May 9, 2017 21:01:18 GMT
Theresa must be feeling so sorry for Labour, that she's come out as pro fox hunting, and she's going to allow a "free vote" on the subject with what will probably be a large Tory majority. This is exactly the sort of thing that having weak opposition allows. "free vote"? Some "free vote" when we all know what the outcome will be! Why not let the unspeakable pursue the uneatable. In this modern world, what's wrong with a horde of rich toffs on big horses with loads of hungry dogs chasing a fox until it is exhausted, ripping its guts out? It's not like the United Kingdom is a violent, uncivilised country, is it? A vote for Chicken May is a vote to turn the clock back to the 1950s. Fox hunting, grammar schools almost any crackpot right-wing idea will be on the agenda. Money from poor people paying V.A.T. subsidising the well-off not just on housing subsidies but care for the elderly too! There's nothing this disgusting lot won't do if they're given a massive majority! Why do you think they wont us out of Europe and the Human rights act oh to achieve this without any outside interference to stop there right wing policies
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 9:35:36 GMT
Labour to change their campaign slogan after Abbott and now Rayner interview today to
"For the many not the few, we're just not sure how many"
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Post by essexstokey on May 10, 2017 9:43:57 GMT
Labour to change their campaign slogan after Abbott and now Rayner interview today to "For the many not the few, we're just not sure how many" where the Tories is for the few not the many!! Conservatives putting the CON in this election !!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 10, 2017 9:52:24 GMT
Labour going to scrap tuition fee's "once and for all".....
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 9:59:39 GMT
Labour to change their campaign slogan after Abbott and now Rayner interview today to "For the many not the few, we're just not sure how many" where the Tories is for the few not the many!! Conservatives putting the CON in this election !! You know that doesn't make sense LOLabour
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 10, 2017 10:02:21 GMT
Man the barricades ..... here come the Molotov cocktails......
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 10, 2017 10:04:56 GMT
Man the barricades ..... here come the Molotov cocktails...... Another victory for the Establishment.
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 10:05:00 GMT
Well that's a surprise to anyone who reads the Canary but to everyone else as I have said consistently this was going to be the outcome.
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 10:06:49 GMT
Man the barricades ..... here come the Molotov cocktails...... Another victory for the Establishment. You realise Labour, Lib Dems and SNP were all fined for this.
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Post by essexstokey on May 10, 2017 10:13:09 GMT
Well that's a surprise to anyone who reads the Canary but to everyone else as I have said consistently this was going to be the outcome. Still shows the Tories cant be trusted and that they try to buy elections look at the 1 million they spent on the mayoral race in west midlands, lets also guess judges, barristers, etc how many don't support the Tories?? The fact is they Did put in False accounts which is proven on all counts (as fined by electoral commission) the only thing that was missing was that they did not have proof that they knowingly did it at local level as they were told to do it at national level.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 10, 2017 10:21:39 GMT
So reading the judgement it seems the only reason no charges were brought is that Tory HQ lied to its own candidates!!
Establishment 1 Every Fucker Else 0
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 10:25:55 GMT
Well that's a surprise to anyone who reads the Canary but to everyone else as I have said consistently this was going to be the outcome. Still shows the Tories cant be trusted and that they try to buy elections look at the 1 million they spent on the mayoral race in west midlands, lets also guess judges, barristers, etc how many don't support the Tories?? The fact is they Did put in False accounts which is proven on all counts (as fined by electoral commission) the only thing that was missing was that they did not have proof that they knowingly did it at local level as they were told to do it at national level. As did Labour, Lib Dems and SNP who were also fined. I posted this when the story first broke enjoy stage 3 especially you who claimed this was the reason for the election being called It's not all bad news I can exclusively reveal Labour have already held Tower Hamlets with a record 137% of the vote
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 10:28:39 GMT
So reading the judgement it seems the only reason no charges were brought is that Tory HQ lied to its own candidates!! Establishment 1 Every Fucker Else 0 Your favourite Marillion album by any chance
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 11:12:08 GMT
Jeremy just wittering on about money not being able to buy power, that would be the day after a Unite official was made candidate for a safe Liverpool seat against the wishes of the local party coincidentally on the same day as Unite made a large donation to Labour
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 10, 2017 11:13:18 GMT
So reading the judgement it seems the only reason no charges were brought is that Tory HQ lied to its own candidates!! Establishment 1 Every Fucker Else 0 Your favourite Marillion album by any chance I used to live down the road from that pub
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 10, 2017 11:25:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:43:41 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 12:20:55 GMT
I'm surprised the boards moral compass Nicholas is not all over this. Jeremy who is campaigning against people not paying their fair share of tax, wants Gary Lineker who has invested in a number of aggressive tax avoidance schemes that HMRC have ruled against to be an MP, hypocrisy much Labour soon to be the party of the few not the many
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 12:22:21 GMT
Labour the party of the few who don't know how many
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Post by essexstokey on May 10, 2017 12:46:07 GMT
Labour the party of the few who don't know how many The Tories the party of the greedy run by the few for the few!!!
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Post by salopstick on May 10, 2017 14:11:17 GMT
How will labour pay for scrapping tutition fees
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 10, 2017 14:25:35 GMT
How will labour pay for scrapping tutition fees Taxes of course Free school dinners for all. Free education. Free childcare. Free hospital parking. One million council houses. Buying out all the Rail companies. Taxes. CGT, VAT on school fee's, more tax for those earning more than £80,000 (funny how MP's are on 75K ). Anyway, taxes. It's the way forward apparently. All will be revealed in their manifesto, say the Marx Brothers.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 10, 2017 14:47:32 GMT
Has any party said how they're going to save us billions per year by scrapping the foreign aid budget yet? All that ever does is end up in the wrong hands... Although it is one of those lovely "look at me, aren't I so nice & caring" tools, so nodoubt all the parties want to increase it instead.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 10, 2017 15:01:53 GMT
Has any party said how they're going to save us billions per year by scrapping the foreign aid budget yet? All that ever does is end up in the wrong hands... Although it is one of those lovely "look at me, aren't I so nice & caring" tools, so nodoubt all the parties want to increase it instead. You think all foreign aid "ends up in the wrong hands"?
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2017 15:58:09 GMT
How will labour pay for scrapping tutition fees Taxes of course Free school dinners for all. Free education. Free childcare. Free hospital parking. One million council houses. Buying out all the Rail companies. Taxes. CGT, VAT on school fee's, more tax for those earning more than £80,000 (funny how MP's are on 75K ). Anyway, taxes. It's the way forward apparently. All will be revealed in their manifesto, say the Marx Brothers. The thing is I believe those brilliant value for money PFI contracts prohibit the axing of car parking charges wonder which party signed all those. The method of paying for this, taxing private health care is genius too, make it more expensive for companies and they may axe it so more demand for the NHS or if they keep it it's then a higher benefit in kind, fine if you're a CEO but where i'm contracting now they give it to all permanent staff and that will make a big difference to lower paid staff.
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Post by essexstokey on May 10, 2017 16:23:31 GMT
How will labour pay for scrapping tutition fees By taxing the tory rich who have got away with it for to long with tax cuts/ tax avoidance with the government just focussed on giving them benefits The Tories the Sherriff's of Nottingham!! Take from the poor give to the rich!
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Post by essexstokey on May 10, 2017 16:26:14 GMT
Buying out all the Rail companies. You don't need to buy them out you just let the franchises run out only investment then is in New or second hand trains!!
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2017 16:35:40 GMT
How will labour pay for scrapping tutition fees By taxing the tory rich who have got away with it for to long with tax cuts/ tax avoidance with the government just focussed on giving them benefits The Tories the Sherriff's of Nottingham!! Take from the poor give to the rich! Are you only taxing the Tory rich? What about rich labour people? There quite a few of them. Good old Len McCluskey, for example, pulls in a healthy six figure salary (plus benefits). Oh - and are you familiar with the Laffer Curve? It's a useful idea to bear in mind when considering raising increased revenue through higher taxation.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 10, 2017 16:51:02 GMT
By taxing the tory rich who have got away with it for to long with tax cuts/ tax avoidance with the government just focussed on giving them benefits The Tories the Sherriff's of Nottingham!! Take from the poor give to the rich! Are you only taxing the Tory rich? What about rich labour people? There quite a few of them. Good old Len McCluskey, for example, pulls in a healthy six figure salary (plus benefits). Oh - and are you familiar with the Laffer Curve? It's a useful idea to bear in mind when considering raising increased revenue through higher taxation. What are your thoughts about the outlook North of the border, Patrick?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 10, 2017 17:36:22 GMT
Anyone any suggestions for radical policies ( sensible or otherwise). Other than the stance on Brexit, which I am hoping will be the decisive factor, I mainly seem to be hearing" tweaking" ----tax this to promise that. Electoral reform is important to me but I wish that one party would address student loans. I think that an argument could be made that mis-selling has occurred on a par with PSI ( Supposedly).I think that the interest rates are 3% above base...unbelievable in today's climate and many people were unaware of this, and had little choice anyway. I think that it is utterly immoral to inflict lifelong debt onto the younger generation. To create a culture in which it is acceptable to take on huge debts is scandalous., particularly when we are a country that lives in debt. Much of the debt will not actually be paid and political expediency has simply kicked the issue into the long grass for others to deal with. If the debt could not be retrospectively removed I think that it should be reduced to a nominal £1500 per year, with a nil interest/or base level perhaps with a commitment to start paying something back at lower salary rates or after 5 years in any scenario. Also for me I think it is unjust that Scottish students get the same deal for free...I understand devolution but something is wrong with the Barnett formula that doubly benefits the Scots. Such a policy could motivate the young vote, or/ and that of parents. www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jun/04/student-loans-really-were-mis-soldwww.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36388011www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/21/philip-hammond-can-save-students-from-scandalously-mis-sold-loan/Labour party manifesto pledges to end tuition fees and nationalise railways www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/labour-party-manifesto-pledges-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways?
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