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Post by Mendicant on Apr 22, 2017 11:42:47 GMT
Corbyn is advertising for prospective MP,s on twitter  Is Smurthwaite his spin doctor? |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2017 11:43:23 GMT
Woodwork CSE , however I have done what most economists never do . I've run a large and complex business very profitably for international companies and for myself so I have some experience Those that talk a good game v those that have played a good game Intellectuals. I shit em As an economist I would have thought trying to balance the books was pretty fundamental for any responsible government to achieve. Public spending is out of control . Working tax credits and a host of other spending commitments introduced in recent times are crippling our economy |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 11:54:56 GMT
Real reason for May calling the election and making the statement on Monday that some would have missed
On Monday 14 Police forces sent evidence to the CPS about 14 Conservative MPS fiddling there election expenses THATS 14 by making this statement on this day she hoped to hide this news. If all were disbarred from parliament she would have no majority and have to seek a coalition she then hid these even more by hiding the fact in that it was to give her a stronger mandate (which she had already got
People forget to soon this is the party of tax cuts for the rich, selling off of national assets to there friends in the city, cash for questions, expenses scandals, hitting the poor in society with benefit cuts and tax rises, quite a few of them have additional jobs than that of an MP paying them a lot of money on the side look at George Osborne he had I think 7 jobs (reported in press not sure how true)
This is not just a one off it go's back 30 or 40 years or more
They want to get rid of the Human rights act that protects you, they want to get rid of European Labour laws that defend the rights of workers because it will help them achieve there aim to send us back in time where bosses have the power and workers are 2nd class
How can anyone who is working class vote for theses proven crooks, who are out for the rich people and the corporate sponsors that support there party and get benefits for doing so.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 22, 2017 11:56:41 GMT
Those that talk a good game v those that have played a good game Intellectuals. I shit em As an economist I would have thought trying to balance the books was pretty fundamental for any responsible government to achieve. Public spending is out of control . Working tax credits and a host of other spending commitments introduced in recent times are crippling our economy Yes, but it was Osborne's policy of cutting income tax and expanding personal allowances that has partly reduced the tax take. I used to pay a very small amount of income tax but a couple of years ago I was taken out of paying this by the Tory Chancellor. So, it isn't just spending that is out of control(after 7 years of Tory Chancellors) but the tax take is down too for some people! But the real elephant in the room is Brexit. It was all going to be easy peasy, no problems, no difficulties, painless, costless. Yep, but inflation is at ca. 2.5% and rising to 3%. Living standards are falling again after the 2015 Osborne economic miracle. Hammond is facing a hell of a difficult task if the Tories are re-elected but they've been in power 7 years! If he's got a mess to deal with it's their mess! |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 12:00:23 GMT
Those that talk a good game v those that have played a good game Intellectuals. I shit em As an economist I would have thought trying to balance the books was pretty fundamental for any responsible government to achieve. Public spending is out of control . Working tax credits and a host of other spending commitments introduced in recent times are crippling our economy Yes and who got us in this mess the Bankers first of all by us having to bail out the banks from going bankrupt then the conservative government under them the National debt has doubled and is still rising they are still loaning money to pay the bills this is a government that said by now we should have the National debt under control and its still rising |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2017 12:02:07 GMT
As an economist I would have thought trying to balance the books was pretty fundamental for any responsible government to achieve. Public spending is out of control . Working tax credits and a host of other spending commitments introduced in recent times are crippling our economy Yes, but it was Osborne's policy of cutting income tax and expanding personal allowances that has partly reduced the tax take. I used to pay a very small amount of income tax but a couple of years ago I was taken out of paying this by the Tory Chancellor. So, it isn't just spending that is out of control(after 7 years of Tory Chancellors) but the tax take is down too for some people! But the real elephant in the room is Brexit. It was all going to be easy peasy, no problems, no difficulties, painless, costless. Yep, but inflation is at ca. 2.5% and rising to 3%. Living standards are falling again after the 2015 Osborne economic miracle. Hammond is facing a hell of a difficult task if the Tories are re-elected but they've been in power 7 years! If he's got a mess to deal with it's their mess! So what's wrong with taking people out of taxation all together , they also increased minimum wage , introduced free nursery care , and are this years doubling the free hours for families trying to get back to work . Free school meals for infants , how is that not trying to help the worse off in society ? You can't have it both ways |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2017 12:04:50 GMT
As an economist I would have thought trying to balance the books was pretty fundamental for any responsible government to achieve. Public spending is out of control . Working tax credits and a host of other spending commitments introduced in recent times are crippling our economy Yes and who got us in this mess the Bankers first of all by us having to bail out the banks from going bankrupt then the conservative government under them the National debt has doubled and is still rising they are still loaning money to pay the bills this is a government that said by now we should have the National debt under control and its still rising Gordon brown bailed out the banks |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 12:11:01 GMT
Yes, but it was Osborne's policy of cutting income tax and expanding personal allowances that has partly reduced the tax take. I used to pay a very small amount of income tax but a couple of years ago I was taken out of paying this by the Tory Chancellor. So, it isn't just spending that is out of control(after 7 years of Tory Chancellors) but the tax take is down too for some people! But the real elephant in the room is Brexit. It was all going to be easy peasy, no problems, no difficulties, painless, costless. Yep, but inflation is at ca. 2.5% and rising to 3%. Living standards are falling again after the 2015 Osborne economic miracle. Hammond is facing a hell of a difficult task if the Tories are re-elected but they've been in power 7 years! If he's got a mess to deal with it's their mess! So what's wrong with taking people out of taxation all together , they also increased minimum wage , introduced free nursery care , and are this years doubling the free hours for families trying to get back to work . Free school meals for infants , how is that not trying to help the worse off in society ? You can't have it both ways You'll find out that quite a few of those policies were from the coalition and that the conservatives had plans to scrap the free school meals, the free nursery care has been put on the PRIVATE providers and there are not enough of them and the amount they get from the government doesn't cover the costs, the national minimum wage was introduced by Labour so lets try again what have they done for the working class you have rising food cost, a lack of housing etc |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 22, 2017 12:13:57 GMT
Real reason for May calling the election and making the statement on Monday that some would have missed On Monday 14 Police forces sent evidence to the CPS about 14 Conservative MPS fiddling there election expenses THATS 14 by making this statement on this day she hoped to hide this news. If all were disbarred from parliament she would have no majority and have to seek a coalition she then hid these even more by hiding the fact in that it was to give her a stronger mandate (which she had already got People forget to soon this is the party of tax cuts for the rich, selling off of national assets to there friends in the city, cash for questions, expenses scandals, hitting the poor in society with benefit cuts and tax rises, quite a few of them have additional jobs than that of an MP paying them a lot of money on the side look at George Osborne he had I think 7 jobs (reported in press not sure how true) This is not just a one off it go's back 30 or 40 years or more They want to get rid of the Human rights act that protects you, they want to get rid of European Labour laws that defend the rights of workers because it will help them achieve there aim to send us back in time where bosses have the power and workers are 2nd class How can anyone who is working class vote for theses proven crooks, who are out for the rich people and the corporate sponsors that support there party and get benefits for doing so. Do you read the Canary, firstly the cases are over declarations of spending between local and national spending. All followed instructions from the National party who have already been fined just as the other parties have. No one was going to get disbarred and the files being passed to the CPS does not mean actual prosecutions. As for the rest blah de blah unfortunately for you far more pertinent is the fact that the general public (and his own party) just don't like Corbyn's clowns. You also missed out the Tories are going to privatise the NHS, 40 years of that bollocks isn't fooling anyone anymore. |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 12:14:55 GMT
Yes and who got us in this mess the Bankers first of all by us having to bail out the banks from going bankrupt then the conservative government under them the National debt has doubled and is still rising they are still loaning money to pay the bills this is a government that said by now we should have the National debt under control and its still rising Gordon brown bailed out the banks Yes he did and he bailed the conservative bankers out, If he hadn't have done all peoples savings would have gone, hitting all society including business this was the largest part of our national debt at the start and the conservatives added to it in there 7 years of government by blaming others instead of themselves our debt as a nation has more than doubled in 7 years !!!!! |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 22, 2017 12:15:36 GMT
Yes, but it was Osborne's policy of cutting income tax and expanding personal allowances that has partly reduced the tax take. I used to pay a very small amount of income tax but a couple of years ago I was taken out of paying this by the Tory Chancellor. So, it isn't just spending that is out of control(after 7 years of Tory Chancellors) but the tax take is down too for some people! But the real elephant in the room is Brexit. It was all going to be easy peasy, no problems, no difficulties, painless, costless. Yep, but inflation is at ca. 2.5% and rising to 3%. Living standards are falling again after the 2015 Osborne economic miracle. Hammond is facing a hell of a difficult task if the Tories are re-elected but they've been in power 7 years! If he's got a mess to deal with it's their mess! So what's wrong with taking people out of taxation all together , they also increased minimum wage , introduced free nursery care , and are this years doubling the free hours for families trying to get back to work . Free school meals for infants , how is that not trying to help the worse off in society ? You can't have it both ways Err, they didn't increase the minimum wage for workers at BHS, Austin Reed etc. etc. I think the path set by Osborne has been thrown out kilter by Brexit? Borrowing has shot up so that means cuts e.g. cuts to pension rises and increases in taxes e.g. in N.I.C.s.. So, Hammond is in a very difficult place. Look, Cameron never believed in a million years he would lose the Referendum? So,we as people and as a country have got totally unforeseen difficulties because who thought in 2014 we would out of the E.U. just 2 years later? |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 22, 2017 12:25:31 GMT
Yes and who got us in this mess the Bankers first of all by us having to bail out the banks from going bankrupt then the conservative government under them the National debt has doubled and is still rising they are still loaning money to pay the bills this is a government that said by now we should have the National debt under control and its still rising Gordon brown bailed out the banks After being asleep at the wheel. The run on the banks could have been avoided / greatly reduced if northern rock had been sold straight away to Lloyds or one of the other bidders but a decision to protect jobs in a Labour heartland before an election was judged more important. |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2017 12:27:59 GMT
So what's wrong with taking people out of taxation all together , they also increased minimum wage , introduced free nursery care , and are this years doubling the free hours for families trying to get back to work . Free school meals for infants , how is that not trying to help the worse off in society ? You can't have it both ways Err, they didn't increase the minimum wage for workers at BHS, Austin Reed etc. etc. I think the path set by Osborne has been thrown out kilter by Brexit? Borrowing has shot up so that means cuts e.g. cuts to pension rises and increases in taxes e.g. in N.I.C.s.. So, Hammond is in a very difficult place. Look, Cameron never believed in a million years he would lose the Referendum? So,we as people and as a country have got totally unforeseen difficulties because who thought in 2014 we would out of the E.U. just 2 years later? Of course it was a huge error in judgement by Cameron but it was only done to stop ukip eating into the Tory vote for the election in 2015 . The collapse of BHS was down to the greed of Green and his wife . However you look at the situation the debt and deficit has to be dealt with its growing as you say and labour have zero credibility in economic matters . Corbyn Has already said he wants to spend £500 billion . To be honest I'm not a capitalist and I want to see social provision for those in need but rampant socialism ultimately harms those very same people when the pieces have to be picked up |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 22, 2017 12:29:13 GMT
No, I'm talking as someone with degrees in economics? How many have you got to base your opinion on? I'll accept GCSE's! Just because you have a degree doesn't make you intelligent. In his case it makes you extremely condescending, painfully boring and not overly intelligent. |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 12:33:28 GMT
Real reason for May calling the election and making the statement on Monday that some would have missed On Monday 14 Police forces sent evidence to the CPS about 14 Conservative MPS fiddling there election expenses THATS 14 by making this statement on this day she hoped to hide this news. If all were disbarred from parliament she would have no majority and have to seek a coalition she then hid these even more by hiding the fact in that it was to give her a stronger mandate (which she had already got People forget to soon this is the party of tax cuts for the rich, selling off of national assets to there friends in the city, cash for questions, expenses scandals, hitting the poor in society with benefit cuts and tax rises, quite a few of them have additional jobs than that of an MP paying them a lot of money on the side look at George Osborne he had I think 7 jobs (reported in press not sure how true) This is not just a one off it go's back 30 or 40 years or more They want to get rid of the Human rights act that protects you, they want to get rid of European Labour laws that defend the rights of workers because it will help them achieve there aim to send us back in time where bosses have the power and workers are 2nd class How can anyone who is working class vote for theses proven crooks, who are out for the rich people and the corporate sponsors that support there party and get benefits for doing so. Do you read the Canary, firstly the cases are over declarations of spending between local and national spending. All followed instructions from the National party who have already been fined just as the other parties have. No one was going to get disbarred and the files being passed to the CPS does not mean actual prosecutions. As for the rest blah de blah unfortunately for you far more pertinent is the fact that the general public (and his own party) just don't like Corbyn's clowns. You also missed out the Tories are going to privatise the NHS, 40 years of that bollocks isn't fooling anyone anymore. The national party has been fined but if you check the press and the BBC you will find out that 14 individuals MPS have been reported by police for election finance irregularities which is an offence and if proven guilty they would have to be re-elections in those seats under the law. What do you mean the Tories are going to privatise the NHS they already have on some counts, they have also privatised Schools through the back doors with academies, did you know your kids may not be taught by a proper teacher in an academy as the government say its up to the head to decide if someone is capable and they may not have gone through teacher training, on the teaching side teachers also are having to work silly amount of hours in academies with no protection because that's how the conservatives wanted it to cut the costs. You also realise that when the coalition came to power one of the first things they did was make ICT not compulsory for schools to offer this is a vital skill for all in the modern world and in the world job market but the conservatives don't think so . They have made the arts and crafts subjects un attractive for schools to offer as well all in 7 years I am not a Corbin supporter and yes in the past have voted Labour but not in this election there are other parties and its up to each individual to look at the facts and see how they will vote |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 22, 2017 12:58:02 GMT
Do you read the Canary, firstly the cases are over declarations of spending between local and national spending. All followed instructions from the National party who have already been fined just as the other parties have. No one was going to get disbarred and the files being passed to the CPS does not mean actual prosecutions. As for the rest blah de blah unfortunately for you far more pertinent is the fact that the general public (and his own party) just don't like Corbyn's clowns. You also missed out the Tories are going to privatise the NHS, 40 years of that bollocks isn't fooling anyone anymore. The national party has been fined but if you check the press and the BBC you will find out that 14 individuals MPS have been reported by police for election finance irregularities which is an offence and if proven guilty they would have to be re-elections in those seats under the law. What do you mean the Tories are going to privatise the NHS they already have on some counts, they have also privatised Schools through the back doors with academies, did you know your kids may not be taught by a proper teacher in an academy as the government say its up to the head to decide if someone is capable and they may not have gone through teacher training, on the teaching side teachers also are having to work silly amount of hours in academies with no protection because that's how the conservatives wanted it to cut the costs. You also realise that when the coalition came to power one of the first things they did was make ICT not compulsory for schools to offer this is a vital skill for all in the modern world and in the world job market but the conservatives don't think so . They have made the arts and crafts subjects un attractive for schools to offer as well all in 7 years I am not a Corbin supporter and yes in the past have voted Labour but not in this election there are other parties and its up to each individual to look at the facts and see how they will vote I'm fully aware individual MP's have been reported, my point is they followed instructions on whether spending was national or local. In these circumstances unless it can be proved they knew this to be deliberately false, there is little chance of conviction and any conviction is extremely unlikely to result in a by election being called. Google David Allen Green and read him on electoral law when this first broke over 12 months ago. Labour privatised GP' s and left us paying fortunes under PFI for schools and hospitals we will never own and will be paying for over the next 20 years. Teachers silly hours bless only 12 weeks holiday a year to recover. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 13:09:49 GMT
Those that talk a good game v those that have played a good game Intellectuals. I shit em As an economist I would have thought trying to balance the books was pretty fundamental for any responsible government to achieve. Public spending is out of control . Working tax credits and a host of other spending commitments introduced in recent times are crippling our economy Maybe if they wanted to achieve that they'd abandon the neoliberal project. Not while they're doing quite so well out of it though, hey? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 13:12:10 GMT
Woodwork CSE , however I have done what most economists never do . I've run a large and complex business very profitably for international companies and for myself so I have some experience Those that talk a good game v those that have played a good game Intellectuals. I shit em Utterly terrifying. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 13:12:45 GMT
I also find it amazing how much virtue Signalling Champagne socialists there are in the celebrity world. Gary Lineker getting a massive hard on thinking about taxing all the rich without releasing his wages would be capped. The new Newspeak. |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 22, 2017 13:27:42 GMT
Just because you have a degree doesn't make you intelligent. In his case it makes you extremely condescending, painfully boring and not overly intelligent. Get a load of this weapon If he appears condescending carps, it's because you're a long way beneath him. And do us all a favour, yeah?: don't criticise others for being boring or lacking in intelligence. You're hardly in a position of strength. In fact even by EE standards, this post makes you one of the more hypocritical ballbags here, and one who's sorely lacking in self-awareness at that. Have a great weekend, pal |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 22, 2017 14:10:51 GMT
Take off those beer goggles and try to have a sensible debate , even the labour voters know they can't manage the economy . No, I'm talking as someone with degrees in economics? How many have you got to base your opinion on? I'll accept GCSE's! I've got a first class honours degree. Does make me proper clever like? |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 14:12:28 GMT
The national party has been fined but if you check the press and the BBC you will find out that 14 individuals MPS have been reported by police for election finance irregularities which is an offence and if proven guilty they would have to be re-elections in those seats under the law. What do you mean the Tories are going to privatise the NHS they already have on some counts, they have also privatised Schools through the back doors with academies, did you know your kids may not be taught by a proper teacher in an academy as the government say its up to the head to decide if someone is capable and they may not have gone through teacher training, on the teaching side teachers also are having to work silly amount of hours in academies with no protection because that's how the conservatives wanted it to cut the costs. You also realise that when the coalition came to power one of the first things they did was make ICT not compulsory for schools to offer this is a vital skill for all in the modern world and in the world job market but the conservatives don't think so . They have made the arts and crafts subjects un attractive for schools to offer as well all in 7 years I am not a Corbin supporter and yes in the past have voted Labour but not in this election there are other parties and its up to each individual to look at the facts and see how they will vote I'm fully aware individual MP's have been reported, my point is they followed instructions on whether spending was national or local. In these circumstances unless it can be proved they knew this to be deliberately false, there is little chance of conviction and any conviction is extremely unlikely to result in a by election being called. Google David Allen Green and read him on electoral law when this first broke over 12 months ago. Labour privatised GP' s and left us paying fortunes under PFI for schools and hospitals we will never own and will be paying for over the next 20 years. Teachers silly hours bless only 12 weeks holiday a year to recover. For one GPS are not privatised they still work for the NHS PFI yes this was needed as schools and Hospitals were crumbling after years of neglect from the conservatives and Labour tried to increase the standards of the buildings knocking down asbestos filled schools and hospitals and ones that were not fit for purpose, PFI was abused and yes some contracts signed that shouldn't have been but what other options were there if the government didn't have the money to pay!! Teachers 12 weeks holidays to recover ok exhaustion, marking, going into school to do work during holidays, working some nights till 12 or later, then getting in at 7 to help students before school, putting up with abuse both from students and parents, putting up with violence, changing government demands and changes to the curriculum all for no extra pay all to put up with misbehaving spoilt children in addition having to teach them right from wrong, not to bully, sex education social skills etc (all the role of a parent but not done by them) People complain when they have training or your kids are off, parents complain when they have to look after there little darlings and they palm this bad behaviour off to the class teacher no wonder so many are leaving the profession If the Job is so easy why don't you do it I think you'd probably have no hair left by the end of the first day. The teacher used to be respected and have a role in education now because of abusive parents, comedians, press, etc they are becoming abused attacked and threatened. Children know there rights but don't know there responsibilities and lie trap and abuse teachers to get there own way. SO teachers deserve there time off and if you don't think they do try doing there job!!! |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 22, 2017 17:26:07 GMT
I'm fully aware individual MP's have been reported, my point is they followed instructions on whether spending was national or local. In these circumstances unless it can be proved they knew this to be deliberately false, there is little chance of conviction and any conviction is extremely unlikely to result in a by election being called. Google David Allen Green and read him on electoral law when this first broke over 12 months ago. Labour privatised GP' s and left us paying fortunes under PFI for schools and hospitals we will never own and will be paying for over the next 20 years. Teachers silly hours bless only 12 weeks holiday a year to recover. For one GPS are not privatised they still work for the NHS PFI yes this was needed as schools and Hospitals were crumbling after years of neglect from the conservatives and Labour tried to increase the standards of the buildings knocking down asbestos filled schools and hospitals and ones that were not fit for purpose, PFI was abused and yes some contracts signed that shouldn't have been but what other options were there if the government didn't have the money to pay!! Teachers 12 weeks holidays to recover ok exhaustion, marking, going into school to do work during holidays, working some nights till 12 or later, then getting in at 7 to help students before school, putting up with abuse both from students and parents, putting up with violence, changing government demands and changes to the curriculum all for no extra pay all to put up with misbehaving spoilt children in addition having to teach them right from wrong, not to bully, sex education social skills etc (all the role of a parent but not done by them) People complain when they have training or your kids are off, parents complain when they have to look after there little darlings and they palm this bad behaviour off to the class teacher no wonder so many are leaving the profession If the Job is so easy why don't you do it I think you'd probably have no hair left by the end of the first day. The teacher used to be respected and have a role in education now because of abusive parents, comedians, press, etc they are becoming abused attacked and threatened. Children know there rights but don't know there responsibilities and lie trap and abuse teachers to get there own way. SO teachers deserve there time off and if you don't think they do try doing there job!!! BUPA and Virgin Care work for the NHS they are still privatised just like the vast majority of GP surgeries This is just the NHS, same again for Schools, how did we not have the money ? We we were always told what a great job Labour did of managing the economy pre crash now you say there was no money. As for teaching almost sounds like real job there except the 12 weeks holiday of course. |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 17:43:20 GMT
For one GPS are not privatised they still work for the NHS PFI yes this was needed as schools and Hospitals were crumbling after years of neglect from the conservatives and Labour tried to increase the standards of the buildings knocking down asbestos filled schools and hospitals and ones that were not fit for purpose, PFI was abused and yes some contracts signed that shouldn't have been but what other options were there if the government didn't have the money to pay!! Teachers 12 weeks holidays to recover ok exhaustion, marking, going into school to do work during holidays, working some nights till 12 or later, then getting in at 7 to help students before school, putting up with abuse both from students and parents, putting up with violence, changing government demands and changes to the curriculum all for no extra pay all to put up with misbehaving spoilt children in addition having to teach them right from wrong, not to bully, sex education social skills etc (all the role of a parent but not done by them) People complain when they have training or your kids are off, parents complain when they have to look after there little darlings and they palm this bad behaviour off to the class teacher no wonder so many are leaving the profession If the Job is so easy why don't you do it I think you'd probably have no hair left by the end of the first day. The teacher used to be respected and have a role in education now because of abusive parents, comedians, press, etc they are becoming abused attacked and threatened. Children know there rights but don't know there responsibilities and lie trap and abuse teachers to get there own way. SO teachers deserve there time off and if you don't think they do try doing there job!!! BUPA and Virgin Care work for the NHS they are still privatised just like the vast majority of GP surgeries This is just the NHS, same again for Schools, how did we not have the money ? We we were always told what a great job Labour did of managing the economy pre crash now you say there was no money. As for teaching almost sounds like real job there except the 12 weeks holiday of course. Your a moron if you think that the conditions for teachers are acceptable and should try teaching yourself but like May your probably to chicken Also to expand school buildings and Hospitals is a multi billion pound task because of the years of neglect from the conservatives schools that didn't have basic toilet facilities and were falling down around the pupils this type of investment Labour put in through PPI could not be afforded by that government because the Tories had sold off the family silver to give tax cuts to buy votes instead of investing in the infrastructure but the silver they sold off was sold off cheap and were still paying foir it in higher prices for basics we used to own |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 18:04:08 GMT
Changed their tune again from t'other day. Tories that is. Cannot trust any of em!
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 22, 2017 18:09:59 GMT
BUPA and Virgin Care work for the NHS they are still privatised just like the vast majority of GP surgeries This is just the NHS, same again for Schools, how did we not have the money ? We we were always told what a great job Labour did of managing the economy pre crash now you say there was no money. As for teaching almost sounds like real job there except the 12 weeks holiday of course. Your a moron if you think that the conditions for teachers are acceptable and should try teaching yourself but like May your probably to chicken Also to expand school buildings and Hospitals is a multi billion pound task because of the years of neglect from the conservatives schools that didn't have basic toilet facilities and were falling down around the pupils this type of investment Labour put in through PPI could not be afforded by that government because the Tories had sold off the family silver to give tax cuts to buy votes instead of investing in the infrastructure but the silver they sold off was sold off cheap and were still paying foir it in higher prices for basics we used to own Was it not you who started a thread about sexism and the hurling of personal insults. Seems like you are now getting into the swing of things, well done. |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2017 18:12:35 GMT
Your a moron if you think that the conditions for teachers are acceptable and should try teaching yourself but like May your probably to chicken Also to expand school buildings and Hospitals is a multi billion pound task because of the years of neglect from the conservatives schools that didn't have basic toilet facilities and were falling down around the pupils this type of investment Labour put in through PPI could not be afforded by that government because the Tories had sold off the family silver to give tax cuts to buy votes instead of investing in the infrastructure but the silver they sold off was sold off cheap and were still paying foir it in higher prices for basics we used to own Was it not you who started a thread about sexism and the hurling of personal insults. Seems like you are now getting into the swing of things, well done. You beat me to it mate , however hypocrites are welcome  |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 22, 2017 18:48:48 GMT
BUPA and Virgin Care work for the NHS they are still privatised just like the vast majority of GP surgeries This is just the NHS, same again for Schools, how did we not have the money ? We we were always told what a great job Labour did of managing the economy pre crash now you say there was no money. As for teaching almost sounds like real job there except the 12 weeks holiday of course. Your a moron if you think that the conditions for teachers are acceptable and should try teaching yourself but like May your probably to chicken Also to expand school buildings and Hospitals is a multi billion pound task because of the years of neglect from the conservatives schools that didn't have basic toilet facilities and were falling down around the pupils this type of investment Labour put in through PPI could not be afforded by that government because the Tories had sold off the family silver to give tax cuts to buy votes instead of investing in the infrastructure but the silver they sold off was sold off cheap and were still paying foir it in higher prices for basics we used to own I always find it funny when people call you an idiot or a moron whilst making basic grammatical errors, so for information purposes next time it's "You're a moron". But back to your point I simply don't accept your portrayal of a teachers life, some have it hard some have it very easy. As for trying teaching, basic economics with you is proving a challenging experience. So your argument about "PPI"  is that the government couldn't afford to pay for it in one go so instead pays 5-6 times as much, a bit like a mortgage where you never end up owning the house, that's real genius. Do you realise how much nonsense your argument is ? Labour used PFI as a means of off balance sheet financing, it allowed the pension thief to claim he was keeping national debt down and was meeting one of his golden rules of debt to GDP and allowed him to pretend he was financially competent, the truth came out a few years later with the there's no money left note. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 19:37:20 GMT
Just because you have a degree doesn't make you intelligent. In his case it makes you extremely condescending, painfully boring and not overly intelligent. I've got a degree mate but I don't feel the need to spout off about it. ( until now  ) not in economics though . |
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2017 19:38:11 GMT
Nearly one in ten (9%) teachers say the strain of their job has contributed to the breakup of a relationship in the last 12 months, a survey by the NASUWT, the largest teachers’ union in the UK, has found.
Over two thirds (68%) say their job prevents them from giving adequate time to their partner, family and friends and over half (58%) say their family and friends get fed up with the pressures that teaching puts on their relationship.
More than four out five (84%) teachers say that they frequently worry about work problems when they are not working and just 11% say they are able to relax at home. Over half (56%) say their job satisfaction has declined in the last 12 months.
Nearly six in ten (59%) say their job has adversely impacted on their mental health in the last 12 months and (52%) say it has had a detrimental impact on their physical health.
Teachers report turning to medication, alcohol, tobacco and caffeine to help them cope with their job, with 22% reporting increased use of alcohol, 22% increased use of caffeine and 5% increased use of tobacco to help them manage work-related stress.
12% say they have undergone counselling, 7% have used or increased their reliance on prescription drugs, 11% have used or increased their reliance on anti-depressants to help them cope and 4% have been admitted to hospital as a result of work-related illness. 2% of teachers say they have self-harmed as a result of work-related pressures.
The pressures of teaching are sapping teachers of their morale and energy with more than four out of five teachers (83%) saying their job has had an adverse impact on their wellbeing, over half (54%) saying they do not look forward to going to work and the same number saying they are often too worn down to give their job their best effort.
83% say they are too tired after work to enjoy the things they like to do and only 8% say they have the time and energy for hobbies.
Chris Keates, General Secretary of the NASUWT, said:
“It is clear that for too many teachers the job is taking an unacceptable toll on their health and wellbeing and that this is affecting all aspects of their personal and professional lives.
“If the majority of teachers are unable to relax away from work and feel constantly worn down and worried about work issues then their mental and physical health is inevitably going to suffer and they will not be able to give their best to the children they teach.
“Teachers are often made to feel that they are failing if they admit to experiencing stress, exhaustion or health problems in the workplace, yet concealing the problem inevitably makes it worse.
“Employers have responsibility for the mental health and wellbeing of their staff but few address this seriously.
“The NASUWT believes that all schools should be providing mental health first-aid, including an entitlement for staff to have access to professional counselling or cognitive behaviour therapy, in the interests not only of teachers, but also of pupils.
“However, prevention is better than cure and the driving factors behind the rise in teacher stress, including excessive workload and working hours, need to be effectively addressed by Government to tackle the growing epidemic of low morale, burnout and stress which is conspiring to make teaching an increasingly unattractive profession.”
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is that the government couldn't afford to pay for it in one go so instead pays 5-6 times as much, a bit like a mortgage where you never end up owning the house, that's real genius. 
) not in economics though .
