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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 6:26:31 GMT
That well known bastion of truth and impartiality YAHOO NEWS are running a story that a " Jobsworth" ( their words, not mine ) Policewoman confiscated 27 Daffodils that some bloke and his kids STOLE to give as a Mothers Day gift to their Mum and Nan. Well, firstly, why does this make her a Jobsworth, that is what she is paid to do, it's like calling a Pilot a jobsworth for flying a plane, or a Doctor a jobsworth for treating a patient. Secondly, these were flowers in a park, that did not belong to this bloke, and he is setting an appalling example to his kids in teaching them that it is okay to take what does not belong to them. So , well done to the WPC, and shame on the Father for being a prick, and I hope they prosecute you for theft. uk.yahoo.com/news/police-officer-confiscates-27-daffodils-from-children-who-picked-them-in-public-park-for-mothers-day-123209364.html |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 8:24:10 GMT
If the man gets a criminal record and loses his job, Johnny Taxpayer will have to pick up the tab his family will collect in benefits!
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 28, 2017 8:31:13 GMT
If the man gets a criminal record and loses his job, Johnny Taxpayer will have to pick up the tab his family will collect in benefits! So it's ok to mug you in the big scheme of things?  |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Mar 28, 2017 8:41:11 GMT
If the man gets a criminal record and loses his job, Johnny Taxpayer will have to pick up the tab his family will collect in benefits! And when he does get sacked the state will have taught this blokes kids the valuable lesson that stealing is wrong as opposed to the help yourself message they have been given by their thieving dad and in turn would probably have given to their own kids and so on and so forth. Edit: And why is he stealing them in the first place if he's got a job, why isn't he helping local businesses by spending a few quid. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 8:50:52 GMT
If the man gets a criminal record and loses his job, Johnny Taxpayer will have to pick up the tab his family will collect in benefits! And when he does get sacked the state will have taught this blokes kids the valuable lesson that stealing is wrong as opposed to the help yourself message they have been given by their thieving dad and in turn would probably have given to their own kids and so on and so forth. Edit: And why is he stealing them in the first place if he's got a job, why isn't he helping local businesses by spending a few quid. By the same token, I don't know a single driver who hasn't exceeded the speed limit at least once! By your logic we should criminalise every driver in the country to teach their kids it is dangerous to exceed the speeding limit? But hey ho, the good news is that H.M.Police are on performance related pay for convictions so they're onto a winner using your logic! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 8:56:09 GMT
And when he does get sacked the state will have taught this blokes kids the valuable lesson that stealing is wrong as opposed to the help yourself message they have been given by their thieving dad and in turn would probably have given to their own kids and so on and so forth. Edit: And why is he stealing them in the first place if he's got a job, why isn't he helping local businesses by spending a few quid. By the same token, I don't know a single driver who hasn't exceeded the speed limit at least once! By your logic we should criminalise every driver in the country to teach their kids it is dangerous to exceed the speeding limit? But hey ho, the good news is that H.M.Police are on performance related pay for convictions so they're onto a winner using your logic! Apologist general strikes again... So you think speeding and thieving are equal in terms of punishment...Have you ever done anything wrong... |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 8:59:37 GMT
By the same token, I don't know a single driver who hasn't exceeded the speed limit at least once! By your logic we should criminalise every driver in the country to teach their kids it is dangerous to exceed the speeding limit? But hey ho, the good news is that H.M.Police are on performance related pay for convictions so they're onto a winner using your logic! Apologist general strikes again... So you think speeding and thieving are equal in terms of punishment...Have you ever done anything wrong... I see you're now deciding unilaterally what should count as a criminal offence and what should not count as a criminal offence. They should make you a judge! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 9:03:47 GMT
Apologist general strikes again... So you think speeding and thieving are equal in terms of punishment...Have you ever done anything wrong... I see you're now deciding unilaterally what should count as a criminal offence and what should not count as a criminal offence. They should make you a judge! Well actually Judge Rinder, or is it Judge Grinder, speeding is not a criminal offence, however theft most certainly is. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Mar 28, 2017 9:10:57 GMT
And when he does get sacked the state will have taught this blokes kids the valuable lesson that stealing is wrong as opposed to the help yourself message they have been given by their thieving dad and in turn would probably have given to their own kids and so on and so forth. Edit: And why is he stealing them in the first place if he's got a job, why isn't he helping local businesses by spending a few quid. By the same token, I don't know a single driver who hasn't exceeded the speed limit at least once! By your logic we should criminalise every driver in the country to teach their kids it is dangerous to exceed the speeding limit? But hey ho, the good news is that H.M.Police are on performance related pay for convictions so they're onto a winner using your logic! Stealing is a criminal offence so you can't compare it to speeding, Nicky my boy you're starting to look a bit foolish again a bit like when Ange embarrassed you. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 9:22:21 GMT
By the same token, I don't know a single driver who hasn't exceeded the speed limit at least once! By your logic we should criminalise every driver in the country to teach their kids it is dangerous to exceed the speeding limit? But hey ho, the good news is that H.M.Police are on performance related pay for convictions so they're onto a winner using your logic! Stealing is a criminal offence so you can't compare it to speeding, Nicky my boy you're starting to look a bit foolish again a bit like when Ange embarrassed you. But dangerous driving is a criminal offence. How many drivers have exceeded the speeding limit and been dangerous too? Very many! So, my point about mass criminalisation remains valid as does my point about the financial gains H.M. Police have made out of it! Please leave Ange out of this? This is the same Tory who wanted people to vote for a party which a few weeks later slashed education spending in areas like Stoke! You Tories are a permanent embarrassment to yourself! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:05:14 GMT
NJA...How on earth can you bring so many variants into this conversation when the Rain Forests are literally been destroyed, and Panda Bears are virtually being wiped from the face of the planet.
And I actually think the Large Hadron Collider is messing with dark magic that I fear that we simply cannot control.
And while we are talking about Daffodils, do you think eventually we will have to give up the Falklands, and indeed Gibraltar.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 10:14:49 GMT
NJA...How on earth can you bring so many variants into this conversation when the Rain Forests are literally been destroyed, and Panda Bears are virtually being wiped from the face of the planet. And I actually think the Large Hadron Collider is messing with dark magic that I fear that we simply cannot control. And while we are talking about Daffodils, do you think eventually we will have to give up the Falklands, and indeed Gibraltar. Well, 'shanghai' last year on my private estate on which I have designated responsibility for the gardener, a resident 1. vandalised plants 2. stole plants 3. vandalised even more plants using a strimmer. I reported this to the police and have a Crime Reference Number. But, nothing was done! This gentleman has a criminal record which makes Khalid Massood look like an angel but in deference to your sensitivities I won't mention which of the three services he once served in! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:18:19 GMT
NJA...How on earth can you bring so many variants into this conversation when the Rain Forests are literally been destroyed, and Panda Bears are virtually being wiped from the face of the planet. And I actually think the Large Hadron Collider is messing with dark magic that I fear that we simply cannot control. And while we are talking about Daffodils, do you think eventually we will have to give up the Falklands, and indeed Gibraltar. Well, 'shanghai' last year on my private estate on which I have designated responsibility for the gardener, a resident 1. vandalised plants 2. stole plants 3. vandalised even more plants using a strimmer. I reported this to the police and have a Crime Reference Number. But, nothing was done! This gentleman has a criminal record which makes Khalid Massood look like an angel but in deference to your sensitivities I won't mention which of the three services he once served in! Was he also in possession of a loud shirt in a built up area. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:20:17 GMT
NJA...How on earth can you bring so many variants into this conversation when the Rain Forests are literally been destroyed, and Panda Bears are virtually being wiped from the face of the planet. And I actually think the Large Hadron Collider is messing with dark magic that I fear that we simply cannot control. And while we are talking about Daffodils, do you think eventually we will have to give up the Falklands, and indeed Gibraltar. Well, 'shanghai' last year on my private estate on which I have designated responsibility for the gardener, a resident 1. vandalised plants 2. stole plants 3. vandalised even more plants using a strimmer. I reported this to the police and have a Crime Reference Number. But, nothing was done! This gentleman has a criminal record which makes Khalid Massood look like an angel but in deference to your sensitivities I won't mention which of the three services he once served in! And i'm gonna guess he served in The Army, the same as you and your tree hugging chum ALF.....The Salvation Army... |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 10:30:57 GMT
Well, 'shanghai' last year on my private estate on which I have designated responsibility for the gardener, a resident 1. vandalised plants 2. stole plants 3. vandalised even more plants using a strimmer. I reported this to the police and have a Crime Reference Number. But, nothing was done! This gentleman has a criminal record which makes Khalid Massood look like an angel but in deference to your sensitivities I won't mention which of the three services he once served in! Was he also in possession of a loud shirt in a built up area. No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 10:34:40 GMT
Well, 'shanghai' last year on my private estate on which I have designated responsibility for the gardener, a resident 1. vandalised plants 2. stole plants 3. vandalised even more plants using a strimmer. I reported this to the police and have a Crime Reference Number. But, nothing was done! This gentleman has a criminal record which makes Khalid Massood look like an angel but in deference to your sensitivities I won't mention which of the three services he once served in! And i'm gonna guess he served in The Army, the same as you and your tree hugging chum ALF.....The Salvation Army... More than the thirty years after leaving, he still hangs a flag with 'STOKER' on it, in his bathroom. I'm sure you can work it out from there? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:35:38 GMT
Was he also in possession of a loud shirt in a built up area. No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! And then done him for speeding and banged him up with yr mate for a long stretch... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:38:12 GMT
And i'm gonna guess he served in The Army, the same as you and your tree hugging chum ALF.....The Salvation Army... More than the thirty years after leaving, he still hangs a flag with 'STOKER' on it, in his bathroom. I'm sure you can work it out from there? He is either dyslexic or stupid. STOKER...STOKIE...STONKER... If the cap fits...Wear it... I guess you thought it was STONKER which is what first attracted you to him. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 10:41:16 GMT
No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! And then done him for speeding and banged him up with yr mate for a long stretch... No, I was arguing against mass criminalisation saying where does it stop? As for the gentleman concerned, last year a neighbour told me he was in 'Her Majesty's Hotel' and to my knowledge they don't allow driving cars in Belmarsh! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:42:23 GMT
Was he also in possession of a loud shirt in a built up area. No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! What a croc of shit, how long did he get for stabbing a Police Officer, I'd guess min of 15 years...And you have lived with him for 30 years, and he is ex RN...OK, lets say his other offences were minor, say for speeding, or even the more heinous offence of stealing Daffs, i'd put him now at a minimum of 90 years old... |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 10:56:49 GMT
No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! What a croc of shit, how long did he get for stabbing a Police Officer, I'd guess min of 15 years...And you have lived with him for 30 years, and he is ex RN...OK, lets say his other offences were minor, say for speeding, or even the more heinous offence of stealing Daffs, i'd put him now at a minimum of 90 years old... He used to be married but one night, about thirty years ago, he was beating her so hard, it woke me up though I live in another block of flats. Shortly afterwards, a neighbour reported him chasing his missus down the street with a knife in his hand! They divorced shortly afterwards! Recently, there has been disturbances involving his son. I had to smile once as he complained bitterly about a probation order because the bus fares were too high and that he'd preferred prison as the cheaper option! Sometimes, when relatives tell me they enjoy watching 'soaps' on t.v. I reply, I'm living it! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 11:36:53 GMT
What a croc of shit, how long did he get for stabbing a Police Officer, I'd guess min of 15 years...And you have lived with him for 30 years, and he is ex RN...OK, lets say his other offences were minor, say for speeding, or even the more heinous offence of stealing Daffs, i'd put him now at a minimum of 90 years old... He used to be married but one night, about thirty years ago, he was beating her so hard, it woke me up though I live in another block of flats. Shortly afterwards, a neighbour reported him chasing his missus down the street with a knife in his hand! They divorced shortly afterwards! Recently, there has been disturbances involving his son. I had to smile once as he complained bitterly about a probation order because the bus fares were too high and that he'd preferred prison as the cheaper option! Sometimes, when relatives tell me they enjoy watching 'soaps' on t.v. I reply, I'm living it! Have you ever considered moving. That's what I did with my family as they were at risk where we were living and I was not prepared to see them hurt.
We lost our house as a result but the quality of life after the move improved massively for them.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 12:08:48 GMT
He used to be married but one night, about thirty years ago, he was beating her so hard, it woke me up though I live in another block of flats. Shortly afterwards, a neighbour reported him chasing his missus down the street with a knife in his hand! They divorced shortly afterwards! Recently, there has been disturbances involving his son. I had to smile once as he complained bitterly about a probation order because the bus fares were too high and that he'd preferred prison as the cheaper option! Sometimes, when relatives tell me they enjoy watching 'soaps' on t.v. I reply, I'm living it! Have you ever considered moving. That's what I did with my family as they were at risk where we were living and I was not prepared to see them hurt.
We lost our house as a result but the quality of life after the move improved massively for them.
Yes, I have. And it is still under consideration. However, as I said, we've bumped along all these years so it's nothing out of the ordinary. Fortunately, we used to have a police sergeant who lived in the same block and befriended my neighbour and helped keep him under control. Very sadly, about three years ago, suddenly and unexpectedly, the officer died of bowel cancer. |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 28, 2017 12:16:27 GMT
Top coppering that. Being a useless fucking jobsworth is a massive part of the job.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 28, 2017 13:08:56 GMT
Was he also in possession of a loud shirt in a built up area. No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! He hurled abuse at you in public? I'd like to buy that chap a pint. |
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Post by woodstein on Mar 28, 2017 13:56:48 GMT
Blimey we've gone from daffs to dafts. Don't half go off subject sometimes! An offcial warning and perhaps embarrassing the twerp on public is sufficient. Not exactly endangering lives compared to speeders though.
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Post by capto on Mar 28, 2017 14:10:20 GMT
If the man gets a criminal record and loses his job, Johnny Taxpayer will have to pick up the tab his family will collect in benefits! Where is your proof he will get a criminal record? The very worst that will happen is he will get a ticking off, if that. Most people on here should really engage brains before banging the keyboard ; those throbbing veins on the temples are gonna explode one of these days! |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 15:06:20 GMT
No, but he's been in prison about twenty times and one of his offences includes stabbing a police officer! I've lived with this gentleman for about thirty years so we've bumped along together though last year he shouted the most appalling abuse at me in public twice. I wouldn't usually mind but his last effort was strimming a whole bed of flowers we've had for 30 years! Generally, I believe in applying a bit of common sense but sometimes people can push the boundaries too far! Coming back to the daffodils, I think a caution and pointing out if it happened again more serious consequences would follow should have been the best course of action. It would have made the point to his children too! He hurled abuse at you in public? I'd like to buy that chap a pint. Actually, on one occasion it was just before I was off to hospital for important I.Q. tests to see if I'm in the early stages of dementia. Clearly, you think such behaviour is acceptable?! What a nice chappie you are?! I didn't complain to anyone but a neighbour did report it to the authorities! |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 28, 2017 15:09:50 GMT
If the man gets a criminal record and loses his job, Johnny Taxpayer will have to pick up the tab his family will collect in benefits! Where is your proof he will get a criminal record? The very worst that will happen is he will get a ticking off, if that. Most people on here should really engage brains before banging the keyboard ; those throbbing veins on the temples are gonna explode one of these days! I've said a 'ticking off' is appropriate. Who knows what will happen next now details have been taken? Some posters think it is very serious as 'theft is theft'? |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 28, 2017 15:35:13 GMT
The police don't make the laws of this land but have to uphold them. That's their job and well done to this police officer for confiscating them. The father is a knob of the highest order. The police officer gave the confiscated flowers to a care home.
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