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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 1, 2023 8:02:20 GMT
My mate lives in the States and has recently moved from LA to Florida because of the mess on the West coast. Something to do with taxes / drugs and the communities and it not being a great place to live I believe. or at least that’s what he told me. I was chatting to a couple of older yanks on holiday in Italy last week, they moved out of San Francisco, said its turned into a horrible place from when they grew up there. It’s tragic. I went there about 15 years ago and it was one the best places I’ve ever visited. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2023 9:54:54 GMT
Hopefully he man's up and debates other candidates in the Republican party. Leaders lead they don't hide. Best leader to come out of the West since Thatcher mate. Thatcher... I think she would have hated Trump Thatcher had actual beliefs, Trump believes in nothing but himself |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 10:56:24 GMT
Best leader to come out of the West since Thatcher mate. Thatcher... I think she would have hated Trump Thatcher had actual beliefs, Trump believes in nothing but himself Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 1, 2023 15:33:28 GMT
Thatcher... I think she would have hated Trump Thatcher had actual beliefs, Trump believes in nothing but himself Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. Thatcher represented the aspiring middle class - she absolutely loathed the working class and decimated working class communities right across the country. Trump couldn't give a fuck about anyone else but Trump. I do believe working class communities don't get the representation they need (and that includes socially conservative right wingers) - but in part it's down to this bizarre habit of claiming people as their own who have absolutely no experience of working class life and, outside the ballot box, hold the working class in utter contempt. It's weird. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 15:38:44 GMT
Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. Thatcher represented the aspiring middle class - she absolutely loathed the working class and decimated working class communities right across the country. Trump couldn't give a fuck about anyone else but Trump. I do believe working class communities don't get the representation they need (and that includes socially conservative right wingers) - but in part it's down to this bizarre habit of claiming people as their own who have absolutely no experience of working class life and, outside the ballot box, hold the working class in utter contempt. It's weird. Nah Thatcher was ace mate, True working class hero's her and Trump are. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 1, 2023 15:47:42 GMT
Hopefully he man's up and debates other candidates in the Republican party. Leaders lead they don't hide. Best leader to come out of the West since Thatcher mate. Thatcher would have had no time, or respect, for a rapist. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 15:51:50 GMT
Best leader to come out of the West since Thatcher mate. Thatcher would have had no time, or respect, for a rapist. . That's because she was a good moral honourable woman. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2023 16:00:57 GMT
Thatcher represented the aspiring middle class - she absolutely loathed the working class and decimated working class communities right across the country. Trump couldn't give a fuck about anyone else but Trump. I do believe working class communities don't get the representation they need (and that includes socially conservative right wingers) - but in part it's down to this bizarre habit of claiming people as their own who have absolutely no experience of working class life and, outside the ballot box, hold the working class in utter contempt. It's weird. Nah Thatcher was ace mate, True working class hero's her and Trump are. She most definitely was not working class as you well know |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 16:02:24 GMT
Nah Thatcher was ace mate, True working class hero's her and Trump are. She most definitely was not working class as you well know She was mate ad you well know. 🇬🇧 |
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 1, 2023 16:38:52 GMT
Thatcher would have had no time, or respect, for a rapist. . That's because she was a good moral honourable woman. I think you’re saying that good, moral, honourable people should have no time, or respect, for Donald Trump. I agree. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 2, 2023 7:18:57 GMT
She most definitely was not working class as you well know She was mate ad you well know. 🇬🇧 She was a grammar school educated daughter of a shop keeper who married a millionaire - by any definition at the time that would have her middle class, not working class and to be fair at no point did she ever claim to be working class. She wasn't considered part of the establishment but there is no way she was working class. There are a good number of working class people who admire Thatcher but there are working class people right across the country who loathe her for what she did to working class communities. Despite what you seem to think you are not the authentic voice of the working class - in fact there isn't one voice and to suggest otherwise is nonsense. |
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Post by knype on Oct 2, 2023 7:24:57 GMT
She was mate ad you well know. 🇬🇧 She was a grammar school educated daughter of a shop keeper who married a millionaire - by any definition at the time that would have her middle class, not working class and to be fair at no point did she ever claim to be working class. She wasn't considered part of the establishment but there is no way she was working class. There are a good number of working class people who admire Thatcher but there are working class people right across the country who loathe her for what she did to working class communities. Despite what you seem to think you are not the authentic voice of the working class - in fact there isn't one voice and to suggest otherwise is nonsense. Is Starmer middle or working class? |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 2, 2023 7:34:35 GMT
She was mate ad you well know. 🇬🇧 She was a grammar school educated daughter of a shop keeper who married a millionaire - by any definition at the time that would have her middle class, not working class and to be fair at no point did she ever claim to be working class. She wasn't considered part of the establishment but there is no way she was working class. There are a good number of working class people who admire Thatcher but there are working class people right across the country who loathe her for what she did to working class communities. Despite what you seem to think you are not the authentic voice of the working class - in fact there isn't one voice and to suggest otherwise is nonsense. I never claimed to be the voice of the working class. The views of the authentic working class are closer to mine than yours though mate. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Oct 2, 2023 11:32:23 GMT
Thatcher... I think she would have hated Trump Thatcher had actual beliefs, Trump believes in nothing but himself Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. Both put their own country 1st, and stood up to outsiders... Maggie Maggie Maggie, Oi Oi Oi. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 2, 2023 11:40:14 GMT
Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. Both put their own country 1st, and stood up to outsiders... Maggie Maggie Maggie, Oi Oi Oi. Thatcher was ace mate, they didn't call her the Iron lady for nothing. Trump, like Thatcher is also on the right side of history. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 2, 2023 11:46:14 GMT
Thatcher... I think she would have hated Trump Thatcher had actual beliefs, Trump believes in nothing but himself Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. Now I know your taking the piss. Trump has the best interests of working class at heart hahaha. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 2, 2023 11:46:56 GMT
Probably, I don't know, I'm not Thacher, i couldn't really give a monkeys toss who she'd like or wouldn't like. 😂 They're both legends though, both good strong leaders that have the best interests of the working people at heart. Now I know your taking the piss. Trump has the best interests of working class at heart hahaha. Good argument mate. MAGA 🇺🇸 MBGA 🇬🇧 |
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 2, 2023 11:55:15 GMT
Now I know your taking the piss. Trump has the best interests of working class at heart hahaha. Good argument mate. MAGA 🇺🇸 MBGA 🇬🇧 The working class you speak about are nothing but pawns to Trump. He couldn't give 2 hoots about anyone but himself. People who use anger to win votes tend to have their own agenda and have little interest in helping people. He's good at grooming people I will give him that. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 2, 2023 11:59:21 GMT
Good argument mate. MAGA 🇺🇸 MBGA 🇬🇧 The working class you speak about are nothing but pawns to Trump. He couldn't give 2 hoots about anyone but himself. People who use anger to win votes tend to have their own agenda and have little interest in helping people. He's good at grooming people I will give him that. I disagree mate. Trump is about the only one that genuinely gives a toss about America and the working class. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Oct 2, 2023 12:21:04 GMT
Now I know your taking the piss. Trump has the best interests of working class at heart hahaha. Good argument mate. MAGA 🇺🇸 MBGA 🇬🇧 MEGA... Fuck the Jocks, Taffs and Micks |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 2, 2023 12:40:50 GMT
She was a grammar school educated daughter of a shop keeper who married a millionaire - by any definition at the time that would have her middle class, not working class and to be fair at no point did she ever claim to be working class. She wasn't considered part of the establishment but there is no way she was working class. There are a good number of working class people who admire Thatcher but there are working class people right across the country who loathe her for what she did to working class communities. Despite what you seem to think you are not the authentic voice of the working class - in fact there isn't one voice and to suggest otherwise is nonsense. Is Starmer middle or working class? His father was a toolmaker and his mother a nurse so he could legitimately claim he was from a working class background but given where he is now I'd say he was middle class. Thatcher never claimed to be anything other than middle class. Any claims she was working class are nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 13:06:58 GMT
The working class you speak about are nothing but pawns to Trump. He couldn't give 2 hoots about anyone but himself. People who use anger to win votes tend to have their own agenda and have little interest in helping people. He's good at grooming people I will give him that. I disagree mate. Trump is about the only one that genuinely gives a toss about America and the working class. When Trump was leveraging his position of power with Qatar to help his slumlord son-in-law out of debt, was he helping the working people? When the gap between metro and non-metro income continued to escalate, was he helping the working people? When he cut rural investments, was that helping working people? How about when his policies sided with agribusiness rather than the independent farmer? When his trade wars led to a 24% increase in bankruptcy filings in small to medium sized farms, did that help? Slashing access to health insurance probably didn’t help much. Under Trump, the share of total income going to the prosperous and wealthy grew by a whopping 17 percent between 2016 and 2019. That means most Americans received a thinner slice of the national income pie in 2019. None of this sounds like caring about the working man. Why would he? |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 2, 2023 13:23:52 GMT
Trumps Civil case starts in New York today where he and his family begin to defend fraud charges that he didn't inflate his wealth by $1.9 Billion to $3.6 Billion to procure more favourable business terms
Of course he's working class
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 2, 2023 13:31:36 GMT
Both put their own country 1st, and stood up to outsiders... Maggie Maggie Maggie, Oi Oi Oi. Thatcher was ace mate, they didn't call her the Iron lady for nothing. Trump, like Thatcher is also on the right side of history. Pretty sure that in the past you have sided with the idea that: "good, moral, honourable people should have no time, or respect, for Donald Trump." Double standards, yourself and Trump appear to sit very well with each other. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 2, 2023 13:31:50 GMT
I disagree mate. Trump is about the only one that genuinely gives a toss about America and the working class. When Trump was leveraging his position of power with Qatar to help his slumlord son-in-law out of debt, was he helping the working people? When the gap between metro and non-metro income continued to escalate, was he helping the working people? When he cut rural investments, was that helping working people? How about when his policies sided with agribusiness rather than the independent farmer? When his trade wars led to a 24% increase in bankruptcy filings in small to medium sized farms, did that help? Slashing access to health insurance probably didn’t help much. Under Trump, the share of total income going to the prosperous and wealthy grew by a whopping 17 percent between 2016 and 2019. That means most Americans received a thinner slice of the national income pie in 2019. None of this sounds like caring about the working man. Why would he? Nah he's a legend mate. If you want corrupting look no further than Biden and hunters laptop and their links to corruption in Ukraine. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 2, 2023 13:32:34 GMT
Thatcher was ace mate, they didn't call her the Iron lady for nothing. Trump, like Thatcher is also on the right side of history. Pretty sure that in the past you have sided with the idea that: "good, moral, honourable people should have no time, or respect, for Donald Trump." Double standards, yourself and Trump appear to sit very well with each other. No you just made that up mate. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 2, 2023 14:22:18 GMT
He's going to jail, end of.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 2, 2023 16:08:45 GMT
He's going to jail, end of. His defence in the current court case for overstating his assets is hilarious. My favourite is his claim that his penthouse flat was three times larger than it actually is isn't an issue because the matter is purely subjective. Presumably tape measures are a devious tool of the deep state. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 2, 2023 16:37:41 GMT
When Trump was leveraging his position of power with Qatar to help his slumlord son-in-law out of debt, was he helping the working people? When the gap between metro and non-metro income continued to escalate, was he helping the working people? When he cut rural investments, was that helping working people? How about when his policies sided with agribusiness rather than the independent farmer? When his trade wars led to a 24% increase in bankruptcy filings in small to medium sized farms, did that help? Slashing access to health insurance probably didn’t help much. Under Trump, the share of total income going to the prosperous and wealthy grew by a whopping 17 percent between 2016 and 2019. That means most Americans received a thinner slice of the national income pie in 2019. None of this sounds like caring about the working man. Why would he? Nah he's a legend mate. If you want corrupting look no further than Biden and hunters laptop and their links to corruption in Ukraine. What's Biden got to do with Trump not looking out for the working man? When people can't defend Trump why do they bring Biden into it? You are just parroting what other people are saying. Are you speaking your own mind or someone else's? |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 2, 2023 16:50:08 GMT
He's going to jail, end of. His defence in the current court case for overstating his assets is hilarious. My favourite is his claim that his penthouse flat was three times larger than it actually is isn't an issue because the matter is purely subjective. Presumably tape measures are a devious tool of the deep state. "The tape measures were tampered with" He's made more ludicrous claims and managed to convince some to be fair. |
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