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Post by musik on Oct 29, 2024 0:32:09 GMT
They are literally fuckin nutcases! 🤦♂️ She missed the thanks for fucking a porn star, when your wife is carrying your child, according to the book of Stormy: and the thanks for raping a look alike of your second wife, according to the book of Marla: she missed all the stuff about fraud, cowardice, corruption, racism and misogyny. Amongst the few people who are bigger hypocrites than Trump, American evangelical ‘Christians’,have to be the worst. If I believed in god, it would be comfort to know they will end up in hell. Someone once said on TV here I think, he had all in all lots of charges according to some list. Could that really be true? I would like to check such information! |
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 29, 2024 0:44:44 GMT
They are literally fuckin nutcases! 🤦♂️ All religion's are, but mainly harmless ! |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 1:17:08 GMT
They are literally fuckin nutcases! 🤦♂️ All religion's are, but mainly harmless ! Righto ... |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 1:18:51 GMT
Wasn't really sure where else to put this but here will do.
Love it that Palin can be actually offended by her own racism! 🤣
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 29, 2024 2:06:55 GMT
All religion's are, but mainly harmless ! Righto ... What do you think religion is ? if you worship the main prophets, that's fine, but if you worship something else, you're a nutter. It's all patronising, but harmless. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 3:04:55 GMT
What do you think religion is ? if you worship the main prophets, that's fine, but if you worship something else, you're a nutter. It's all patronising, but harmless. Yes I know what religion is. Have you heard of the Crusades, we can start there if you like? Or if not, then maybe we can get a bit more upto date and consider the 20,000 dead kids in Gaza. |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 29, 2024 7:32:51 GMT
Isn't it more than common knowledge that before a ceasefire would be considered Putin told Ukraine it must withdraw its troops from the four regions that Russia claims to have annexed: Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia. He's also demanded that Ukraine abandon its ambitions to join NATO. The whole thing initially came through Reuters who spoke to five people who work with or have worked with Putin at a senior level in the political and business worlds. On top of that, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov also reiterated the demands to Reuters. Instanbul communique Or an earlier Istanbul document even www.osce.org/mc/17502 |
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 29, 2024 7:52:07 GMT
Wasn't really sure where else to put this but here will do. Love it that Palin can be actually offended by her own racism! 🤣 The truth is powerful; that is why serial liars fill up as much time as possible with lies. People who allow those lies to pass unchallenged, out of politeness, give respectability and authority to those lies. Liars must always be challenged with the truth. Well done Mehdi. |
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Post by noustie on Oct 29, 2024 11:47:31 GMT
It’s completely bonkers where the US is at the moment.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 29, 2024 11:50:25 GMT
What do you think religion is ? if you worship the main prophets, that's fine, but if you worship something else, you're a nutter. It's all patronising, but harmless. Yes I know what religion is. Have you heard of the Crusades, we can start there if you like? Or if not, then maybe we can get a bit more upto date and consider the 20,000 dead kids in Gaza. Or 9/11?? Or 7/7?? Or 7/10? |
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 29, 2024 11:59:58 GMT
What do you think religion is ? if you worship the main prophets, that's fine, but if you worship something else, you're a nutter. It's all patronising, but harmless. Yes I know what religion is. Have you heard of the Crusades, we can start there if you like? Or if not, then maybe we can get a bit more upto date and consider the 20,000 dead kids in Gaza. Can you compare the Crusades with the war in Palestine ? Maybe you can, I don't but I get your point. Hopefully you understood mine. |
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Post by frasier37 on Oct 29, 2024 15:34:11 GMT
I hardly ever watch sky news but it's on where I'm working so had to endure trump, ironically talking out of his arse  Fuck me it was like he was doing a piss take of himself. I know all politicians all over the world are lying fuckpigs but, how the fuck are people being fooled by that cretin ? |
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Post by lordb on Oct 29, 2024 15:47:51 GMT
Yes I know what religion is. Have you heard of the Crusades, we can start there if you like? Or if not, then maybe we can get a bit more upto date and consider the 20,000 dead kids in Gaza. Or 9/11?? Or 7/7?? Or 7/10? being really simplistic none of those involved Hamas,Hezbolloah or Iran |
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Post by Veritas on Oct 29, 2024 16:15:23 GMT
What do you think religion is ? if you worship the main prophets, that's fine, but if you worship something else, you're a nutter. It's all patronising, but harmless. Yes I know what religion is. Have you heard of the Crusades, we can start there if you like? Or if not, then maybe we can get a bit more upto date and consider the 20,000 dead kids in Gaza. Going back into history to demonstrate a right or a wrong is a pointless dead-end. You play the Crusades, I play the Muslim conquest of Palestine in the 630's. You play the Iberian reconquestia, I play the fall of Constantinople and the Balkan conquest. War and conquest was the norm at the time so digging up historic examples proves nothing and justifies nothing. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 16:21:35 GMT
Yes I know what religion is. Have you heard of the Crusades, we can start there if you like? Or if not, then maybe we can get a bit more upto date and consider the 20,000 dead kids in Gaza. Going back into history to demonstrate a right or a wrong is a pointless dead-end. You play the Crusades, I play the Muslim conquest of Palestine in the 630's. You play the Iberian reconquestia, I play the fall of Constantinople and the Balkan conquest. War and conquest was the norm at the time so digging up historic examples proves nothing and justifies nothing. What on earth are you on about? I suggest you actually read the thread. turtlefox suggested that religion is harmless, I suggested it wasn't, by providing the examples above. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 29, 2024 16:25:21 GMT
Putin wants to conquer and control Ukraine. His demands are that Ukraine hand over 4 full regions in order to discuss a ceasefire. I think you've fallen for propoganda there. Do you have a Russian source which confirms these claims? Are Putin's words acceptable evidence? e.g. source. "As soon as they declare in Kyiv that they are ready for such a decision and begin a real withdrawal of troops from these regions, and also officially announce the abandonment of their plans to join NATO — on our side, immediately, literally at the same minute, an order will follow to cease fire and begin negotiations," Mr Putin said. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 29, 2024 16:27:35 GMT
If Trump were to withdraw arms funding for Ukraine, it could significantly weaken Ukraine's ability to defend itself against Russia. This might embolden Putin to maintain or even escalate his demands, rather than surrendering them. Putin's goals include weakening Ukraine's ties with NATO, stymieing Ukrainian nationalism, and expanding territorial gains. Without strong military support from the US, Ukraine would be in a much more vulnerable position, making it less likely that Putin would feel compelled to compromise. I mean yeah... I don't understand how anyone thinks that disarming the people defending their home will make a brutal genocidal attacker decide to stop. Is Putin supposed to think "Oh no I might get more stuff and it'll cost me way less. I better stop and take a humiliating loss now it's too easy!" It's like arguing that if we'd disarmed Europe in 1938 that Hitler would have been stopped and would never have invaded Poland. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 29, 2024 16:41:26 GMT
Or 9/11?? Or 7/7?? Or 7/10? being really simplistic none of those involved Hamas,Hezbolloah or Iran Nor did The Crusades. They were all attacks done in the name of religious militantism. |
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Post by Veritas on Oct 29, 2024 16:42:02 GMT
Going back into history to demonstrate a right or a wrong is a pointless dead-end. You play the Crusades, I play the Muslim conquest of Palestine in the 630's. You play the Iberian reconquestia, I play the fall of Constantinople and the Balkan conquest. War and conquest was the norm at the time so digging up historic examples proves nothing and justifies nothing. What on earth are you on about? I suggest you actually read the thread. turtlefox suggested that religion is harmless, I suggested it wasn't, by providing the examples above. As I said a pointless exercise, for every so called historic religious inspired outrage can be countered by one inspired without religious influence. Hitler, Stalin & Pol Pot were driven by non religious ideas to commit untold horrors. So are you saying ideas are not harmless? I simply say that trying to prove something by historic examples is an unsound approach as every example can be countered. For every religion bad example you could put gorwardI could give a good one. Equally for every bad example of political ideology I could counter with a good one. |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Oct 29, 2024 16:42:19 GMT
Going back into history to demonstrate a right or a wrong is a pointless dead-end. You play the Crusades, I play the Muslim conquest of Palestine in the 630's. You play the Iberian reconquestia, I play the fall of Constantinople and the Balkan conquest. War and conquest was the norm at the time so digging up historic examples proves nothing and justifies nothing. What on earth are you on about? I suggest you actually read the thread. turtlefox suggested that religion is harmless, I suggested it wasn't, by providing the examples above. That could be an interesting thread! |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 16:47:07 GMT
What on earth are you on about? I suggest you actually read the thread. turtlefox suggested that religion is harmless, I suggested it wasn't, by providing the examples above. As I said a pointless exercise, for every so called historic religious inspired outrage can be countered by one inspired without religious influence. Hitler, Stalin & Pol Pot were driven by non religious ideas to commit untold horrors. So are you saying ideas are not harmless? I simply say that trying to prove something by historic examples is an unsound approach as every example can be countered. For every religion bad example you could put gorwardI could give a good one. Equally for every bad example of political ideology I could counter with a good one. You've gone off on a massive tangent about something that wasn't said or implied. turtlefox said that generally religion is harmless, I disagreed with him and gave him a couple of examples to show that religion has caused wars. The End. Unless you also want to also argue that religion hasn't caused wars of course ... |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 29, 2024 17:17:51 GMT
I think you've fallen for propoganda there. Do you have a Russian source which confirms these claims? Are Putin's words acceptable evidence? e.g. source. "As soon as they declare in Kyiv that they are ready for such a decision and begin a real withdrawal of troops from these regions, and also officially announce the abandonment of their plans to join NATO — on our side, immediately, literally at the same minute, an order will follow to cease fire and begin negotiations," Mr Putin said. Are you not better using primary rather than secondary or tertiary sources if you wish to avoid propoganda and get factual information? The speech in full can be accessed here (presuming transcript is correct). He also references the previous peace agreements in the speech. This is just one reference: "From the outset, we consistently proposed diplomatic solutions to the crisis, as I mentioned earlier today. These included negotiations in Belarus and Turkiye, as well as the withdrawal of troops from Kiev to facilitate the signing of the Istanbul Agreements, which had been broadly accepted. However, these efforts were also rebuffed. The West and Kiev persisted in their aim to defeat us. Yet, as you know, these efforts ultimately faltered." mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1957107/To try and imply that Putin wants to conquer and control Ukraine is incorrect. The speech details the 2014 coup and negotiations, the Minsk agreements, instanbul agreements, Belarus negotiations and much more. If his goal is to conquer Ukraine then why did he agree to the Minsk agreements and the Instanbul communique? Why did the west pressure Ukraine to not accept the bilaterally negotiated peace deal or implement the Minsk agreement reforms? Why did he try and find a diplomatic solution to the coup rather than use it as an excuse to invade? I don't expect an answer to the above. I'm still waiting after asking 10 times for examples of how the west has used propoganda in relation to this conflict and I'm yet to receive an answer from you. Seems you can only spot "propoganda" if it's someone Biden, Harris or Trump tells you is a baddie. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 29, 2024 18:28:03 GMT
Well it looks like Donald may have taken a decisive lead in the contest.
Putting any partisan opinions aside about the man, what do we think the main focus of his new term will be and how will he go about it? Interested to hear the thoughts of those in the US.
Global conflict
Economy
Law and Order
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 29, 2024 18:33:03 GMT
Well it looks like Donald may have taken a decisive lead in the contest. Putting any partisan opinions aside about the man, what do we think the main focus of his new term will be and how will he go about it? Interested to hear the thoughts of those in the US. Global conflict Economy Law and Order Keeping his arse out of nick |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 29, 2024 18:34:44 GMT
Well it looks like Donald may have taken a decisive lead in the contest. Putting any partisan opinions aside about the man, what do we think the main focus of his new term will be and how will he go about it? Interested to hear the thoughts of those in the US. Global conflict Economy Law and Order Keeping his arse out of nick He’s not going to prison is he, let’s be honest. But it’s really important he gets things right. Not saying he will just inviting some balanced opinion and not the usual shite |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 20:10:36 GMT
Well it looks like Donald may have taken a decisive lead in the contest. Link? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 29, 2024 20:24:02 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 29, 2024 20:26:52 GMT
"Key points ... A week to go until the US election - and the polls are on a knife edge." 🤔 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 29, 2024 20:58:11 GMT
"Key points ... A week to go until the US election - and the polls are on a knife edge." 🤔 Sorry I was talking about bookies odds mainly. It was just a question, if you’re not interested then it’s fine |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 29, 2024 21:49:56 GMT
Keeping his arse out of nick He’s not going to prison is he, let’s be honest. But it’s really important he gets things right. Not saying he will just inviting some balanced opinion and not the usual shite Good luck mate. |
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