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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 9:32:48 GMT
Are they allowed to clock you using their portable cameras if their are no road signs saying their are speed cameras in operation?
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Post by wembley4372 on May 14, 2008 9:37:07 GMT
yep
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Post by mumf14 on May 14, 2008 9:38:23 GMT
Yes.!
Any time.... any place.... anywhere.
It reminds me of that hot summer back in 76' and a very obliging girlfriend at the time...
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 9:40:01 GMT
do all marked cars have speed cameras? and dont they have to publish were their going to be clocking people even if its in a marked car
only ask because a mate as got a fine through when he didnt he even know that they were taking pictures he was only doing 32 as well
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Post by mumf14 on May 14, 2008 9:40:29 GMT
No.
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Post by ben88 on May 14, 2008 9:44:11 GMT
ive never really got the reason why they put signs up saying "speed camera's in operation".
i know its good for us.
its like being at school, and before a teacher comes in the class room, they stand outside and say. "right, im coming in, in 10 seconds"
they would catch alot more people if they didnt put the sings up. and proberly cut speeding alot, because people wouldent know where they are and would always have to be cautious.
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Post by We Are Premier League on May 14, 2008 9:45:03 GMT
Just tell your mate to pay it. He shouldn't of been speeding.
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Post by wembley4372 on May 14, 2008 9:47:17 GMT
unfortunately they don't often put the speed limit sign near the camera warning so you often get someone who is confused into slowing down too much - almost as big a hazard at times
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 9:48:23 GMT
they have to put the signs up for the mobile vans its law and normally even when people have seen the signs its 2 late as they have already been clocked
he will pay it but he'#s just seeing if he can get of it.
dont they pull you over if you've been clocked to tell you?
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Post by broadwayroundabout on May 14, 2008 9:48:30 GMT
If the vehicle is parked illegely ie on pavement or grass verge, wether its a cop car or one of those unmarked vans you can challenge the ticket, if you think you were caught (if you see the van its too late they've got you ), stop and take a pic of it and how its parked.
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 9:49:13 GMT
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rocket
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"Thats another fine mess Tony !" Sorry Peter
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Post by rocket on May 14, 2008 9:53:33 GMT
They publish in the Sentinel every week where they will be also
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on May 14, 2008 10:16:23 GMT
Ask for photographic evidence and for the calibration certificate of the camera in use at the time of the offence. That usually kills it!
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 10:17:41 GMT
cheers u2toxeterstokie will tell him
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Post by KevinWhimper on May 14, 2008 10:22:43 GMT
Yeh my dad told my sister to do that once, she was also doing 32 and she got off it.
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 10:24:01 GMT
why do they usually drop it if you ask for that?
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on May 14, 2008 10:35:09 GMT
They usually cannot provide the calibration certificate which they have to if asked. If they can then I'm afraid you have no option but to pay up.
Write a letter to the issueing office and ask the following questions:
1. Please inform me who the operator of the equipment at the time of the alleged offence was.
2. I would like to see all the current training and procedure certificates for the said officer.
3. Please provide identification of the actual equipment used to record the alleged offence.
4. I would like to see all maintenance and calibration records for the identified equipment.
5. I would like proper documentation that states that all calibration procedures for the actual site have been actioned accordingly and noted by both the equipment operator and traffic car driver.
6. Please identify exact location of equipment used to record alleged offence.
7. Please show that vehicle named, i.e. SK55 PSZ, was isolated in field of view and not `shadowed` by any other vehicle.
8. Please provide copies of actual photos of the alleged offence.
9. Please provide documentation that the site used was totally suitable for this type of equipment and free from any type of contamination.
10. That the site used fulfils any guidelines set down in legislation, i.e. length of site, eight or more injury accidents in preceding three years, etc.
11. That the 85th percentile speed was greater than the ACPO guidelines.
12. I would like a copy of the force’s procedures for the use of radar.
Good Luck
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Post by supersmashinggreat on May 14, 2008 10:36:11 GMT
They are supposed to calibrate there guns every week by law, however this is sometimes done once a fortnight, month & they are not 100% acurate. they just rely on joe public paying up without a fuss.
A bit like debt collection companies that write threatening letters but have no actual power, they just use words like "may" "could" etc
There is usually an Ad in the Mail on a Saturday near the back selling a book on loopholes etc.
Good read aswell
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Post by KevinWhimper on May 14, 2008 10:37:44 GMT
Bloody hell uttoxeter, how do you know all of this mate?
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 10:41:34 GMT
koool
will tell him that and also wait and see if i get 1 through. think i got clocked today doing around 50mph on uttoxeter road near ainsley special school didnt see the cop car till to late as sun was covering all his stripes.
But a think hed pulled a van over as a van was stopped a little way up.
have to wait and see
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on May 14, 2008 10:42:17 GMT
Several reasons, one of which I will not say. I now run a fleet of twelve service vehicles and my lads are always getting done. We haven't paid a fine yet!!
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 10:43:40 GMT
how many times you had to send them a letter u2oxeter asking them for the calibartion certificate?
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on May 14, 2008 10:45:32 GMT
About 8 times to different forces up and down the country.
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 10:48:34 GMT
so it does work then.
how many times you had send them to the local constabulary?
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Post by KevinWhimper on May 14, 2008 10:48:41 GMT
;D thats bloody brilliant, karma to you for your efforts!
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on May 14, 2008 10:52:41 GMT
None locally. Thanks for the Karma, I needed it!
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 10:58:45 GMT
if i ever need any more advice on them i know where to come
karma for you u2oxeter
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 11:02:50 GMT
also how long are theya llowed before ti has to be on your doorstop i now Ferdinand got let off last week or week before because it was processed to late
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on May 14, 2008 11:06:57 GMT
I think they have 12 weeks, they like to make you sweat a bit!
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Post by stokecity4eva on May 14, 2008 11:11:51 GMT
thats a bit long time aint it
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