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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 29, 2017 13:07:43 GMT
Cya Bojan, can't say i blame you and hope you tear it up over there Also, big hand for Mark Hughes, getting rid of the only no.10 we have and along with him any evidence that your poor recruitment has left us fucked in defensive midfield Fuck this season off already Bojan has been sacrificed because we still haven't replaced N'Zonzi. Think about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 13:08:47 GMT
His message on facebook reads very much as if it's a permanent goodbye. Sorry I can't copy it onto here on my phone.
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Post by fca47 on Jan 29, 2017 13:08:49 GMT
We're severely lacking creativity in centre of midfield, even when things weren't going well for him, he offered that. Sad situation.
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Post by liamo on Jan 29, 2017 13:09:40 GMT
Cya Bojan, can't say i blame you and hope you tear it up over there Also, big hand for Mark Hughes, getting rid of the only no.10 we have and along with him any evidence that your poor recruitment has left us fucked in defensive midfield Fuck this season off already Bojan has been sacrificed because we still haven't replaced N'Zonzi. Think about it. It gives me nightmares
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 29, 2017 13:13:36 GMT
Bojan had a cracking half season for us, the only one he has had in several years and then got injured. He had the burst on returning as often happens but couldn't sustain it. He now looks lacking in confidence and willingness to engage physically. This seems like the perfect solution giving him the chance to play regularly in a less physically demanding league while retaining the option to bring him back if things go well. If it doesn't go well we will lose some of the fee available currently but that seems a reasonable price to pay for the option.
Yet again our much criticised management put together a deal that benefits all parties
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 29, 2017 13:15:13 GMT
Well I will say it well done lads good call
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 29, 2017 13:16:57 GMT
Bojan had a cracking half season for us, the only one he has had in several years and then got injured. He had the burst on returning as often happens but couldn't sustain it. He now looks lacking in confidence and willingness to engage physically. This seems like the perfect solution giving him the chance to play regularly in a less physically demanding league while retaining the option to bring him back if things go well. If it doesn't go well we will lose some of the fee available currently but that seems a reasonable price to pay for the option. Yet again our much criticised management put together a deal that benefits all parties
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Post by parsons75 on Jan 29, 2017 13:18:30 GMT
^ Yeah well done to the SL&P guys. People try to give them stick but they're on the button.
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Post by samblano on Jan 29, 2017 13:19:13 GMT
Bojan had a cracking half season for us, the only one he has had in several years and then got injured. He had the burst on returning as often happens but couldn't sustain it. He now looks lacking in confidence and willingness to engage physically. This seems like the perfect solution giving him the chance to play regularly in a less physically demanding league while retaining the option to bring him back if things go well. If it doesn't go well we will lose some of the fee available currently but that seems a reasonable price to pay for the option. Yet again our much criticised management put together a deal that benefits all parties If my memory serves me right hasn't he gone off the boil after a season or so at others clubs he's played for? He hasn't had a good run of games but when he's been given the chance he hasn't really taken it. To me he has under performed. ps It shows that SLP are ITK
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 29, 2017 13:20:24 GMT
Bojan had a cracking half season for us, the only one he has had in several years and then got injured. He had the burst on returning as often happens but couldn't sustain it. He now looks lacking in confidence and willingness to engage physically. This seems like the perfect solution giving him the chance to play regularly in a less physically demanding league while retaining the option to bring him back if things go well. If it doesn't go well we will lose some of the fee available currently but that seems a reasonable price to pay for the option. Yet again our much criticised management put together a deal that benefits all parties I will try again,fingers in the oven.😀....Just wanted to say I agree with you on every point👍
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 29, 2017 13:24:59 GMT
Cya Bojan, can't say i blame you and hope you tear it up over there Also, big hand for Mark Hughes, getting rid of the only no.10 we have and along with him any evidence that your poor recruitment has left us fucked in defensive midfield Fuck this season off already Bojan has been sacrificed because we still haven't replaced N'Zonzi. Think about it. Not an easy thing to do in fairness.
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Post by larstoke on Jan 29, 2017 13:26:38 GMT
Seemed like sad news at first. But if Bojan can play his football and do well down there for half a season, I really hope he comes back to Stoke for the next one.
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Post by mrred on Jan 29, 2017 13:27:21 GMT
Not the end of the world. We won't miss the Bojan of the last few years. I don't think not getting game time had been much of an excuse when he's looked comoletely devoid of any basic footballing tallent when he's been on or started. I hope he finds his old form there, I really do. But it's just history repeating itself at this point. I would say the last time he got any sustained game time we were in the running for Europe. I'm talking about him not getting the basics right though. Someone of his ability shouldn't look like someone that's won a competition to be a footballer for a day. And for all the gym work he was doing in his rehabilitation it's been embarrassing seeing how easily he gets shoved off the ball.
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 29, 2017 13:27:24 GMT
£12 million + interesting🤔 About time we stuck out for a proper price Think this is the best for both parties mate.
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Post by basingstokie on Jan 29, 2017 13:31:09 GMT
Feeling a little bit sad. Bojan has worked much talent and I wish he could have shown his true talent consistently. If he had he'd be off to Champions League side. Let's hope it works out for him at Mainz, but even if it does I just see a permanent move in the Summer :-(
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 29, 2017 13:37:59 GMT
You couldn't care where we finish? What a bizarre thing for a fan to say.I personally hope it's not in the bottom 3,but it would suit some of the Contrarians on here. That's Bayern all over, if it's not done exactly how he would do it, it's 'Wank' and 'boring' - Loves to slag players off too... Tells you all you need to know about the character.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 13:38:42 GMT
The last time he had a proper run of games, in late February 2016, we were 7th in the table, 42 points from 28 games, 4 points off europe, and 5 points from top 4.
This was with Bojan starting almost every game, and playing a vital role in each one.
Bojan played in 11 of our 14 wins last season, despite only starting 22 games overall, scoring 7 goals.
I completely agree that Bojan is paying the price for our weak midfield.
Can this please be pinned to remind everyone that's 'not the same player' as before his injury.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 29, 2017 13:45:59 GMT
Shames he's being used as a stick to beat the manager wit (from the usaul few who dont need any encouragement), that will become tiresome and detract what a player he was/could've been for us.
Huth mk2.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 29, 2017 13:50:41 GMT
Because it's tedious to watch and I couldn't really care we finish and the season ended when we lost to Wolves? Who? Fat Adam? Runner Allen? Crabby Afellay? Nah. You couldn't care where we finish? What a bizarre thing for a fan to say.I personally hope it's not in the bottom 3,but it would suit some of the Contrarians on here. We're not going down and we're not going to finish in a spot for Europe so yeah I'm not overly arsed at all. What we should do from now is play the youngsters some more and see if we can save money there. This season has no purpose bar that from now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 29, 2017 13:51:53 GMT
You couldn't care where we finish? What a bizarre thing for a fan to say.I personally hope it's not in the bottom 3,but it would suit some of the Contrarians on here. That's Bayern all over, if it's not done exactly how he would do it, it's 'Wank' and 'boring' - Loves to slag players off too... The football is dreadful though. It's as bad as the bad stuff under TP. It's got nothing to do with how I want it. It's just dull.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 13:53:27 GMT
Have anyone Heard how much Stoke get paid and if Mainz pays Bojans salary
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 29, 2017 13:53:49 GMT
Yes please !..... Sick of this Number 10s, false Number 9s shit .. 442 is the future .. Yours faithfully, Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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Post by yamyampotter on Jan 29, 2017 13:55:00 GMT
Honestly can't believe how much stick Allen gets because of how hard he works. Maybe if Bojan had of worked so hard on the pitch with the ability he has he wouldn't be leaving? Allen far more important to us than Bojan, and not just because he works hard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 13:55:47 GMT
I agree with Bayern, the football has regressed into "TP-lite", very nearly but not quite as dull and uninspiring just yet as it was under Pulis. What happened to the free-flowing attacking team we had just over 12 to 18 months ago ?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 29, 2017 14:00:27 GMT
Good luck to Bojan, I feel he would never recreate the form he was showing before his knee injury, his head just doesn't seem to be right, he is even more lightweight than ever and lacks any sort of grit and determination when he hasn't got the ball at his feet, he backs off from 50 - 50 challenges like a frightened school boy and even when he has the ball he looks worried that someone will make a hard challenge on him. In all honesty I am so disappointed like many Stoke supporters that he never recovered fully. For a brief period he was the player that took us to the next level both on and off the football pitch. Good luck to him but alas his time at Stoke had reached it's finale. Gouranga.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 29, 2017 14:02:12 GMT
Honestly can't believe how much stick Allen gets because of how hard he works. Maybe if Bojan had of worked so hard on the pitch with the ability he has he wouldn't be leaving? Allen far more important to us than Bojan, and not just because he works hard. That's the point, Bojan shouldn't have to work hard, he should be feeding the attack and floating around picking up the scraps, he shouldn't be tracking back, but because the midfield behind him is absolutely non-existent we've had to bring Allen in because he runs everywhere, a Number 10 shouldn't be winning the ball in his own half because the TWO central midfielders behind them are either not good enough, or not suited to that role. Bojan hasn't quite hit the heights he's capable of this season, I'll concede that, but the fact that Hughes is playing Joe Allen in his position smacks of what a failure Sparky's recruitment policy in midfield has been. Whelan - ageing Imbula - Doesn't seem to have a defensive bone in him Adam - Not a defensive midfielder Afellay - Not a defensive midfielder Joe Allen - Not a defensive midfielder as it turns out. As I said previously Bojan has been chopped because we haven't properly replaced N'Zonzi, if he had a solid foundation behind him then he'd flourish, but that foundation has been made out of spit and jizz for too long and now we're in this position. 30% Bojan not playing well, 70% Hughes' recruitment policy is to blame here in my opinion.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Jan 29, 2017 14:05:57 GMT
He was my favourite player, but I can live with the decision AS LONG AS THE MANAGEMENT EXPLAIN THEIR PLAN.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 29, 2017 14:07:32 GMT
He's still our player at the end of the day, to keep, sell or if necessary loan again (see V Moses). It takes the pressure off both the manager and player to fit him into the team now and and gives him a chance to hopefully regain his form/mental strength. If this stops the rot then great, if not then there is all summer to fix it, not just the remaining 2 days of this window.
Cup half full.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 14:08:09 GMT
Honestly can't believe how much stick Allen gets because of how hard he works. Maybe if Bojan had of worked so hard on the pitch with the ability he has he wouldn't be leaving? Allen far more important to us than Bojan, and not just because he works hard. That's the point, Bojan shouldn't have to work hard, he should be feeding the attack and floating around picking up the scraps, he shouldn't be tracking back, but because the midfield behind him is absolutely non-existent we've had to bring Allen in because he runs everywhere, a Number 10 shouldn't be winning the ball in his own half because the TWO central midfielders behind them are either not good enough, or not suited to that role. Bojan hasn't quite hit the heights he's capable of this season, I'll concede that, but the fact that Hughes is playing Joe Allen in his position smacks of what a failure Sparky's recruitment policy in midfield has been. Whelan - ageing Imbula - Doesn't seem to have a defensive bone in him Adam - Not a defensive midfielder Afellay - Not a defensive midfielder Joe Allen - Not a defensive midfielder as it turns out. As I said previously Bojan has been chopped because we haven't properly replaced N'Zonzi, if he had a solid foundation behind him then he'd flourish, but that foundation has been made out of spit and jizz for too long and now we're in this position. 30% Bojan not playing well, 70% Hughes' recruitment policy is to blame here in my opinion. So essentially what you are saying is we should play 10 men and a passenger. Face facts, he's not the messiah, he's just an average footballer now. It's a shame but his injury has seemingly caused a mental scar and he doesn't seem to know how to rekindle the magic.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 29, 2017 14:17:17 GMT
That's the point, Bojan shouldn't have to work hard, he should be feeding the attack and floating around picking up the scraps, he shouldn't be tracking back, but because the midfield behind him is absolutely non-existent we've had to bring Allen in because he runs everywhere, a Number 10 shouldn't be winning the ball in his own half because the TWO central midfielders behind them are either not good enough, or not suited to that role. Bojan hasn't quite hit the heights he's capable of this season, I'll concede that, but the fact that Hughes is playing Joe Allen in his position smacks of what a failure Sparky's recruitment policy in midfield has been. Whelan - ageing Imbula - Doesn't seem to have a defensive bone in him Adam - Not a defensive midfielder Afellay - Not a defensive midfielder Joe Allen - Not a defensive midfielder as it turns out. As I said previously Bojan has been chopped because we haven't properly replaced N'Zonzi, if he had a solid foundation behind him then he'd flourish, but that foundation has been made out of spit and jizz for too long and now we're in this position. 30% Bojan not playing well, 70% Hughes' recruitment policy is to blame here in my opinion. So essentially what you are saying is we should play 10 men and a passenger. Face facts, he's not the messiah, he's just an average footballer now. It's a shame but his injury has seemingly caused a mental scar and he doesn't seem to know how to rekindle the magic. If he's not the messiah he must be a very naughty boy
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