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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 23:07:03 GMT
You lot worry too much.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 3, 2017 23:07:50 GMT
Goal from Shawcross. Goal from Crouch. Two assists from Adam......name how many Hughes signings in that lot.
Whilst sitting behind him on the bench.....Affelay, Bojan, Shaqiri, Imbula......
Great money invested.
Progress.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 23:08:44 GMT
I'll tell yer what Void - Technology is an absolutely fabulous fuckin thing. In my day we never had a phone, never mind an internet service provider. Oh my Lord, how times have changed. Void - a little word in your ear, me old fruit .... Give this new tech stuff a try ... nobody will laugh at you....honest ..... Strange how I can never get a reception on my phone in the stadium and your earlier posts seem have been logged when the match was still in progress. What tech have you got, a teleporter? I did actually consider buying one of those teleporters but apparently they don't work. So, again i will whisper in yer ear "Don't get one, they are crap". Nothing is strange - I wasn't at the match.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2017 23:09:20 GMT
No complaints from the champions of hoofball. Only Arnie (when he stayed on his feet) maybe Adam offered anything like PL football offensively. No surprise that all around me in Block 12 they were shouting for Marko to come off. We're back to the Pulis days of percentage football and square pegs in round holes. Empty seats are a testament to that. Sad really when we have some real talent in the squad. Time to drop the 3 at the back - felt for Diouf tonight. Yeah, it had nothing to do with it being a night match & for the vast majority of people the first day of 'normality' after the Christmas holidays. That's a fair point, I admit.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2017 23:09:31 GMT
An absolutely horrible game of nogger.
We looked like a rabble of Sunday league players completely devoid of any meaningful coaching.
Fortunately Watford were a little bit worse than even that.
Of course we should be absolutely delighted with the three points and the very welcome clean sheet but that doesn't make any of the above any less true.
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Post by redwhite on Jan 3, 2017 23:09:47 GMT
I've felt better after losses. The result can't cloud over how much of a shocking game that was. We won that because Watford practically scored the goals for us. If Watford played like that every week they'd struggle in League 1 (has there been a worse premier league side come to the Brit?) and if we'd decided to use any of our skill that was sat on the bench in that game I'm confident we would've hit them for 5/6. Shocking that Hughes, with a comfortable 2-0 lead and the opposition doing nothing doesn't think to kill the game off by bringing Bojan or Shaq on, what on earth must they be thinking? Shocking that they weren't starting to be honest. Dreadful, dire football and if we play like that against anyone who can play a bit of football we'll get thrashed. Yes, there have been worse sides to come to the BET365 (Stupid fans can't even get the stadium name right and they expect the manager to listen to them?). At least according to the usual bunch of moaners on her, it seems that every time we win that question is raised. I've got news for you .... The song is "We're Stoke, We're Stoke, We're Stoke" not we're Real Madrid! If you want entertainment go to the circus. I';ll settle for the 3 points, Crouchie on 98 PL goals, finally a goal from ShawX, and 11th spot. Just to be clear ... that's 6 points off 6th spot (and probable UEFA place) but 9 points of 18th spot (and certain relegation). It wasn't pretty, could have been more, but at the end of the day, we have a lot to be happy about! What do they say about good teams can "win ugly"? Shit I forgot that choosing not to refer to the stadium by its awful new name made me stupid. Which sides have been worse? If football was actually only about results, 27,500 would turn up to the Bet 365 Stadium ( ) every week to watch a scoreboard for 90 minutes decide a random allocation of points and jump around in joy. That's not how football works though is it? 3 points is great and if this had been the FA cup final and we'd have won in that manner I'd have been over the moon. But it's a continuation of a trend of strange decisions and that's why I find it worrying. We play like that long term, we're going down. We were blessed to face horrendous opposition but Hughes still didn't fancy really taking the game to them by allowing some skill onto the pitch. That would be fine if it was a one off and he thought "what's the point/save them for harder games" but it's not. He's showing signs of wanting to play that way, with the same players/tactics/substitutions against anyone.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 3, 2017 23:09:49 GMT
Well documented problems and I didn't like the team at all but after as routine a win as you're ever going to get with no luck involved in the slightest, the manager has every right to tell everyone to fuck off tonight. That's papering over the cracks though. That isn't progress. He's getting results based on the players he inherited over 3 years ago. If that's the only reason MH is getting results (and achieving higher league placings), then Pulis must have been an absolute moron, because he had these same players at the height of their powers. Obviously both my retort and your original statement are about equal in the blatant nonsense category.
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Post by Royal Donut on Jan 3, 2017 23:11:55 GMT
Goal from Shawcross. Goal from Crouch. Two assists from Adam......name how many Hughes signings in that lot. Whilst sitting behind him on the bench.....Affelay, Bojan, Shaqiri, Imbula...... Great money invested. Progress. Yh like grant Bruno Allen Johnson I could go on but can't be arsed. Managers make good and bad signings get over it.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 3, 2017 23:13:05 GMT
Tonight raised more questions than it gave answers, really delighted with the 3 points but struggling to see what direction lmh is trying to take us, for me there is obvious regression in terms of performances and consistency this season, big, big transfer window and second half of the season for quite a few at the club I would have thought.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 3, 2017 23:13:21 GMT
An absolute horrible game of nogger.
We looked like a rabble of Sunday league players completely devoid of any meaningful coaching.
Fortunately Watford were a little bit worse than even that.
Of course we should be absolutely delighted with the three points and the very welcome clean sheet but that doesn't make any of the above any less true.
Nail on the head. We've completely lost our way and tonight's result shouldn't deter from that. The football is dire. The performance is dire. The team looks completely disjointed and all of the players he brought to the club to change the way we played are now sitting on the bench. He's invested a lot of money and has now reverted to what he inherited because what he's built isn't working anymore.
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Post by AlanHansen on Jan 3, 2017 23:13:27 GMT
This thread proves one thing, that most of the moaners don't actually go to the games! Yes it was poor, yes things ain't right but fuck we have a lot of internet fans! Nearly as many as Man U! Personally speaking I go to every home game and have been to touching 400 away games. Trust me that was abject tonight. Hughes has been losing the plot for nearly 12 months now and anyone not recognising that is deluded.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 3, 2017 23:16:12 GMT
Jesus, I'm confused as all hell from this thread. Sheikhmomo, Scrotnig and March etc happy about that result and other posters who are often more positive are livid including Redwhite, WhyDelilah, Deesidestokie. Here I am drinking my Whiskey thinking... It is the fucking way she goes boys. Am I missing something or do I just don't give a damn because Swansea won, Crystal Palace lost and Troy Deeney got elbows from Ryan all match?
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jan 3, 2017 23:16:38 GMT
I've never got the need for 'pretty' wins. A win is a win. You don't get more points if you win prettily. Football is all about the results - and we won tonight. I am only interested in that. So you don't want to be entertained? You're happy for some of the best players to wear the red and white to be sitting on their arses while headless chickens run round launching the ball in the general direction of Crouchs head? Thats fine-if agricultural football is your preference you're welcome to it. If it carries on like this, I'll go and watch the lads playing at Fenton Park next season. The qualitys the same and you can watch two games at once!
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Post by butlerstbob on Jan 3, 2017 23:17:31 GMT
This thread proves one thing, that most of the moaners don't actually go to the games! Yes it was poor, yes things ain't right but fuck we have a lot of internet fans! Nearly as many as Man U! Personally speaking I go to every home game and have been to touching 400 away games. Trust me that was abject tonight. Hughes has been losing the plot for nearly 12 months now and anyone not recognising that is deluded. I never said it wasn't! I actually said it was poor!! My point was the people who spend every minute on here moaning dont go to the games!
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Post by PB1863 on Jan 3, 2017 23:19:02 GMT
We won, kept a clean sheet and are equal 10th. I agree we have played better and lost and Walters could have scored a Hatrick but it's 3 points in the bag.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 23:19:17 GMT
the state of this thread
weve just won 2-0
ha
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 3, 2017 23:19:23 GMT
I think certain people are basing their current comments on their previous comments about players they don't like and an ex Manager they didn't like. It was three points, it was easy and that alone elevates it above a lot of the tripe we've seen lately.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 3, 2017 23:19:40 GMT
That's papering over the cracks though. That isn't progress. He's getting results based on the players he inherited over 3 years ago. It doesn't particularly matter which players he gets results with does it? I seem to remember a few of the star players on the bench today pitching up in Croydon against a side shitter than Watford four months ago and that didn't work too well. I don't disagree that he's lost his way this past year but it seems a particularly strange time to 'lose it' after a routine win. Absofuckinglutely. It's very rare I say things like this (nowadays) but some of the reactions on here TO A FUCKING WIN are an absolute embarrassment. It smacks of hissy fits being thrown because the team wasn't exactly what people wanted and they can't handle the fact that it actually worked. Properly pathetic.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 3, 2017 23:22:02 GMT
Yes, there have been worse sides to come to the BET365 (Stupid fans can't even get the stadium name right and they expect the manager to listen to them?). At least according to the usual bunch of moaners on her, it seems that every time we win that question is raised. I've got news for you .... The song is "We're Stoke, We're Stoke, We're Stoke" not we're Real Madrid! If you want entertainment go to the circus. I';ll settle for the 3 points, Crouchie on 98 PL goals, finally a goal from ShawX, and 11th spot. Just to be clear ... that's 6 points off 6th spot (and probable UEFA place) but 9 points of 18th spot (and certain relegation). It wasn't pretty, could have been more, but at the end of the day, we have a lot to be happy about! What do they say about good teams can "win ugly"? Shit I forgot that choosing not to refer to the stadium by its awful new name made me stupid. Which sides have been worse? If football was actually only about results, 27,500 would turn up to the Bet 365 Stadium ( ) every week to watch a scoreboard for 90 minutes decide a random allocation of points and jump around in joy. That's not how football works though is it? 3 points is great and if this had been the FA cup final and we'd have won in that manner I'd have been over the moon. But it's a continuation of a trend of strange decisions and that's why I find it worrying. We play like that long term, we're going down. We were blessed to face horrendous opposition but Hughes still didn't fancy really taking the game to them by allowing some skill onto the pitch. That would be fine if it was a one off and he thought "what's the point/save them for harder games" but it's not. He's showing signs of wanting to play that way, with the same players/tactics/substitutions against anyone. If you can't even remember/ get the stadium name right, what else can't you remember/get right? What credibility do you have? I highlighted which sides in red above. So the team plays crap, has crap players, a crap manager, a crap stadium name, ...... Is there anything about Stoke you actually like? Barring almost billion dollar investments, we are probably going down long term no matter who the manager is. Look at villa, leeds, newcastle, etc etc. Unless you are one of the big six, you are probably going to be relegated within the next 20 years, ... but not this year!! You talk of the horrendous opposition, but it seems to never enter your head that maybe, just maybe, the horrendous opposition had something to do with the team line-up? Maybe when Bojan Shaq, Imbula are fresh on Saturday, we will be thankful? Or is that just a cup game and not worth winning? Like I said, we have a lot to be happy about, and I choose to be happy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 23:22:14 GMT
Goal from Shawcross. Goal from Crouch. Two assists from Adam......name how many Hughes signings in that lot. Whilst sitting behind him on the bench.....Affelay, Bojan, Shaqiri, Imbula...... Great money invested. Progress. We will ignore grant indi Johnson pieters Diouf Allen and Arnie then eh? Only thing abysmal is your shit thread
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 3, 2017 23:24:26 GMT
I think certain people are basing their current comments on their previous comments about players they don't like and an ex Manager they didn't like. It was three points, it was easy and that alone elevates it above a lot of the tripe we've seen lately. I'm basing it on where I think Hughes is taking us. I'm basing it on the bizarre team selections and formations. He spends money and signs players then loses confidence in them. I can't fault the 9th place finishes. I've been his biggest fan. I think he's losing his way. That's why I wanted the last guy out. I don't enjoy it anymore.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jan 3, 2017 23:26:42 GMT
We were shit but thank god we are not Watford! Dreadful first half. It's not often you win 2-0 and feel dissatisfaction.
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Post by andrewguk on Jan 3, 2017 23:28:01 GMT
The support tonight was abysmal more like!
We have truly become Premier League fans.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2017 23:29:02 GMT
the state of this thread weve just won 2-0 ha I've defended Hughes to the hilt but I've not enjoyed a victory less since we beat Swansea post Valencia. A horrible game devoid of quality and inspiration. It was absolutely shite. We played far better when losing 4 to spurs, man city, Liverpool and Chelsea.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 3, 2017 23:29:37 GMT
I think certain people are basing their current comments on their previous comments about players they don't like and an ex Manager they didn't like. It was three points, it was easy and that alone elevates it above a lot of the tripe we've seen lately. I'm basing it on where I think Hughes is taking us. I'm basing it on the bizarre team selections and formations. He spends money and signs players then loses confidence in them. I can't fault the 9th place finishes. I've been his biggest fan. I think he's losing his way. That's why I wanted the last guy out. I don't enjoy it anymore. I share some of your concerns and have stated them myself but we did really well in periods against the future Champions 3 days ago and won at a canter tonight. After the Leicester embarrassment and basically giving up against Liverpool, I'm far more upbeat.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jan 3, 2017 23:30:35 GMT
Some fickle fuckers on here ....moaning their arses off for months that Hughes hasn't got a plan ' B '
Uses plan 'B' ...Crouch , Walters and Adam
Wins comfortably , keep a clean sheet and the usual whinging fannies are still out in force
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 23:30:51 GMT
Somewhat harsh this thread
even so, Im not happy either
MOM = a jOKE
Was Crouch actually - the guy still cqrries a true premeir league threat and was a credit to us tonight
and team selection again - somewaht bizarre to my eyes
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Post by sportsman on Jan 3, 2017 23:31:07 GMT
Goal from Shawcross. Goal from Crouch. Two assists from Adam......name how many Hughes signings in that lot. Whilst sitting behind him on the bench.....Affelay, Bojan, Shaqiri, Imbula...... Great money invested. Progress. FFS knob off.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 3, 2017 23:31:31 GMT
It doesn't particularly matter which players he gets results with does it? I seem to remember a few of the star players on the bench today pitching up in Croydon against a side shitter than Watford four months ago and that didn't work too well. I don't disagree that he's lost his way this past year but it seems a particularly strange time to 'lose it' after a routine win. Absofuckinglutely. It's very rare I say things like this (nowadays) but some of the reactions on here TO A FUCKING WIN are an absolute embarrassment. It smacks of hissy fits being thrown because the team wasn't exactly what people wanted and they can't handle the fact that it actually worked. Properly pathetic. Exactly. It's like watching a bunch of toddlers having tantrums because they didn't get exactly what they wanted for Christmas. It's a 2-0 win in the top-flight against a team who were 2 places higher than us at the start of the night. Sometimes you have to grind out a win in a poor game...we did, we won comfortably, we even kept a clean sheet... and yet I'm reading this absolute load of codswallop. Unbelievable.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2017 23:33:27 GMT
It doesn't particularly matter which players he gets results with does it? I seem to remember a few of the star players on the bench today pitching up in Croydon against a side shitter than Watford four months ago and that didn't work too well. I don't disagree that he's lost his way this past year but it seems a particularly strange time to 'lose it' after a routine win. Absofuckinglutely. It's very rare I say things like this (nowadays) but some of the reactions on here TO A FUCKING WIN are an absolute embarrassment. It smacks of hissy fits being thrown because the team wasn't exactly what people wanted and they can't handle the fact that it actually worked. Properly pathetic.
For what it's worth PL I think you are one of the most level headed posters on this forum and I always hold your posts in high regard for being sensible and well considered but (with the greatest of respect) I think you're being very harsh here mate.
I thought the 'football' we played tonight was absolutely awful, we looked like a team of complete misfits with no discernable plan whatsoever, playing against a team with (thankfully) even less of an idea about what it was all about.
We won but jeez it's hard to take too many (any?) positives away from the performance.
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