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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 3, 2017 18:43:45 GMT
League 2 has some gems every now and then and some real shitty players too. Could be worth it. Could be like panning for gold, or could be like digging for shit. Never heard of him but hope he is Kante'sque.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 19:02:03 GMT
Looks gruesome to me too^
Has that runaway train thing about him, I'm sold.
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Post by slother on Jan 3, 2017 19:56:51 GMT
N'Golo Kante was signed from Stade Caen, having been there for only two seasons - one of which was in L2. Before that he was in the third tier with Boulogne. Our very own Steven N'Zonzi signed for Blackburn from Amiens, who were just relegated to the French third tier also. I haven't got a clue what level of football most of these video's are, but this lad looks like a monster. I'm definitely in, Clive. My stereo used to do that I just found that if you give the disc a good wipe with a damp rag it will sort itself out. Looks a strong player. All depends whether he's willing and able to learn how to play to a PL standard. And whether our coaches are able to coach anyone to do anything, because if there's a single problem at the club at the moment, I'd say it's that. Not exactly training national winners are we.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 3, 2017 21:05:08 GMT
I think he looks ideal.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 4, 2017 9:11:09 GMT
I don't expect we have heard the last of this. One trait Hughes has demonstrated is that when he decides he wants a playing, he doggedly keeps up the pursuit after him until the end (bitter or otherwise).
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Post by philb on Jan 4, 2017 9:32:43 GMT
As impressive as it is seeing a defensive midfielder being strong and powerful with the ball I want to see a disciplined centre midfielder who's primary focus is on stopping the opposition from playing, who has energy to cover some of the lazy players and who doesn't really have much interest in taking on a man, scoring a goal, doing a Beckham/Gerrard long range pass. We'd have better balance to the team through a poor mans Makelele, like Geoff Cameron has been or Rory Delap was, or a very very poor mans Makelele like Diao/Whitehead were for us. Charlie does all of that!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 6, 2017 21:31:27 GMT
www.courrier-picard.fr/sports/football-pourquoi-tinhan-meilleur-buteur-d-amiens-ia202b0n909637A first departure, followed maybe by a second with that of Guessouma Fofana, certainly in Stoke City. As a partner of L'Asc, the English club signed a convention in December 2016. Two young French players belonging to them are at the training center, under an incubator in some way, and this has a price, close to 75,000 euros. Can't really work out what this is saying, but suggests we've signed some sort of partnership agreement with Amiens and sent 2 young French players there?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 21:37:11 GMT
www.courrier-picard.fr/sports/football-pourquoi-tinhan-meilleur-buteur-d-amiens-ia202b0n909637A first departure, followed maybe by a second with that of Guessouma Fofana, certainly in Stoke City. As a partner of L'Asc, the English club signed a convention in December 2016. Two young French players belonging to them are at the training center, under an incubator in some way, and this has a price, close to 75,000 euros. Can't really work out what this is saying, but suggests we've signed some sort of partnership agreement with Amiens and sent 2 young French players there? Lecygne and Abdallah?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 6, 2017 21:39:00 GMT
www.courrier-picard.fr/sports/football-pourquoi-tinhan-meilleur-buteur-d-amiens-ia202b0n909637A first departure, followed maybe by a second with that of Guessouma Fofana, certainly in Stoke City. As a partner of L'Asc, the English club signed a convention in December 2016. Two young French players belonging to them are at the training center, under an incubator in some way, and this has a price, close to 75,000 euros. Can't really work out what this is saying, but suggests we've signed some sort of partnership agreement with Amiens and sent 2 young French players there? I read that as involving "xyz" and also Fofana possibly coming to us?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 6, 2017 21:39:06 GMT
Looks quick and athletic something that we're really lacking in the middle. Cant see him being expensive so I'm in.
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Post by hchpotter on Jan 6, 2017 21:57:07 GMT
1. We already have tonnes of midfielders. 2. This bloke has only been chosen to start 10 times this season in a division that is vastly inferior to the league we play in. 3. He's not a kiddie. He's 24.
No thanks.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 6, 2017 22:51:05 GMT
www.courrier-picard.fr/sports/football-pourquoi-tinhan-meilleur-buteur-d-amiens-ia202b0n909637A first departure, followed maybe by a second with that of Guessouma Fofana, certainly in Stoke City. As a partner of L'Asc, the English club signed a convention in December 2016. Two young French players belonging to them are at the training center, under an incubator in some way, and this has a price, close to 75,000 euros. Can't really work out what this is saying, but suggests we've signed some sort of partnership agreement with Amiens and sent 2 young French players there? So sold them?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 6, 2017 23:04:16 GMT
www.courrier-picard.fr/sports/football-pourquoi-tinhan-meilleur-buteur-d-amiens-ia202b0n909637A first departure, followed maybe by a second with that of Guessouma Fofana, certainly in Stoke City. As a partner of L'Asc, the English club signed a convention in December 2016. Two young French players belonging to them are at the training center, under an incubator in some way, and this has a price, close to 75,000 euros. Can't really work out what this is saying, but suggests we've signed some sort of partnership agreement with Amiens and sent 2 young French players there? So sold them? Un premier départ suivi peut-être d’un deuxième avec celui de Guessouma Fofana, certainement à Stoke City. Partenaire de l’ASC, le club anglais a signé en décembre 2016 une convention. Deux jeunes joueurs français leur appartenant sont au centre de formation, sous couveuse en quelque sorte, et cela a un prix, près de 75 000 euros.
En vendant Tinhan et peut-être Fofana, le club amiénois va réaliser une opération financière intéressante mais ne va-t-il pas s’appauvrir sportivement ? Réponse lors des matches retour
This mention of them being 'under an incubator' suggest some kind of loan/development arrangement. But no idea where the 75k fits in (or Fofana for that matter) or whether it's people a long way up our food chain like Abdallah/Lecygne or some younger players - or even whether it's us doing the sending, or vice-versa. To be fair, the journo doesn't seem to know that much either. So...in short..Je ne sais pas!
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Post by tosh on Jan 6, 2017 23:53:33 GMT
www.courrier-picard.fr/sports/football-pourquoi-tinhan-meilleur-buteur-d-amiens-ia202b0n909637A first departure, followed maybe by a second with that of Guessouma Fofana, certainly in Stoke City. As a partner of L'Asc, the English club signed a convention in December 2016. Two young French players belonging to them are at the training center, under an incubator in some way, and this has a price, close to 75,000 euros. Can't really work out what this is saying, but suggests we've signed some sort of partnership agreement with Amiens and sent 2 young French players there? Lecygne and Abdallah?
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Post by tosh on Jan 6, 2017 23:56:27 GMT
The article says Amiens are selling there best striker to Troyes and there is an agreement for another young player, Fofana to come to Stoke. The coach does not want to release them but the board require this for financial reasons.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 7, 2017 1:27:35 GMT
Un premier départ suivi peut-être d’un deuxième avec celui de Guessouma Fofana, certainement à Stoke City. Partenaire de l’ASC, le club anglais a signé en décembre 2016 une convention. Deux jeunes joueurs français leur appartenant sont au centre de formation, sous couveuse en quelque sorte, et cela a un prix, près de 75 000 euros.
En vendant Tinhan et peut-être Fofana, le club amiénois va réaliser une opération financière intéressante mais ne va-t-il pas s’appauvrir sportivement ? Réponse lors des matches retour
This mention of them being 'under an incubator' suggest some kind of loan/development arrangement. But no idea where the 75k fits in (or Fofana for that matter) or whether it's people a long way up our food chain like Abdallah/Lecygne or some younger players - or even whether it's us doing the sending, or vice-versa. To be fair, the journo doesn't seem to know that much either. So...in short..Je ne sais pas! I'm sure there was talk of our interest in two young players from France when N'Zonzi left. At the time of the VGinkel loan. Never any clarity at that stage whether they were potential loanees or ones for the Academy. I'm shit at linking and digging, but I'm sure it was one of yr bits of fine research.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 7, 2017 6:13:26 GMT
Even I look a million dollars on YouTube.. The jury's still out with this one... Any player that passes the ball forward wouldn't fit in anyway !😉
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 7, 2017 21:59:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 22:26:17 GMT
Not clear who he's going to though as Villa and Norwich also mentioned as well as Stoke.
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Post by scfc5 on Jan 7, 2017 22:29:56 GMT
Google Translate: Guessouma Fofana, the midfielder of the Amiens SC, will leave the Amiens SC and take the lead of the English championship. No doubt in Stoke City (Premier League), partner of the club friend, or even Aston Villa or Norwich, two clubs of the second division. On the eve of the resumption of training, he was not aware of anything but events rushed this week. He is scheduled to play in his last match on Saturday 14 January (15 hours) against Strasbourg and his transfer fee should be consistent and higher because he has one contract year left, that of Jonathan Tinhan, The top scorer, who signed in Troyes.
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Post by scfc5 on Jan 7, 2017 22:32:04 GMT
I like that we have a partnership with them. Must put us at the front of the queue and somewhere good for our French-speaking academy lads to head on loan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 22:35:40 GMT
Does anyone want a cut price Gianelli BooBoo for a reduced Guessy Foufou?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 8, 2017 12:36:03 GMT
Not sure this interpretation of the story is entirely accurate based on the article. The journo of the Amiens local paper doesn't seem to know where he's going apart from it's to England.
If L'Equipe are correct we've made a bid, we must be favourites, especially if we do have some kind of partnership with them.
Is he one who could come into the first team immediately? Who knows!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 12:37:02 GMT
Not sure this interpretation of the story is entirely accurate based on the article. The journo of the Amiens local paper doesn't seem to know where he's going apart from it's to England. If L'Equipe are correct we've made a bid, we must be favourites. Is he one who could come into the first team immediately? Who knows! Could be an excellent, shrewd acquisition. But you feel he probably would be brought in gradually rather than thrown in immediately so who knows.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 8, 2017 13:26:29 GMT
Didn't Hughes state that we had enough squad players and that anyone that was brought in would have to be first 11 material?
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Post by Stokester on Jan 8, 2017 13:57:21 GMT
Has a fee been mentioned at all? You've have to think it wouldn't be much.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 8, 2017 14:25:22 GMT
1. We already have tonnes of midfielders. 2. This bloke has only been chosen to start 10 times this season in a division that is vastly inferior to the league we play in. 3. He's not a kiddie. He's 24. No thanks. 1 - we only have 1 x DM (Whelan) who has been a great servant but is too slow, doesn't look forward. 2 - Hes coming from the same div as Kante who was no kid when he was signed. Could have been injured. 3 - At 24 he should be coming into his peak so shouldn't need much development. Plus he's low risk because he will only be around 1m.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 8, 2017 14:38:41 GMT
1. We already have tonnes of midfielders. 2. This bloke has only been chosen to start 10 times this season in a division that is vastly inferior to the league we play in. 3. He's not a kiddie. He's 24. No thanks. 1 - we only have 1 x DM (Whelan) who has been a great servant but is too slow, doesn't look forward. 2 - Hes coming from the same div as Kante who was no kid when he was signed. Could have been injured. 3 - At 24 he should be coming into his peak so shouldn't need much development. Kante was playing in Ligue 1 when Leicester signed him.
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Post by themistocles on Jan 8, 2017 14:42:10 GMT
Stop comparing this guy to Kante. Kante was top of the defensive stats for players for 2 years
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 8, 2017 14:47:35 GMT
I just think it's unfair to write him off before he signs. There's plenty of players who've come from nowhere and turned out to be brilliant signings. Players who were written off as not being good enough. I remember when we signed Steino I thought oh great an Oxford U reject and looked what happened there. Lee Dixon from Bury was a 23 year old journeyman when we signed him. Just because he's not from Barcelona or Seria A doesn't mean we should write him off.
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