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Post by Hiram on Feb 5, 2017 6:37:50 GMT
Paul Farrelly was elected on 38℅ of the vote in N-u-L. Brexit 'won' 63-37 in N-U-L. How dare Paul Farrelly vote the way all the people who voted for him wanted him to vote and not the way all the people who voted against him wanted him to vote.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 16:01:12 GMT
Paul Farrelly was elected on 38℅ of the vote in N-u-L. Brexit 'won' 63-37 in N-U-L. How dare Paul Farrelly vote the way all the people who voted for him wanted him to vote and not the way all the people who voted against him wanted him to vote. He is actually standing up for 25% of his constituency, going by 2 thirds of labour voters went remain across the country. This could well be less and more likely so. It's fair to say he thinks he knows better than 75% + of his constituency but backs 66% of his voters. Could that be classed as inward looking?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 7, 2017 9:27:52 GMT
So Farrelly was a guest at the Newcastle Staffs Rugby Club end of season dinner on Friday night. When introduced they said "We're glad you could make it tonight because you won't be around next year"
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 7, 2017 9:30:00 GMT
So Farrelly was a guest at the Newcastle Staffs Rugby Club end of season dinner on Friday night. When introduced they said "We're glad you could make it tonight because you won't be around next year" Hopefully, you'll be going next year?!
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Post by 3putts on May 7, 2017 9:37:49 GMT
at least he stands and votes for what he believes in. rather than voting to be popular. if he loses his seat it will be a sad day for newcastle u lyme. we are sleepwalking into another thatcher 5 years and that went really well for this area didnt it??
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Post by shawi on May 7, 2017 10:14:48 GMT
At least Mr Farrelly has got some sense & realises Brexit is & will be a complete disaster for what is now the UK.....................shortly to be called " Little England "
Anyway, let's keep it to football
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 7, 2017 10:37:30 GMT
at least he stands and votes for what he believes in. rather than voting to be popular. if he loses his seat it will be a sad day for newcastle u lyme. we are sleepwalking into another thatcher 5 years and that went really well for this area didnt it?? There's been a Labour MP here for about 100 years. The Borough council has been predominately Labour. There were 10 years of Blair's Labour Government. From Lin Golding having about a 20,000 majority to Farrelly with only 650 the demise is local and Labour's only. Thatcher left office 27 years ago.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 7, 2017 10:38:53 GMT
So Farrelly was a guest at the Newcastle Staffs Rugby Club end of season dinner on Friday night. When introduced they said "We're glad you could make it tonight because you won't be around next year" Hopefully, you'll be going next year?! I shall be at the Rugby dinner next year thanks Nicholas
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 7, 2017 10:39:33 GMT
At least Mr Farrelly has got some sense & realises Brexit is & will be a complete disaster for what is now the UK.....................shortly to be called " Little England " Anyway, let's keep it to football Have a listen to this Little Englander, from 6.30 onwards if you don't want to hear the whole inspiring speech, from a person diametrically opposed to Farage Anyway, it doesn't matter if it does not fit the agenda, eh?
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Post by essexstokey on May 7, 2017 10:39:59 GMT
at least he stands and votes for what he believes in. rather than voting to be popular. if he loses his seat it will be a sad day for newcastle u lyme. we are sleepwalking into another thatcher 5 years and that went really well for this area didnt it?? With all the changes the Tories want to bring in to voting eg people who have lived outside the country for 15 years getting a vote, boundary changes, votes for English laws just being English MPS this is more likely to be 15-20 years its important that we don't let this happen otherwise we will look forward to further austerity a bankrupt country and assets being sold off to there mates in the city. Ask yourself do you want a national health service, more police, etc if so you need to vote against the Tories. If you want privatisation, cuts in tax for the rich, selling off of national assets to there mates in the city, cuts in benefits, cuts to police, rising crime rates etc then vote for them. The conservatives think that they can buy the election again! prove them wrong!
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Post by thevoid on May 7, 2017 10:42:58 GMT
What's this Little England bollocks anyway? Wales voted overwhelmingly to leave too.
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Post by shawi on May 7, 2017 11:18:00 GMT
Wales - 772K - 47% voted to remain; 855K - 53% voted to leave Hardly " Overwhelming"
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Post by followyoudown on May 7, 2017 12:08:16 GMT
at least he stands and votes for what he believes in. rather than voting to be popular. if he loses his seat it will be a sad day for newcastle u lyme. we are sleepwalking into another thatcher 5 years and that went really well for this area didnt it?? There's been a Labour MP here for about 100 years. The Borough council has been predominately Labour. There were 10 years of Blair's Labour Government. From Lin Golding having about a 20,000 majority to Farrelly with only 650 the demise is local and Labour's only. Thatcher left office 27 years ago. www.buzzfeed.com/emilydugan/this-town-has-been-labour-since-1919-its-about-to-switch-to?utm_term=.uhj33V8ko2#.huJxxwnq1YA long but interesting article it seems Labour are doomed and nothing to do with brexit either.
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Post by Dutchpeter on May 7, 2017 12:52:30 GMT
It's interesting that they cite an increasing middle class in the borough as one of the reasons for the potential swing to the Conservatives. I feel that the heavily London/middle class Labour Party actually dislikes working class people. If Labour had any sense Keir Starmer will be leader in a few weeks. However, I feel a future leader will emerge from the London protest clique with no popular appeal beyond that group. For a lot of people in the town there is no one to vote for.
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Post by essexstokey on May 7, 2017 13:30:40 GMT
It's interesting that they cite an increasing middle class in the borough as one of the reasons for the potential swing to the Conservatives. I feel that the heavily London/middle class Labour Party actually dislikes working class people. If Labour had any sense Keir Starmer will be leader in a few weeks. However, I feel a future leader will emerge from the London protest clique with no popular appeal beyond that group. For a lot of people in the town there is no one to vote for. Unfortunately because of the left and momentum can see john McDonald becoming leader if Corbin go's then there will be a split and a new party formed a centre left party set up by Blair with a lot of Labour MP's joining
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Post by Dutchpeter on May 7, 2017 13:36:03 GMT
It's interesting that they cite an increasing middle class in the borough as one of the reasons for the potential swing to the Conservatives. I feel that the heavily London/middle class Labour Party actually dislikes working class people. If Labour had any sense Keir Starmer will be leader in a few weeks. However, I feel a future leader will emerge from the London protest clique with no popular appeal beyond that group. For a lot of people in the town there is no one to vote for. Unfortunately because of the left and momentum can see john McDonald becoming leader if Corbin go's then there will be a split and a new party formed a centre left party set up by Blair with a lot of Labour MP's joining I can see a right/centre Labour splinter, I think you're right. I can see it having more legs than the SDP, because there may not be a modern equivalent of John Golding et al, to fight back and regain control of the party. However, any party lead by Tony Blair would be dead in the water. I'm afraid his baggage will be with him for the rest of his life.
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Post by essexstokey on May 7, 2017 13:45:17 GMT
Unfortunately because of the left and momentum can see john McDonald becoming leader if Corbin go's then there will be a split and a new party formed a centre left party set up by Blair with a lot of Labour MP's joining I can see a right/centre Labour splinter, I think you're right. I can see it having more legs than the SDP, because there may not be a modern equivalent of John Golding et al, to fight back and regain control of the party. However, any party lead by Tony Blair would be dead in the water. I'm afraid his baggage will be with him for the rest of his life. Don't actually think he will lead it but think he will set it up get the funding etc and act as an elder statesman I also think a lot of Labours older moderate ex MP's will give it clout as a lot hate what's happening to Labour it will be Labour in all but name with the far Left that Kinnock, smith, etc kicked out of the party but came back in and support Corbin being left to die together with the Labour name. Probably being called the Social Democrats?
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Post by felonious on May 7, 2017 14:01:48 GMT
That's a fairly damning inditement of Corbyn.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 7, 2017 23:18:35 GMT
"Farrelly is unrepentant about voting against the referendum, insisting that holding it “was a bad idea”. His conviction politics will be admired by some, but in a Eurosceptic constituency, it risks being political suicide, a fact that hasn’t escaped him."
“The problem here," he says, "is the biggest Leave votes in the constituency are in the Labour wards and this is a challenge. That’s where the biggest votes for UKIP are.”
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Post by felonious on May 8, 2017 7:23:36 GMT
"Farrelly is unrepentant about voting against the referendum, insisting that holding it “was a bad idea”. His conviction politics will be admired by some, but in a Eurosceptic constituency, it risks being political suicide, a fact that hasn’t escaped him."
“The problem here," he says, "is the biggest Leave votes in the constituency are in the Labour wards and this is a challenge. That’s where the biggest votes for UKIP are.” I thought this bit sums up his problem quite succinctly.
He adds: “There’s no doubt that with this government we could and should be doing much, much better.” But he knows even friends and those who support him as an MP will struggle to vote for him if they do not support his party’s leadership.
He recalls: “My mum died just before the election in 2015 in Bradwell hospital. One of her neighbours said, ‘Sorry Paul, not this time, nothing personal, I just don’t like your leader.'"
Corbyn is absent from all Farrelly’s campaign literature and the candidate struggles to contain his frustration at the leader and his entourage. “It’s not helpful when people like Diane [Abbott] get rolled out and don’t do their homework for interviews, but we have to fight with what we’ve got.”
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Post by 3putts on May 8, 2017 8:37:11 GMT
at least he stands and votes for what he believes in. rather than voting to be popular. if he loses his seat it will be a sad day for newcastle u lyme. we are sleepwalking into another thatcher 5 years and that went really well for this area didnt it?? There's been a Labour MP here for about 100 years. The Borough council has been predominately Labour. There were 10 years of Blair's Labour Government. From Lin Golding having about a 20,000 majority to Farrelly with only 650 the demise is local and Labour's only. Thatcher left office 27 years ago. she may have left 27 years ago but we are still paying the price.we know have a generation of families who have never known what it is like to do a days work.instead relying on benefits thatcher caused the destruction of our heavy industries throwing 1,000s on the scrapheap.
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Post by followyoudown on May 8, 2017 9:04:21 GMT
"Farrelly is unrepentant about voting against the referendum, insisting that holding it “was a bad idea”. His conviction politics will be admired by some, but in a Eurosceptic constituency, it risks being political suicide, a fact that hasn’t escaped him."
“The problem here," he says, "is the biggest Leave votes in the constituency are in the Labour wards and this is a challenge. That’s where the biggest votes for UKIP are.” I thought this bit sums up his problem quite succinctly.
He adds: “There’s no doubt that with this government we could and should be doing much, much better.” But he knows even friends and those who support him as an MP will struggle to vote for him if they do not support his party’s leadership.
He recalls: “My mum died just before the election in 2015 in Bradwell hospital. One of her neighbours said, ‘Sorry Paul, not this time, nothing personal, I just don’t like your leader.'"
Corbyn is absent from all Farrelly’s campaign literature and the candidate struggles to contain his frustration at the leader and his entourage. “It’s not helpful when people like Diane [Abbott] get rolled out and don’t do their homework for interviews, but we have to fight with what we’ve got.”
There's the very interesting comparison May is all over the Tory literature and in fact I believe in many cases potential MPs are described as Theresa' s local candidate rather than the conservative party candidate. As an aside Labour candidates couldn't put a picture with Corbyn on their literature even if they wanted too as his team didn't organise a photo shoot.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 8, 2017 11:08:07 GMT
Hopefully, you'll be going next year?! I shall be at the Rugby dinner next year thanks Nicholas I've got a question for you as Brexshitter-in-Chief? If you left the Rugby Club would you expect to receive the same benefits as if you remain a Club member? Would you expect to gain entrance free of charge? Would the Club expect you to clear any debts/commitments you have/made with them? Though, I concede even you wouldn't expect voting rights! Just asking like?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 8, 2017 11:13:51 GMT
"Farrelly is unrepentant about voting against the referendum, insisting that holding it “was a bad idea”. His conviction politics will be admired by some, but in a Eurosceptic constituency, it risks being political suicide, a fact that hasn’t escaped him."
“The problem here," he says, "is the biggest Leave votes in the constituency are in the Labour wards and this is a challenge. That’s where the biggest votes for UKIP are.” I thought this bit sums up his problem quite succinctly.
He adds: “There’s no doubt that with this government we could and should be doing much, much better.” But he knows even friends and those who support him as an MP will struggle to vote for him if they do not support his party’s leadership.
He recalls: “My mum died just before the election in 2015 in Bradwell hospital. One of her neighbours said, ‘Sorry Paul, not this time, nothing personal, I just don’t like your leader.'"
Corbyn is absent from all Farrelly’s campaign literature and the candidate struggles to contain his frustration at the leader and his entourage. “It’s not helpful when people like Diane [Abbott] get rolled out and don’t do their homework for interviews, but we have to fight with what we’ve got.”
Better a good, local Labour M.P. than one of these Tory nodding donkey's we see at Chicken May's photo calls! The Tory candidate in Newcastle was a candidate for the Wales Assembly? Doesn't he know Offa's Dyke's the other side of Shropshire?
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Post by Northy on May 8, 2017 11:53:09 GMT
I thought this bit sums up his problem quite succinctly.
He adds: “There’s no doubt that with this government we could and should be doing much, much better.” But he knows even friends and those who support him as an MP will struggle to vote for him if they do not support his party’s leadership.
He recalls: “My mum died just before the election in 2015 in Bradwell hospital. One of her neighbours said, ‘Sorry Paul, not this time, nothing personal, I just don’t like your leader.'"
Corbyn is absent from all Farrelly’s campaign literature and the candidate struggles to contain his frustration at the leader and his entourage. “It’s not helpful when people like Diane [Abbott] get rolled out and don’t do their homework for interviews, but we have to fight with what we’ve got.”
Better a good, local Labour M.P. than one of these Tory nodding donkey's we see at Chicken May's photo calls! The Tory candidate in Newcastle was a candidate for the Wales Assembly? Doesn't he know Offa's Dyke's the other side of Shropshire? So a bit like labour MP for Stoke North, Scottish Ruth Smeeth who resigned her post as Parliamentary Private Secretary to the shadow Northern Ireland and Scotland teams, alongside others in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership Or Stoke on Trent central MP Gareth Snell from Stowmarket Or Stoke on trent South MP from Birmingham I would of thought you'd like Owen Meredith, a Keele Uni graduate, lived in Silverdale, raises money for Battersea knackered old dogs and cats home
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 8, 2017 11:57:19 GMT
I thought this bit sums up his problem quite succinctly.
He adds: “There’s no doubt that with this government we could and should be doing much, much better.” But he knows even friends and those who support him as an MP will struggle to vote for him if they do not support his party’s leadership.
He recalls: “My mum died just before the election in 2015 in Bradwell hospital. One of her neighbours said, ‘Sorry Paul, not this time, nothing personal, I just don’t like your leader.'"
Corbyn is absent from all Farrelly’s campaign literature and the candidate struggles to contain his frustration at the leader and his entourage. “It’s not helpful when people like Diane [Abbott] get rolled out and don’t do their homework for interviews, but we have to fight with what we’ve got.”
Better a good, local Labour M.P. than one of these Tory nodding donkey's we see at Chicken May's photo calls! The Tory candidate in Newcastle was a candidate for the Wales Assembly? Doesn't he know Offa's Dyke's the other side of Shropshire? Come on Nicholas J, a little bit of research please. Owen Meredith, he's Welsh see. Who's jacket's this coat? A Welsher with an interest in Conservative politics. "State educated, grew up in a village in Caerphilly; his mother taught deaf children in primary school and was a senior schools inspector before she died of cancer 10 years ago. His father ran a quantity surveying business in Cardiff that weathered the recession." - Courtesy of FYD.... N-U-L campaign Keele Uni education, first house in Silverdale, worked in Morrisons when it wasn't even posh and called Safeways He's gay as well if that's of any consequence. I think it's quite refreshing that that's not going to be an issue. Now works in the dreaded Media industry in London and has done some intern work at Westminster. So humble beginnings, worked through Uni, interested in politics with some experience of Westminster but has had a proper job, young and friendly apparently. I think he represents a present day Newcastle-under-Lyme perfectly.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 8, 2017 12:00:51 GMT
Better a good, local Labour M.P. than one of these Tory nodding donkey's we see at Chicken May's photo calls! The Tory candidate in Newcastle was a candidate for the Wales Assembly? Doesn't he know Offa's Dyke's the other side of Shropshire? So a bit like labour MP for Stoke North, Scottish Ruth Smeeth who resigned her post as Parliamentary Private Secretary to the shadow Northern Ireland and Scotland teams, alongside others in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership Or Stoke on Trent central MP Gareth Snell from Stowmarket Or Stoke on trent South MP from Birmingham I would of thought you'd like Owen Meredith, a Keele Uni graduate, lived in Silverdale, raises money for Battersea knackered old dogs and cats home Owen Meredith raises money for dogs and cats? Well, we've got a no animals clause in our lease but one of my neighbours had a cat flap installed without permission and now her two cats damage the plants and shit in the garden. So, instead of, as a Welsh Tory, pestering the sheep in Loggerheads he needs to get down to my flats in south east London and get my neighbour's cats into the Battersea home!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 8, 2017 12:08:18 GMT
I shall be at the Rugby dinner next year thanks Nicholas I've got a question for you as Brexshitter-in-Chief? If you left the Rugby Club would you expect to receive the same benefits as if you remain a Club member? Would you expect to gain entrance free of charge? Would the Club expect you to clear any debts/commitments you have/made with them? Though, I concede even you wouldn't expect voting rights! Just asking like? Is that the club where I've been paying most of the other players subs for the last 40 years but since I told them I'm leaving they've been arseholes?
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Post by felonious on May 8, 2017 12:10:02 GMT
I thought this bit sums up his problem quite succinctly.
He adds: “There’s no doubt that with this government we could and should be doing much, much better.” But he knows even friends and those who support him as an MP will struggle to vote for him if they do not support his party’s leadership.
He recalls: “My mum died just before the election in 2015 in Bradwell hospital. One of her neighbours said, ‘Sorry Paul, not this time, nothing personal, I just don’t like your leader.'"
Corbyn is absent from all Farrelly’s campaign literature and the candidate struggles to contain his frustration at the leader and his entourage. “It’s not helpful when people like Diane [Abbott] get rolled out and don’t do their homework for interviews, but we have to fight with what we’ve got.”
Better a good, local Labour M.P. than one of these Tory nodding donkey's we see at Chicken May's photo calls! The Tory candidate in Newcastle was a candidate for the Wales Assembly? Doesn't he know Offa's Dyke's the other side of Shropshire? He went to Keele university and lived in Silverdale.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 8, 2017 12:13:09 GMT
Better a good, local Labour M.P. than one of these Tory nodding donkey's we see at Chicken May's photo calls! The Tory candidate in Newcastle was a candidate for the Wales Assembly? Doesn't he know Offa's Dyke's the other side of Shropshire? Come on Nicholas J, a little bit of research please. Owen Meredith, he's Welsh see. Who's jacket's this coat? A Welsher with an interest in Conservative politics. "State educated, grew up in a village in Caerphilly; his mother taught deaf children in primary school and was a senior schools inspector before she died of cancer 10 years ago. His father ran a quantity surveying business in Cardiff that weathered the recession." - Courtesy of FYD.... N-U-L campaign Keele Uni education, first house in Silverdale, worked in Morrisons when it wasn't even posh and called Safeways He's gay as well if that's of any consequence. I think it's quite refreshing that that's not going to be an issue. Now works in the dreaded Media industry in London and has done some intern work at Westminster. So humble beginnings, worked through Uni, interested in politics with some experience of Westminster but has had a proper job, young and friendly apparently. I think he represents a present day Newcastle-under-Lyme perfectly. 1. Having had two professionals as parents does not mean you came from humble beginnings. Far from it! 2.Safeways was posher than Morrison's! 3.He's gay? So he prefers men to sheep? Is this a 'Guinness Book of Records' for a Welsh Tory? 4.He works in PR. The dreaded new name for the conman's profession. You forgot to mention he's an Essex councillor(or was?). So his roots are in Wales and Essex/London apart from a few years at uni? Wow, for you to portray him as a natural heir to the great Liberal/Labour M.P.s Newcastle-u-Lyme has had takes a talent even your namesake Dr. Goebbels didn't have..chutzpah!
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