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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 26, 2016 8:23:42 GMT
I think we should stick with Diouf personally because it's not like he's been missing chances deserves to be dropped, he just hasn't had any in the two games we've played so far. Can't fault his effort either he puts in a great shift. He missed a sitter vs Man City. Not even on target. My memory must be failing me, I still think he doesn't deserve to be dropped at the moment though.
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Post by Davef on Aug 26, 2016 8:37:05 GMT
Back to the future 3, I love big Pete but is this the way Hughes is taking us ![(slaphead)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/x7GhxArXJzjvmIlugu2X.gif) we are fast becoming a laughing stock. Nearly a decade in the Premier League... three consecutive top ten positions... barely mentioned when the relegation places are predicted. We are nowhere near "fast becoming a laughing stock", even if we do give Crouch another twelve months. In fact, I'd say the only way we'd fast become a laughing stock is if neutrals ventured onto this message board in their thousands and read some of the utter arse gravy that's posted.
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2016 9:19:12 GMT
Keeping Crouch for another 12 months is a no brainer imo. He still offers a totally unique option, which we saw against Liverpool last season. His legs are gone, but his ability to beat people in the air hasn't.
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Post by pez75 on Aug 26, 2016 9:25:13 GMT
I think we should stick with Diouf personally because it's not like he's been missing chances deserves to be dropped, he just hasn't had any in the two games we've played so far. Can't fault his effort either he puts in a great shift. Fuck me, we are back to the Andy Cooke scenario. Give me a game, I am reasonably fit even at 41 - I can 'put in a shift' ![O_o](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cGxK1LQ3mbwGz59PPCrG.gif) Diouf's contribution (other than lots of running) in the last two games has been less than fuck all. I personally think he is toss, but even with my neutral glasses on it is obvious that our game does not suit him. At least if Crouch plays the ball will stick up top and make it to another red & white shirt.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 26, 2016 9:31:19 GMT
Back to the future 3, I love big Pete but is this the way Hughes is taking us (slaphead) we are fast becoming a laughing stock.Only in your (fucking deluded) head.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 9:46:32 GMT
Back to the future 3, I love big Pete but is this the way Hughes is taking us ![(slaphead)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/x7GhxArXJzjvmIlugu2X.gif) we are fast becoming a laughing stock. Nearly a decade in the Premier League... three consecutive top ten positions... barely mentioned when the relegation places are predicted. We are nowhere near "fast becoming a laughing stock", even if we do give Crouch another twelve months. In fact, I'd say the only way we'd fast become a laughing stock is if neutrals ventured onto this message board in their thousands and read some of the utter arse gravy that's posted. Didn't we extend his contract last season ?, then played him a handful of times WTF was that about, we sell our players on the cheap, can't defend, can't score but keep signing midfielders do you think that is how we should be running the club ?
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Post by pez75 on Aug 26, 2016 10:00:15 GMT
Nearly a decade in the Premier League... three consecutive top ten positions... barely mentioned when the relegation places are predicted. We are nowhere near "fast becoming a laughing stock", even if we do give Crouch another twelve months. In fact, I'd say the only way we'd fast become a laughing stock is if neutrals ventured onto this message board in their thousands and read some of the utter arse gravy that's posted. Didn't we extend his contract last season ?, then played him a handful of times WTF was that about, we sell our players on the cheap, can't defend, can't score but keep signing midfielders do you think that is how we should be running the club ? If it keeps us comfortably in the Premier League - then yes!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 26, 2016 10:09:27 GMT
I think we should stick with Diouf personally because it's not like he's been missing chances deserves to be dropped, he just hasn't had any in the two games we've played so far. Can't fault his effort either he puts in a great shift. Fuck me, we are back to the Andy Cooke scenario. Give me a game, I am reasonably fit even at 41 - I can 'put in a shift' Diouf's contribution (other than lots of running) in the last two games has been less than fuck all. I personally think he is toss, but even with my neutral glasses on it is obvious that our game does not suit him. At least if Crouch plays the ball will stick up top and make it to another red & white shirt. I'm not saying keep him just because he runs around a lot, I've also said it's not like he's been missing chances (other than 1 vs City). We need to start creating better chances for him to get on the end of and we haven't done that enough in the first two games.
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Post by pez75 on Aug 26, 2016 12:20:13 GMT
Fuck me, we are back to the Andy Cooke scenario. Give me a game, I am reasonably fit even at 41 - I can 'put in a shift' Diouf's contribution (other than lots of running) in the last two games has been less than fuck all. I personally think he is toss, but even with my neutral glasses on it is obvious that our game does not suit him. At least if Crouch plays the ball will stick up top and make it to another red & white shirt. I'm not saying keep him just because he runs around a lot, I've also said it's not like he's been missing chances (other than 1 vs City). We need to start creating better chances for him to get on the end of and we haven't done that enough in the first two games. The truth is we dont do that though. Diouf needs the ball placed in front of him, he is utterly useless with his back to goal. We need a striker who is as confortable being involved in the build up play as he is finishing.
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Post by ruarig on Aug 26, 2016 12:24:53 GMT
I'm not saying keep him just because he runs around a lot, I've also said it's not like he's been missing chances (other than 1 vs City). We need to start creating better chances for him to get on the end of and we haven't done that enough in the first two games. The truth is we dont do that though. Diouf needs the ball placed in front of him, he is utterly useless with his back to goal. We need a striker who is as confortable being involved in the build up play as he is finishing. You mean like Bojan?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 18:24:59 GMT
I think we should stick with Diouf personally because it's not like he's been missing chances deserves to be dropped, he just hasn't had any in the two games we've played so far. Can't fault his effort either he puts in a great shift. He missed a sitter vs Man City. Not even on target. Spot on mate, and that's what starting to really concern me about Diouf as our lonesome striker. I've always been a big fan of Diouf because of his strength, pace and effort, but I am now beginning to doubt whether he's ever going to make the grade going forward. He just misses far too many chances which he should be putting away with ease. He's had his chances and he's not proven his worth of late. Unless of course when he's played against the more inferior opposition during our pre-season warm up games. It's a real shame, cos like I said, I do like his all round attitude to the game, he just can't score goals often enough to warrant his role at S C F C.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 18:49:43 GMT
He missed a sitter vs Man City. Not even on target. Spot on mate, and that's what starting to really concern me about Diouf as our lonesome striker. I've always been a big fan of Diouf because of his strength, pace and effort, but I am now beginning to doubt whether he's ever going to make the grade going forward. He just misses far too many chances which he should be putting away with ease. He's had his chances and he's not proven his worth of late. Unless of course when he's played against the more inferior opposition during our pre-season warm up games. It's a real shame, cos like I said, I do like his all round attitude to the game, he just can't score goals often enough to warrant his role at S C F C. Of late? He's had one chance in two games. Yes, he missed it. But he's had one chance. IN TWO GAMES. There's a problem. Give him ones to miss let alone score!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 19:11:13 GMT
Spot on mate, and that's what starting to really concern me about Diouf as our lonesome striker. I've always been a big fan of Diouf because of his strength, pace and effort, but I am now beginning to doubt whether he's ever going to make the grade going forward. He just misses far too many chances which he should be putting away with ease. He's had his chances and he's not proven his worth of late. Unless of course when he's played against the more inferior opposition during our pre-season warm up games. It's a real shame, cos like I said, I do like his all round attitude to the game, he just can't score goals often enough to warrant his role at S C F C. Of late? He's had one chance in two games. Yes, he missed it. But he's had one chance. IN TWO GAMES. There's a problem. Give him ones to miss let alone score! I agree to some extent jase. You're right about the lack of service and goal scoring chances coming his way for the two opening games. Almost non existent as quite rightly stated. That's not the problem with him for me. The problem is, he seems to have lost his confidence in front of goal and for the few open chances we seem to create that's a big problem given the fact that other players around him are not able to score either. I hasten to add, his scoring ratio to open chances wasn't too clever last season either.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 26, 2016 19:17:12 GMT
I don't know what to say about Crouchy any longer, as every time he is given the chance to prove himself he really does! To be honest I'm stunned by this lanky striker who again and again shows his quality! I have been beating the drum to sell Crouchy for the last two seasons, but still I'm not sure it would be right!!! Maybe this strange, special individual still deserves to be our main striker! I really don't know what to say about PC any longer as he just doesn't stop baffeling me! Nobody can say he isn't a special player, that's for sure! ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/q4Mqf5MqRwT9PY8UitYa.gif)
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 26, 2016 20:05:26 GMT
No brainer.
Crouchy starts.
Switch things around to get crosses in and players up to feed off his hold up play.
An in form P Crouch is a spindly, spidery, lanky thing of awe and beauty.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 26, 2016 20:09:58 GMT
I think we should stick with Diouf personally because it's not like he's been missing chances deserves to be dropped, he just hasn't had any in the two games we've played so far. Can't fault his effort either he puts in a great shift. Fuck me, we are back to the Andy Cooke scenario. Give me a game, I am reasonably fit even at 41 - I can 'put in a shift' Diouf's contribution (other than lots of running) in the last two games has been less than fuck all. I personally think he is toss, but even with my neutral glasses on it is obvious that our game does not suit him. At least if Crouch plays the ball will stick up top and make it to another red & white shirt. Not much Diouf can do if his team mates ignore him and don't give him the ball.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 26, 2016 20:19:58 GMT
How many premier league goals does crouch have at the moment?
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Post by salopstick on Aug 26, 2016 21:58:19 GMT
If we keep crouch and also if we give him another year then fucking play him.
Crouch on at the 75 minute mark last week would have been better than giving Sobhi a debut with 5 minutes left at 1-3
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 22:12:13 GMT
No brainer. Crouchy starts. Switch things around to get crosses in and players up to feed off his hold up play. An in form P Crouch is a spindly, spidery, lanky thing of awe and beauty. Load the box play for the knock downs sound familiar
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 26, 2016 23:26:20 GMT
I don't think we should start crouchie, but a nice side effect if we do is he does give us something more when defending corners.
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Post by marwood on Aug 26, 2016 23:34:33 GMT
How many premier league goals does crouch have at the moment? 96 He will be hungrier than anyone to tuck 4 more away in the next few months
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2016 23:40:29 GMT
I would normally be against starting Crouch but the way things have panned out, rule changes etc, it's probably our best strategy right now
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Post by Davef on Aug 26, 2016 23:43:51 GMT
I would normally be against starting Crouch but the way things have panned out, rule changes etc, it's probably our best strategy right now If Crouchy plays tomorrow and we get a penalty for someone grappling him in the box, I'll donate £100 to a charity of your choice.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2016 23:45:36 GMT
I would normally be against starting Crouch but the way things have panned out, rule changes etc, it's probably our best strategy right now If Crouchy plays tomorrow and we get a penalty for someone grappling him in the box, I'll donate £100 to a charity of your choice. Win win
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2016 23:54:51 GMT
I would normally be against starting Crouch but the way things have panned out, rule changes etc, it's probably our best strategy right now If Crouchy plays tomorrow and we get a penalty for someone grappling him in the box, I'll donate £100 to a charity of your choice. It's not just that though Dave, His presence on defending set pieces Right now he seems to know where the back of the net is, which others are currently struggling. Has mentioned a few comments ago he's probably the most eager to score being just shy of 100 with time running out. The grappling is a bonus
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 27, 2016 4:56:27 GMT
How many premier league goals does crouch have at the moment? 96 He will be hungrier than anyone to tuck 4 more away in the nexr few months Thanx mate,hope he gets them with us!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 6:12:06 GMT
Sorry but crouch up front just won't work Looks like walters will play on the right so putting Crouch up front will mean we get pushed right back. We need pace all over the pitch in away games. He's a player to bring off the bench. Go with diouf up top
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Aug 27, 2016 6:48:14 GMT
He must start. The art of defending aerial balls has really vanished as of late, and not just SCFC but the whole premier League. He will score if he plays, providing we put in good crosses/free kicks. With the added bonus of his defensive contributions.
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Post by stoneroadstokie on Aug 27, 2016 6:58:52 GMT
Back to the future 3, I love big Pete but is this the way Hughes is taking us ![(slaphead)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/x7GhxArXJzjvmIlugu2X.gif) we are fast becoming a laughing stock. Nearly a decade in the Premier League... three consecutive top ten positions... barely mentioned when the relegation places are predicted. We are nowhere near "fast becoming a laughing stock", even if we do give Crouch another twelve months. In fact, I'd say the only way we'd fast become a laughing stock is if neutrals ventured onto this message board in their thousands and read some of the utter arse gravy that's posted. With Crouchie's unique physiology, I don't think that his age will affect him as much as other mature forwards in the league. Its not like speed has always been a big part of his game. His game has always been about his intelligence, using his obvious attribute to his advantage mixed with a good blend of tricky footwork and skill.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 27, 2016 7:14:40 GMT
No brainer. Crouchy starts. Switch things around to get crosses in and players up to feed off his hold up play. An in form P Crouch is a spindly, spidery, lanky thing of awe and beauty. Load the box play for the knock downs sound familiar Variety is the spice of life and all that. A lesson for both MH and TP to learn!
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