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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 13:19:30 GMT
He's our best centre half by a mile right now
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Post by metalhead on Aug 25, 2016 14:42:36 GMT
What a joke of a thread.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 25, 2016 21:31:22 GMT
Why is it, we have interest from a top German club in Wolfy, we could make a healthy profit what is not to like
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 26, 2016 8:37:04 GMT
Doesn't suit us, his chronic lack of pace is a weakness with a high line & attacking fullbacks.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Aug 26, 2016 8:48:49 GMT
Hes a good player who will get better plus he has passion he wants to do well
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2016 8:52:29 GMT
Why is it, we have interest from a top German club in Wolfy, we could make a healthy profit what is not to like We moan about a lack of player loyalty? Think we should look straight in the mirror.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 26, 2016 9:02:53 GMT
Great player, just the boo boys next scapegoat.
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Post by pez75 on Aug 26, 2016 9:17:32 GMT
Doesn't suit us, his chronic lack of pace is a weakness with a high line & attacking fullbacks. Really? When was the last time he got skinned? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain. I dont suppose you are one of those who thought we should never have sold Robert "Usain Bolt" Huth then?
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 26, 2016 10:45:13 GMT
Doesn't suit us, his chronic lack of pace is a weakness with a high line & attacking fullbacks. Really? When was the last time he got skinned? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain. I dont suppose you are one of those who thought we should never have sold Robert "Usain Bolt" Huth then? dress it up how you like, he's not good enough ( to put it kindly) an offer, any offer and he should be on his way to free up a space. I dont care if we make a loss. If wee have attacking fullbacks its common sense a cb will need to cover and cover ground so you tell me the use of a slow centre half? Huth wasnt quick but he was quicker than wollscheid
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 10:48:44 GMT
Doesn't suit us, his chronic lack of pace is a weakness with a high line & attacking fullbacks. Really? When was the last time he got skinned? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain. I dont suppose you are one of those who thought we should never have sold Robert "Usain Bolt" Huth then? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Aug 26, 2016 10:51:39 GMT
Really? When was the last time he got skinned? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain. I dont suppose you are one of those who thought we should never have sold Robert "Usain Bolt" Huth then? dress it up how you like, he's not good enough ( to put it kindly) an offer, any offer and he should be on his way to free up a space. I dont care if we make a loss. If wee have attacking fullbacks its commin sense a cb will need to cover and cover ground so you tell me the use of a slow centre half? Huth wasnt quick but he was quicker than wollscheid, besides he was also a lot better defender Always at the negative extreme of every argument,fortunately the management are more pragmatic which is why we are so successful
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 26, 2016 10:51:49 GMT
Huth was/is by far a better defender in the true sense of the word. Seen as we cant defend for toffee we could do with a couple
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 26, 2016 10:53:26 GMT
dress it up how you like, he's not good enough ( to put it kindly) an offer, any offer and he should be on his way to free up a space. I dont care if we make a loss. If wee have attacking fullbacks its commin sense a cb will need to cover and cover ground so you tell me the use of a slow centre half? Huth wasnt quick but he was quicker than wollscheid, besides he was also a lot better defender Always at the negative extreme of every argument,fortunately the management are more pragmatic which is why we are so successful if he was good id say hes good but hes not so why put the rose tint specs on?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 26, 2016 11:24:03 GMT
Really? When was the last time he got skinned? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain. I dont suppose you are one of those who thought we should never have sold Robert "Usain Bolt" Huth then? dress it up how you like, he's not good enough ( to put it kindly) an offer, any offer and he should be on his way to free up a space. I dont care if we make a loss. If wee have attacking fullbacks its common sense a cb will need to cover and cover ground so you tell me the use of a slow centre half? Huth wasnt quick but he was quicker than wollscheid We've got space. Wilson freed up space. Fact is we either don't want to or can't fill it. Would be madness to let him go without anyone already in to replace him. Calling yourself Ryan4England you've nailed your colours to the mast but your man is both out of form and unfit at the moment. So if we let Wollscheid go and let the window close with Cameron and Muniesa as first choice CB's then I'm damn sure it's a decision we'd very quickly come to regret.
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Post by ruarig on Aug 26, 2016 11:30:38 GMT
Huth was/is by far a better defender in the true sense of the word. Seen as we cant defend for toffee we could do with a couple Based on current form we should let both him and Shawcross go as Shawcross is no better at the moment but I'd prefer to think we will bring in genuine competition and keep both so they are all kept on there toes by each other and genuine competition for places. At times in the past Shawcross alongside both Wolly and Muni has bought out the best in them however right now we don't have a decent centre half.
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 26, 2016 11:44:51 GMT
I'd let him go because I believe we can and would have 2 better centre backs in by close of play wednesday. Things will start to move this weekend, players will become available. Get the extra space in the squad and make it happen for me.
Don't kid yourself scfc will have a list as long as their arm of centre backs. Agents from everywhere will have been sending profiles, dvds the lot trying to get their player a move to the premiership
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2016 12:50:11 GMT
Huth was/is by far a better defender in the true sense of the word. Seen as we cant defend for toffee we could do with a couple Huth is probably a better defender, but he's certainly not the more complete footballer and I think that's why he didn't fit into our team going forward. Being a footballer isn't just about being able to do a single primary task well. I'm not saying Wolly is better than Huth, but I'm saying Hughes saw Wolly as the more complete footballer, with more potential going forward.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 26, 2016 13:02:47 GMT
Where would the logic be in selling Wolly now...unless we have 2 CB in the pipeline?
Doesn't work out
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 26, 2016 13:28:55 GMT
Huth was/is by far a better defender in the true sense of the word. Seen as we cant defend for toffee we could do with a couple Huth is probably a better defender, but he's certainly not the more complete footballer and I think that's why he didn't fit into our team going forward. Being a footballer isn't just about being able to do a single primary task well. I'm not saying Wolly is better than Huth, but I'm saying Hughes saw Wolly as the more complete footballer, with more potential going forward. for me defenders should be 'defenders' and good at it, especially CB's when used with attacking fullbacks
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 26, 2016 13:33:21 GMT
Huth is probably a better defender, but he's certainly not the more complete footballer and I think that's why he didn't fit into our team going forward. Being a footballer isn't just about being able to do a single primary task well. I'm not saying Wolly is better than Huth, but I'm saying Hughes saw Wolly as the more complete footballer, with more potential going forward. for me defenders should be 'defenders' and good at it, especially CB's when used with attacking fullbacks fairly sure that the club don't pick players based on what you think players should be though do they? you may think Huth is the better defender but he's not here anymore and even if you don't like Wolly why carry on this agenda when he's actually the CB at our club who's in better form right now?
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Post by foster on Aug 26, 2016 13:33:47 GMT
Where would the logic be in selling Wolly now...unless we have 2 CB in the pipeline? Doesn't work out My only concern is that if we're bringing two in then it's going to take a while for them to settle. Especially if Ryan ends up out again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 13:34:59 GMT
Great player, just the boo boys next scapegoat. ...the next one? Imbula isn't it?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 26, 2016 13:36:10 GMT
Great player, just the boo boys next scapegoat. ...the next one? Imbula isn't it? then probably Arnie...actually no, not Arnie the person, just his body language
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Post by foster on Aug 26, 2016 13:38:35 GMT
...the next one? Imbula isn't it? then probably Arnie...actually no, not Arnie the person, just his body language Not keen on his new haircut either.... Actually I tell a lie. I think it's cool as fuck. After Imbula it will be Diouf followed by Shaq.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 26, 2016 13:43:19 GMT
Fair to say Mr Eric Pieters is close to being the new boo boy.
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Post by pez75 on Aug 26, 2016 13:45:26 GMT
Really? When was the last time he got skinned? Not all centre halves necessarily need pace if they have a brain. I dont suppose you are one of those who thought we should never have sold Robert "Usain Bolt" Huth then? dress it up how you like, he's not good enough ( to put it kindly) an offer, any offer and he should be on his way to free up a space. I dont care if we make a loss. If wee have attacking fullbacks its common sense a cb will need to cover and cover ground so you tell me the use of a slow centre half? Huth wasnt quick but he was quicker than wollscheid Ha was he fuck. Huth is like a cruise liner, he needs a tugboat to get him going. You cannot slate Wolly for his lack of pace and then bemoan us getting rid off Huth FFS. To be fair your username suggests your knowledge of CH's is not to be trusted.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 26, 2016 14:12:54 GMT
Without wishing to get into a debate about who is better, I need to interject on the speed issue. Huth was not slow. Nor is Ryan.
Both are big units and may not be quick on the turn, but in a straight foot race, huth nor Ryan were/are found wanting too often.
Wooly isn't a bad player and he's unfairly criticised at times. If we had an offer for him, certainly if it was for more than we'd paid for him, I'm pretty sure he'd be sold.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 26, 2016 14:16:11 GMT
for me defenders should be 'defenders' and good at it, especially CB's when used with attacking fullbacks fairly sure that the club don't pick players based on what you think players should be though do they? you may think Huth is the better defender but he's not here anymore and even if you don't like Wolly why carry on this agenda when he's actually the CB at our club who's in better form right now? And that's the point isn't it. The "Agenda". Drives the sort of logic that makes people come out with crap like "anyone would be better than [insert name as appropriate]" or "I could do a better job myself" etc etc. If we can get a couple of new and better CB's in that move Wollscheid down the pecking order and he's not happy to sit on the bench then fine - if we then get a decent offer - get rid. That's how you manage a pool of talent. However on current form and based on who is actually registered to play for the club he is the only show in town. To get rid for the sort of money we're likely to be offered would be an act of self harm.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 26, 2016 14:16:22 GMT
Ryan and Robert fall into the category of quick "when they get going" but struggle over the first 5 yards against nippy players.
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2016 15:08:28 GMT
Huth is probably a better defender, but he's certainly not the more complete footballer and I think that's why he didn't fit into our team going forward. Being a footballer isn't just about being able to do a single primary task well. I'm not saying Wolly is better than Huth, but I'm saying Hughes saw Wolly as the more complete footballer, with more potential going forward. for me defenders should be 'defenders' and good at it, especially CB's when used with attacking fullbacks Wollscheid is a good defender, but he's going through a poor patch of form. He's had some excellent games in the past and we know when he brings his A game he's solid.
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