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Post by ShaqsRightFoot on Aug 14, 2016 11:02:38 GMT
Great game yesterday I thought personally. A boro fan also agreed according to Twitter Attachment Deleted
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Post by elystokie on Aug 14, 2016 11:05:14 GMT
No chance.
He runs too funny.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 14, 2016 11:08:09 GMT
For me - the centre backs are not an issue. Right now and the end of last season it was and is our fullbacks. Pieters needs competition and Johnson is good but injury prone. Therefore our centre halves are also covering/worrying about the flanks too much
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2016 11:10:44 GMT
Like everyone else he was horrific in the first half.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:11:39 GMT
Great game yesterday I thought personally. A boro fan also agreed according to Twitter View AttachmentThe fella comes under way too much scrutiny on here and the criticism he's received by a good few posters is ridiculous imho.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 14, 2016 11:13:08 GMT
Like everyone else he was horrific in the first half. I thought wooly was easily the more reliable of the 4 and he was far better than Ryan over the 90 minutes. Him and imbula were the only two to play anything near what we know we are capable of in my opinion.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 14, 2016 11:13:49 GMT
I remember him making a crucial tackle/block in the second half to prevent a Boro tap in and tbh he was more solid than Ryan, Which is a tad worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:14:34 GMT
Played well, as he very often does.
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Post by lordb on Aug 14, 2016 11:16:09 GMT
Our best defender yesterday Ryan (and Eric) at fault for the goal. He let Ramirez run past him for the shot that hit the post too. Wollsheid didn't have any issues did he?
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Post by wingy11 on Aug 14, 2016 11:18:13 GMT
Think both shawcross and Wollscheid are good defenders but when played together look a shambles
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:20:39 GMT
Poor in the first half but so was everybody, particularly Ryan.
Wollo was very good in the second half.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 14, 2016 11:27:55 GMT
Think both shawcross and Wollscheid are good defenders but when played together look a shambles Wouldn't go that far but they certainly could be better given how good they are individually. I think it's a leadership issue, Wollscheid is evidently a strong character and has had to take charge of the back 4 whilst Ryan had his injury problems and he had various partners in defence, now Ryans' back, as Captain, therefore taking charge. Maybe the adjustment back to the previous status quo is proving somewhat difficult? Hopefully it'll sort itself out.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 14, 2016 11:31:08 GMT
How many times have they played together? We need consistent selection at CH to build up a solid reliable partnership.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2016 11:36:01 GMT
Like everyone else he was horrific in the first half. I thought wooly was easily the more reliable of the 4 and he was far better than Ryan over the 90 minutes. Him and imbula were the only two to play anything near what we know we are capable of in my opinion. The Captain had a stinker. Wollscheid was marginally better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:37:40 GMT
The great run of clean sheets we had last season came through their partnership, did it not?
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Post by Davef on Aug 14, 2016 11:40:05 GMT
How many times have they played together? We need consistent selection at CH to build up a solid reliable partnership. And how many times have they played together in front of Butland?
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Post by pigshead on Aug 14, 2016 11:40:10 GMT
The new Franz Beckenbauer don't you know!😀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:40:14 GMT
I thought wooly was easily the more reliable of the 4 and he was far better than Ryan over the 90 minutes. Him and imbula were the only two to play anything near what we know we are capable of in my opinion. The Captain had a stinker. Wollscheid was marginally better. +1 - for me the real question marks lie with Ryan. He was terrible, he turns like a boat, lost his first 3/4 headers. Was skinned effortlessly for their effort that hit the post, he looked like he was running in treacle. Gives away those daft free kicks all the time pushing people. When he was jumping for headers it was like he was trying to punch the ball away, his hands were closer to the ball than his head, but of course..Wollo runs funny and wears gloves sometimes. We need a new solid Centre back that much is for sure. Both of them were ponderous in possession yesterday, but Hughes is intent on passing it around on the edge of our own box, sadly neither of them are good enough to do that, although they were improved in the second half, Wollo was assured in possession.
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Post by StokeAz on Aug 14, 2016 11:44:57 GMT
He's a good centre back and hasn't done a whole lot wrong when I've seen him play, but fsr I still don't feel comfortable with him as our main CB alongside Ryan, nor do I feel that way with the other CB's we have atm... I just think that with pieters alongside him, who isn't the fastest LB in the world, it means that we have a very slow left side of defence which can be left vulnerable to pace.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 14, 2016 11:49:20 GMT
Considering we were horrific and awful I'm not sure how we drew.Its not like they were dominant and raining shots at us was it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:55:24 GMT
Second best left back on the pitch yesterday.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2016 11:57:48 GMT
He was the best of a bad bunch but him and Shawcross still don't look like any sort of a good partnership.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 14, 2016 12:05:43 GMT
Think both shawcross and Wollscheid are good defenders but when played together look a shambles I'm still having nightmares on wollys performance against spurs at home past season. Where as our full back performances yesterday were up there with the worst in a long long time, Wolly that night made my blood boil. It's a new season so we'll see. I just wish our captain would lead more. Be vocal, scream and shout. Ryan only seems to be vocal when talking to the ref.
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Aug 14, 2016 13:18:26 GMT
He's in my Fantasy team as for some reasons I've always liked him. I wanted to choose Shawcross but not sure how he is with injuries/fitness at the moment? Hope you guys have a good season by the way
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 14, 2016 13:22:23 GMT
Look how much money he cost you can't ask a mini to race in formula one
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 13:43:28 GMT
He's in my Fantasy team as for some reasons I've always liked him. I wanted to choose Shawcross but not sure how he is with injuries/fitness at the moment? Hope you guys have a good season by the way How'd you feel about the Hull result and the upcoming season? What're you expecting from LCFC this season mate?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 14, 2016 13:47:00 GMT
Look how much money he cost you can't ask a mini to race in formula one For a £3m CB who got the better deal us or LCFC ?
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 14, 2016 13:53:00 GMT
I thought he did okay, I just worry that the back 4 do not look like a cohesive unit in any way. Hopefully Ryan just needs a few games. However, fullbacks getting skinned, massive gaps in the channels, farcical goal, almost amateurish at times. I had no confidence In them at all, which is worrying considering our dominance and the opposition. How Bardsley is in the premier league I'll never know. We needed a CB and cover for Johnson in the summer, almost negligent not to do this.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 14, 2016 13:55:47 GMT
He frustrates me. When he has a good game he looks composed and classy. But when he has a bad game he's absolutely terrible and a complete liability. He's definitely better when alongside a fit Shawcross as evidenced by that good defensive spell we had in November and December last year. He's lost without him though in my opinion.
Overall he's ok but we can do better and in my opinion we should be looking to do better.
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 14, 2016 13:58:45 GMT
He frustrates me. When he has a good game he looks composed and classy. But when he has a bad game he's absolutely terrible and a complete liability. He's definitely better when alongside a fit Shawcross as evidenced by that good defensive spell we had in November and December last year. He's lost without him though in my opinion. Overall he's ok but we can do better and in my opinion we should be looking to do better. I think is spot on. I said to my mate yesterday, he's either great or a massive liability. He's a rolls Royce some games and a skoda the next. We defiantly need competition for him and Ryan.
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