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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 24, 2016 8:44:56 GMT
Still think his preferred destination is Swansea. Let's hope they stay well out. Maybe not, wouldn't u think they would have placed a bid by now, knowing we are in advanced talks with the player himself, surely if they want him, and supposedly know he would prefer to go back to Swansea they would have placed a bid by now?? Playing devils advocate maybe they have spoke to him already and he's said he wants to come to Stoke?? I don't know how intelligent or thick he is but might he not just think going back to Swansea would be seen as an admission of failure at Liverpool. Wheras coming to us he could pass off as another step up the ladder  |
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Post by mrpickles on Jul 24, 2016 8:54:01 GMT
I did read the other day that Allen was reluctant to go back to Swansea if Brendan Rodgers became manager, as he didn't want the 'bosses favourite' tag hanging over his head his whole career. I know that's a moot point now, but maybe the same could be said about the chairman's desire to bring him back.
The point is, we really don't know how Joe Allen is prioritising things in his own mind. Maybe he wants to leave Swansea as a part of his past, that he can always look back on fondly?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 24, 2016 9:10:21 GMT
Maybe not, wouldn't u think they would have placed a bid by now, knowing we are in advanced talks with the player himself, surely if they want him, and supposedly know he would prefer to go back to Swansea they would have placed a bid by now?? Playing devils advocate maybe they have spoke to him already and he's said he wants to come to Stoke?? I don't know how intelligent or thick he is but might he not just think going back to Swansea would be seen as an admission of failure at Liverpool. Wheras coming to us he could pass off as another step up the ladder That's a good point. Some people like going back and some don't. But even those who are happy to go back often see it as a move they would like to make at the end of their careers not when they are at or near their prime. If we do get him then I think Hughes will be a huge factor in clinching the deal - plus the fact that he will be going to a stable club in Stoke whereas Swansea are in a period of change. You can't simply assume that a takeover will necessarily work out well for club, manager or players - some do but an equal number don't. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 24, 2016 9:33:07 GMT
I think this deals already done. I reckon it's been ongoing since the Euros.
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Post by stokiejon03 on Jul 24, 2016 9:45:26 GMT
Hopefully Joe Allen sees us for what we are. A well established well run premier league club who are looking to move forward. We are a very good prospect to a lot of players. Swansea at the moment look to be going backwards and with new owners and manager some uncertainty. He won't be going back to Swansea the way he left it. To me it's a no brainier (although biased) Sign for stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 9:48:02 GMT
Maybe Liverpool don't want to sell to Swansea and won't accept their offer? Maybe Swansea are saying they will write-off what Liverpool still owe them and they will take him back?
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 24, 2016 9:49:35 GMT
Some reports suggesting he's having his medical...
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Post by liamo on Jul 24, 2016 9:52:17 GMT
Their one and only set of comments on the subject didn't exactly shout "back off Stoke we're having him" did they?
Said they were obviously interested but they've got a full midfield and £13m is a bit of a high valuation
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Post by Pedropotter on Jul 24, 2016 9:54:16 GMT
Some reports suggesting he's having his medical... Which reports?....... |
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jul 24, 2016 9:57:05 GMT
I don't really understand the "he'll choose Swansea" argument.
He's already played there. He's moved on. He's at a good age and it's pretty obvious to everyone that out of the 2 clubs, which club is n more ambitious, bigger, stable, and the squad to challenge.
Signing for Swansea would be a huge step back in his career. Obviously signing for Stoke from Liverpool is a step down, but taking 2 steps back by signing for Swansea would be silly.
Its a move you'd consider in the latter stages of your career to go back to your home club.
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 24, 2016 9:58:53 GMT
Some reports suggesting he's having his medical... Which reports?....... Accounts on Twitter and on the transfer markt website it looks as though they've taken away his team and he's now labelled as a free agent until Stoke sign him. Some websites in Italy stating that 3 clubs missed out on him as he's having his medical with Stoke. I'll try to find the URL. |
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 24, 2016 10:01:14 GMT
Believe it or not, Roma and Napoli had major interest in Allen...
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 24, 2016 10:14:55 GMT
Accounts on Twitter and on the transfer markt website it looks as though they've taken away his team and he's now labelled as a free agent until Stoke sign him. Some websites in Italy stating that 3 clubs missed out on him as he's having his medical with Stoke. I'll try to find the URL. Ah Twitter. The Fount of all that's true and good in the world. Welcome Joe, it's on Twitter, you must now be a Stokie. |
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 24, 2016 10:24:52 GMT
Accounts on Twitter and on the transfer markt website it looks as though they've taken away his team and he's now labelled as a free agent until Stoke sign him. Some websites in Italy stating that 3 clubs missed out on him as he's having his medical with Stoke. I'll try to find the URL. Ah Twitter. The Fount of all that's true and good in the world. Welcome Joe, it's on Twitter, you must now be a Stokie. You'd be surprised. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 24, 2016 10:28:23 GMT
Ah Twitter. The Fount of all that's true and good in the world. Welcome Joe, it's on Twitter, you must now be a Stokie. You'd be surprised. It happens regularly  |
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Post by southstanddan on Jul 24, 2016 10:31:56 GMT
After meeting with MH I think he will be joining us
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Post by badger on Jul 24, 2016 11:34:57 GMT
Bojan has just tweeted they're ready for take off, with him and Joselu on the plane. So unless Hughes flying out later or tomorrow the meeting must have been done?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 24, 2016 12:00:20 GMT
Some reports suggesting he's having his medical... Who says doctors don't work Sundays? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:01:49 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Jul 24, 2016 12:03:59 GMT
Late night Jos ? Look as rough as Meir in the mid 90s |
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Post by baystokie on Jul 24, 2016 12:05:30 GMT
Their one and only set of comments on the subject didn't exactly shout "back off Stoke we're having him" did they? Said they were obviously interested but they've got a full midfield and £13m is a bit of a high valuation Read somewhere this morning that the new owners wanted to first sell Ki. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:17:03 GMT
VS73 PE Upstairs (bubble) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:18:09 GMT
Important we do this signing
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 12:22:23 GMT
VS73 PE Upstairs (bubble) I thought bojan was getting a selfie with Peter Barlow off Corrie for a minute! |
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Post by homer32 on Jul 24, 2016 12:43:33 GMT
I don't know how intelligent or thick he is but might he not just think going back to Swansea would be seen as an admission of failure at Liverpool. Wheras coming to us he could pass off as another step up the ladder That's a good point. Some people like going back and some don't. But even those who are happy to go back often see it as a move they would like to make at the end of their careers not when they are at or near their prime. If we do get him then I think Hughes will be a huge factor in clinching the deal - plus the fact that he will be going to a stable club in Stoke whereas Swansea are in a period of change. You can't simply assume that a takeover will necessarily work out well for club, manager or players - some do but an equal number don't. Lakeland you are far too sensible and talk too much common sense for this site !!.That is spot on in my opinion and it looks as though he will sign for us and that will be an excellent addition to our squad.Not so keen on Berahino and I really hope that falls though. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 24, 2016 13:17:08 GMT
That's a good point. Some people like going back and some don't. But even those who are happy to go back often see it as a move they would like to make at the end of their careers not when they are at or near their prime. If we do get him then I think Hughes will be a huge factor in clinching the deal - plus the fact that he will be going to a stable club in Stoke whereas Swansea are in a period of change. You can't simply assume that a takeover will necessarily work out well for club, manager or players - some do but an equal number don't. Lakeland you are far too sensible and talk too much common sense for this site !!.That is spot on in my opinion and it looks as though he will sign for us and that will be an excellent addition to our squad.Not so keen on Berahino and I really hope that falls though. We'll have to disagree on Berahino. I don't judge him on last season, when his head was obviously not right after he felt he was denied a dream move to Spurs. I thought that the season before last he was excellent. He still clearly has some "issues" but no more than Arnie did when we signed him - I'm sure there is scope for Hughes to make him feel wanted. That is probably what he needs given that he is a refugee from war torn Burundi. Why I want Berahino (or a player like him) is that he would be unlike any other striker at Stoke. I think to reach the top 6 in the Prem you need an instinctive finisher with strength, a good first touch and reasonable pace - we have no one who has all those attributes and have not had for some years. If we got one and if Hughes could get him motivated that would be worth 3 or 4 places in the table. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 24, 2016 13:23:44 GMT
Bojan has just tweeted they're ready for take off, with him and Joselu on the plane. So unless Hughes flying out later or tomorrow the meeting must have been done? I'm sure Hughes will fly out tomorrow if needs be. He's hardly likely to allow a transfer to fall down because he failed to meet with a player. No reason why the rest of the coaching staff can't prepare the players for the game on Wednesday evening. Hopefully, Allen (and maybe Ramandan?) will be flying out to the USA by midweek if not with Hughes tomorrow |
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 24, 2016 13:27:59 GMT
Joey and Leslie will probably meet up with the squad on either Monday or Tuesday.
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Post by tweet on Jul 24, 2016 13:33:51 GMT
A friends lad has just had pictures taken with nearly all the first team players at Manchester airport but no pictures of Hughes
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Post by gonk on Jul 24, 2016 13:39:28 GMT
Their one and only set of comments on the subject didn't exactly shout "back off Stoke we're having him" did they? Said they were obviously interested but they've got a full midfield and £13m is a bit of a high valuation Read somewhere this morning that the new owners wanted to first sell Ki. They did mate.So in away they fucked up.My self i would have prefered Ki. |
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