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Post by greyman on May 31, 2016 21:15:55 GMT
The choice of political party is the main crime! Let's not forget that England has never failed to be majority Conservative. Labour governments are provided by Welsh and Scottish votes. The right-on members of this board might reflect that they are, and have always been, an English minority and do not speak for the majority. Not that that's going to stop them pretending otherwise..... You sure about that? I can prove you wrong right now if you like but I'd like to see your evidence first.
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Post by basingstokie on Jun 1, 2016 14:41:10 GMT
Let's not forget that England has never failed to be majority Conservative. Labour governments are provided by Welsh and Scottish votes. The right-on members of this board might reflect that they are, and have always been, an English minority and do not speak for the majority. Not that that's going to stop them pretending otherwise..... You sure about that? I can prove you wrong right now if you like but I'd like to see your evidence first. Sounds correct. It does mean if Labour hope to regain power they either need to move to the left (to regain some SNP votes), but this strategy only works if Scotland remains part of UK. Or to the right to gain some of the slightly more left wing tory voters. With Corbyn in charge the first option looks more likely currently..
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Post by richardparker on Jun 1, 2016 14:53:28 GMT
The choice of political party is the main crime! Let's not forget that England has never failed to be majority Conservative. Labour governments are provided by Welsh and Scottish votes. The right-on members of this board might reflect that they are, and have always been, an English minority and do not speak for the majority. Not that that's going to stop them pretending otherwise..... Gooooaaaarrrrn Little Englander! Thank goodness for democracy hey? Simples, if we only ever listen to the majority's views, we'll always know what's right.
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Post by greyman on Jun 1, 2016 16:13:13 GMT
Let's not forget that England has never failed to be majority Conservative. Labour governments are provided by Welsh and Scottish votes. The right-on members of this board might reflect that they are, and have always been, an English minority and do not speak for the majority. Not that that's going to stop them pretending otherwise..... Gooooaaaarrrrn Little Englander! Thank goodness for democracy hey? Simples, if we only ever listen to the majority's views, we'll always know what's right. I'm still waiting for him to prove that the majority of English voters always vote Tory. He may be a while seeing as it's not true. How long should I give him?
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Post by richardparker on Jun 1, 2016 17:29:00 GMT
Gooooaaaarrrrn Little Englander! Thank goodness for democracy hey? Simples, if we only ever listen to the majority's views, we'll always know what's right. I'm still waiting for him to prove that the majority of English voters always vote Tory. He may be a while seeing as it's not true. How long should I give him? Probs waiting a lot longer now this thread has been moved to the 'nothing to do with football' section. Didn't the South African's during Apartheid argue that you should never mix sport and politics?
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Post by greyman on Jun 1, 2016 19:02:30 GMT
I'm still waiting for him to prove that the majority of English voters always vote Tory. He may be a while seeing as it's not true. How long should I give him? Probs waiting a lot longer now this thread has been moved to the 'nothing to do with football' section. Didn't the South African's during Apartheid argue that you should never mix sport and politics? Personally, I don't think life and politics should mix. He'll find it if he wants to because I quoted him I know what he'll say and it won't have anything to do with proving that 27 percent of the electorate is a majority.
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