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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2016 18:00:36 GMT
Has never had a real run of games to fully judge him and it's notoriously hard to judge people on their first season.
But....
...assuming we go big on a £20m striker over the summer as the new main man, has he done enough for us to persevere with him next year in "the group".
Or should we be looking to cut our losses?
He doesn't strike me personally as someone who's going to be suited to the Premier League.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 15, 2016 18:01:50 GMT
He looks good off the bench and away from home but be just never takes his chance when given a run of games.
His attitude today was dreadful.
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Post by Biblical on May 15, 2016 18:03:03 GMT
He can do a job as a bit part player but I don't think he's suited to being the main man for a whole season.
We need to bring in a top quality striker.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 15, 2016 18:03:15 GMT
He's playing at level least one league above where he should. He's not a big, bruising battering ram, he's not a dominant target man, he doesn't have any great instincts and he's neither pacy nor tricky. Maybe he's just not suited to this country, but he's a long way from good enough.
Let him go in the summer.
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Post by canadianmoose on May 15, 2016 18:04:17 GMT
Just not enough intensity for me as a lone striker. Technically looks good but powderpuff and doesn't like centre backs giving him a hard time. Needs to shape up in attitude and physicality.
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Post by mrred on May 15, 2016 18:04:24 GMT
I've liked the look of him when he's come off the bench but he was fucking dreadful today.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 15, 2016 18:05:03 GMT
Talented and extremely good technically but often drifts out of games and makes little impact. Saying that, I like him and think he can still be a good option for us next season.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 15, 2016 18:05:28 GMT
He needs to bulk up , oatcakes , wrights pies and John smiths should do it
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 18:05:48 GMT
I'd give him at least another season, he has showed glimpses, his attitude is good and he seems to fit in well.
Presumably Crouch will be off this summer, so we need to bring in someone new, but it still makes sense to keep hold of Joselu and Diouf.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 15, 2016 18:06:16 GMT
Has never had a real run of games to fully judge him and it's notoriously hard to judge people on their first season. But.... ...assuming we go big on a £20m striker over the summer as the new main man, has he done enough for us to persevere with him next year in "the group". Or should we be looking to cut our losses? He doesn't strike me personally as someone who's going to be suited to the Premier League. He flatters to deceive. Shown some great touches but they are few and far between. Seems too much of a nice guy to make it as a target man in the prem and sums up this season for me. Has the ability but seldom shows it. Hopefully our foreign contingent have learned that there are no easy games, unlike in some leagues they have been in, and it's not enough to put the affort in against the so called big clubs. |
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Post by stokief on May 15, 2016 18:07:21 GMT
never had a run and the whole team has been different around him every time he's played due to injuries etc. I'd say you dont get to be at Real Madrid as a youngster for nothing. Has never had a fair chance at adapting. We'll see next season I guess unless he's ready to move eleswhere.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 15, 2016 18:07:24 GMT
He's like a jack of all trades and a master of none, I do like him, he seems like he has a fantastic attitude. Having said that, he's not exactly rapid, is half decent in the air but losing his bearings, seems like a good finisher but fails to find positions, not strong but not exactly weak.
Needed a good run of games.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 15, 2016 18:07:29 GMT
I like Joselu too, but I don't think his skills are extreme enough. He is a good allrounder, but he lacks a bit of pace, isn't a natural poacher either and as a lot of people say too often gets invisible at home. I know this is a very hard statement, but I think we should get rid. We need to bring in someone better!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 18:08:05 GMT
I think he's been brought here to replace Crouch's skill set - given it was widely reported about his aerial stats in the Bundesliga.
The squad needs that type of player but it is missing the explosive goalscorer.
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Post by robstokie on May 15, 2016 18:08:19 GMT
I think he has been a tad unfortunate to not be given a good run of games to build his fitness and experience of the league, but hes no better than what we have already to be honest, and hes struggled in the home games where we have needed that bit of quality to break down sides who come and park the bus.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 15, 2016 18:08:50 GMT
I like Joselu too, but I don't think his skills are extreme enough. He is a good allrounder, but he lacks a bit of pace, isn't a natural poacher either and as a lot of people say too often gets invisible at home. I know this is a very hard statement, but I think we should get rid. We need to bring in someone better! Were you sitting next to me when you made this post?  |
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Post by superheroantonius on May 15, 2016 18:12:20 GMT
Imo... He's not interested in going in where it hurts, to muscle his way onto the end of crosses free kicks and corner kicks
Which is just a long winded way of saying he's not up to the job
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 18:14:00 GMT
Imo... He's not interested in going in where it hurts, to muscle his way onto the end of crosses free kicks and corner kicks Which is just a long winded way of saying he's not up to the job Fair comment. He's shown in the goals he has scored, plenty of skill but not the brute force aspect. Unsure about the lad. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 15, 2016 18:14:50 GMT
He's one of those that looks useful on his day, completely absent when not.
Nobody would shed a tear if he left.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 15, 2016 18:18:03 GMT
I like Joselu too, but I don't think his skills are extreme enough. He is a good allrounder, but he lacks a bit of pace, isn't a natural poacher either and as a lot of people say too often gets invisible at home. I know this is a very hard statement, but I think we should get rid. We need to bring in someone better! Were you sitting next to me when you made this post? Don't think so!  |
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Post by VolvicStokie on May 15, 2016 18:18:21 GMT
My opinion is he's decent but I just can't see him fitting into the system.
You saw today. Carroll playing the exact same roll. Carroll gave us plenty to think about, chased and chased, won headers and flick ons. But where was Joselu? hardly saw him chase one lost cause.
There was a moment in the first half where he made a decenct tackle down our right but overall was pretty poor
Diouf is currently the best man to lead the line. Although sometimes he's literally a confidence player
Gut instinct is we need a new striker!
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Post by mickstupp on May 15, 2016 18:18:59 GMT
Atrocious today. Right up there with one of most inept, half arsed, anonymous centre forward performances I can recall from a stoke striker. Compare what he did to Diouf, who was chasing lost causes, putting himself about and actually attacking the ball for the winning goal.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 15, 2016 18:19:15 GMT
I thought he was really poor today and did next to nothing. There are times this season where he's looked OK but he's not good enough to rely on playing 30+ games. Give him another season though not at Dioufs expense. Diouf for me is far better as he has pace. We definitely need a overhaul up front. For me only Diouf looks anything like a long term option.
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Post by AlanHansen on May 15, 2016 19:03:07 GMT
A waste of a shirt. It's not going to work, get rid.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:10:11 GMT
Has never had a real run of games to fully judge him and it's notoriously hard to judge people on their first season. But.... ...assuming we go big on a £20m striker over the summer as the new main man, has he done enough for us to persevere with him next year in "the group". Or should we be looking to cut our losses? He doesn't strike me personally as someone who's going to be suited to the Premier League. He is too slow. He lacks the true strikers killer instinct. Eg when we had them under the cosh today pieters put a super ball over at the far post just begging for him to nod it in. He just watched it drift past just a foot in front of him. His passing is often shit. He's had plenty of chances to show hinself and he has shown that he is probably an average championship player at best. Hopefully we move him on in the summer |
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Post by Robo10 on May 15, 2016 19:11:54 GMT
Isnt strong enough for England alas, his much vaunted heading ability is lost
Poss works well in a 442, but not in our system
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:14:02 GMT
Technically very good but too much of a fanny IMO. We had too many players in the first half today who were afraid of mixing it. Thought he was awful. Its Crouchie and him to go in The Summer. Six million quid down the drain.
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Post by muglump on May 15, 2016 19:17:22 GMT
He's only going to be any good if he gets a run in the team but to be honest although I like him I think Diouf is a human battering ram when he's on form so he gets in first for me
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 15, 2016 19:18:51 GMT
Most aspects of his game have been aired here and they cover pretty much encompass the guy's abilities. Add my own thoughts and I'm on the keep him for another season side of the argument. Won't play every game but good enough to merit a place in 'the squad'.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:19:28 GMT
Another one for the scrap heap?
Let's just fuck em all off and cease to exist.
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