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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 5, 2016 8:49:53 GMT
Still best mates!Warning - to those with sensitive computers, this is a link to a Sentinel page! 
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 8:52:16 GMT
So glad SJW is back
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Post by rocket888888 on May 5, 2016 9:02:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 12:01:00 GMT
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Post by jezzascfc on May 5, 2016 12:43:22 GMT
There are a few digs in there at how things are at Stoke these days, are there not?
The sale of Huth will go down as the biggest bollock dropped by Hughes in terms of player departures.
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Post by thebet365 on May 5, 2016 13:00:50 GMT
There are a few digs in there at how things are at Stoke these days, are there not? The sale of Huth will go down as the biggest bollock dropped by Hughes in terms of player departures. Only in the eyes of supporters who think football is like football manager games. It's been explained why he was let go but some still think they know better. |
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Post by Davef on May 5, 2016 13:08:50 GMT
There are a few digs in there at how things are at Stoke these days, are there not? If that's what he thinks then he can get f****d. |
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Post by superheroantonius on May 5, 2016 13:12:25 GMT
There are a few digs in there at how things are at Stoke these days, are there not? The sale of Huth will go down as the biggest bollock dropped by Hughes in terms of player departures. Only in the eyes of supporters who think football is like football manager games. It's been explained why he was let go but some still think they know better. The only explanation is Hughes made a mistake In the same way, the only explanation for Liverpool letting Glenn Johnson go on free, is Liverpool made a mistake , and Hughes played a blinder You win some , you lose some |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 13:25:11 GMT
(From one German to another?)  pisser, panzer tank to a pansy tank. |
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Post by jezzascfc on May 5, 2016 13:28:15 GMT
There are a few digs in there at how things are at Stoke these days, are there not? The sale of Huth will go down as the biggest bollock dropped by Hughes in terms of player departures. Only in the eyes of supporters who think football is like football manager games. It's been explained why he was let go but some still think they know better. Eh? He has shown that he was far from his sell by date, has played very well, barely missing a game, in a title winning team and, in contrast, we have missed Shawcross for much of our season, when Huth would have been the perfect replacement. I know a few of those things cannot have been foreseen (Huth had started to look injury prone and we could not have guessed Shawcross would have missed so many games), but, with hindsight (of course, a wonderful thing) his sale was not the best bit of business we have ever done! I am not one to get on Hughes' back for the sake of it, and he has pulled off some great signings (although the jury must still be out on our biggest two), but this is one deal he is probably privately regretting sanctioning. I am not sure why your reply has to be so confrontational, but hey, well done, keyboard warrior. |
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Post by thebet365 on May 5, 2016 13:29:31 GMT
Only in the eyes of supporters who think football is like football manager games. It's been explained why he was let go but some still think they know better. The only explanation is Hughes made a mistake In the same way, the only explanation for Liverpool letting Glenn Johnson go on free, is Liverpool made a mistake , and Hughes played a blinder You win some , you lose some Of course you win some you lose some. And we've been spoiled with the amount we've won with our dogs home players that have come good for us. So why can't people understand there's usually a reason why players excel more at 1 club than others ? It's usually down to tactics/managers style. We play out from the back with the ball and hold a high line without the ball. Huth sits deep and never asks for the ball off the keeper. Now you can argue all you like if Hughes is right or wrong with his tactics/vision of how he wants his team to play. But you can't argue with his decision that Huth and Hughes style just don't match. Leicester have fit Huth like a glove. 2 old fashioned cb's sitting deep and keeping it simple. We might even see a return to it by more clubs now. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 13:36:59 GMT
The only explanation is Hughes made a mistake In the same way, the only explanation for Liverpool letting Glenn Johnson go on free, is Liverpool made a mistake , and Hughes played a blinder You win some , you lose some Of course you win some you lose some. And we've been spoiled with the amount we've won with our dogs home players that have come good for us. So why can't people understand there's usually a reason why players excel more at 1 club than others ? It's usually down to tactics/managers style. We play out from the back with the ball and hold a high line without the ball. Huth sits deep and never asks for the ball off the keeper. Now you can argue all you like if Hughes is right or wrong with his tactics/vision of how he wants his team to play. But you can't argue with his decision that Huth and Hughes style just don't match. Leicester have fit Huth like a glove. 2 old fashioned cb's sitting deep and keeping it simple. We might even see a return to it by more clubs now. And Leicester have just won the Premiere League, hopefully we will hold on to tenth, it may be old fashioned but it works as for our playing the ball out from he back, remind me what is our goal difference. |
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Post by thebet365 on May 5, 2016 13:37:14 GMT
Only in the eyes of supporters who think football is like football manager games. It's been explained why he was let go but some still think they know better. Eh? He has shown that he was far from his sell by date, has played very well, barely missing a game, in a title winning team and, in contrast, we have missed Shawcross for much of our season, when Huth would have been the perfect replacement. I know a few of those things cannot have been foreseen (Huth had started to look injury prone and we could not have guessed Shawcross would have missed so many games), but, with hindsight (of course, a wonderful thing) his sale was not the best bit of business we have ever done! I am not one to get on Hughes' back for the sake of it, and he has pulled off some great signings (although the jury must still be out on our biggest two), but this is one deal he is probably privately regretting sanctioning. I am not sure why your reply has to be so confrontational, but hey, well done, keyboard warrior. Huth has been brilliant yes, because he's playing in a team suited to his style. I'm just tired of people blaming Hughes for selling Huth, blame him for signing wolly, blame him for not getting a replacement when shawcross back injuries became a concern. Blame him for tikka tacka that doesn't work. But the Huth deal was right for all parties and I'm chuffed for Huth he's won the league. |
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Post by thebet365 on May 5, 2016 13:40:22 GMT
Of course you win some you lose some. And we've been spoiled with the amount we've won with our dogs home players that have come good for us. So why can't people understand there's usually a reason why players excel more at 1 club than others ? It's usually down to tactics/managers style. We play out from the back with the ball and hold a high line without the ball. Huth sits deep and never asks for the ball off the keeper. Now you can argue all you like if Hughes is right or wrong with his tactics/vision of how he wants his team to play. But you can't argue with his decision that Huth and Hughes style just don't match. Leicester have fit Huth like a glove. 2 old fashioned cb's sitting deep and keeping it simple. We might even see a return to it by more clubs now. And Leicester have just won the Premiere League, hopefully we will hold on to tenth, it may be old fashioned but it works as for our playing the ball out from he back, remind me what is our goal difference. That's a totally different discussion though so stop being so childish. I've never once defended Hughes tactics as being right or wrong. Simply choosing to sell a player that doesn't fit the style you want. |
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Post by Davef on May 5, 2016 13:43:21 GMT
Of course you win some you lose some. And we've been spoiled with the amount we've won with our dogs home players that have come good for us. So why can't people understand there's usually a reason why players excel more at 1 club than others ? It's usually down to tactics/managers style. We play out from the back with the ball and hold a high line without the ball. Huth sits deep and never asks for the ball off the keeper. Now you can argue all you like if Hughes is right or wrong with his tactics/vision of how he wants his team to play. But you can't argue with his decision that Huth and Hughes style just don't match. Leicester have fit Huth like a glove. 2 old fashioned cb's sitting deep and keeping it simple. We might even see a return to it by more clubs now. And Leicester have just won the Premiere League, hopefully we will hold on to tenth, it may be old fashioned but it works as for our playing the ball out from he back, remind me what is our goal difference. Our goal difference is currently -14. In 2011/12 when Robert Huth played 31 times for us, our goal difference was -17. In 2012/13 when he played 35 times for us our goal difference was -11. Explain that one away. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 13:43:31 GMT
Eh? He has shown that he was far from his sell by date, has played very well, barely missing a game, in a title winning team and, in contrast, we have missed Shawcross for much of our season, when Huth would have been the perfect replacement. I know a few of those things cannot have been foreseen (Huth had started to look injury prone and we could not have guessed Shawcross would have missed so many games), but, with hindsight (of course, a wonderful thing) his sale was not the best bit of business we have ever done! I am not one to get on Hughes' back for the sake of it, and he has pulled off some great signings (although the jury must still be out on our biggest two), but this is one deal he is probably privately regretting sanctioning. I am not sure why your reply has to be so confrontational, but hey, well done, keyboard warrior. Huth has been brilliant yes, because he's playing in a team suited to his style. I'm just tired of people blaming Hughes for selling Huth, blame him for signing wolly, blame him for not getting a replacement when shawcross back injuries became a concern. Blame him for tikka tacka that doesn't work. But the Huth deal was right for all parties and I'm chuffed for Huth he's won the league. I do blame him for signing wolfy, it is also his fault for not bringing in adequate cover for Ryan, however at the end of last season they knew Ryan was suffering with a potential long term back problem, that is why I blame him for selling Huth. |
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Post by pez75 on May 5, 2016 13:44:33 GMT
The only explanation is Hughes made a mistake In the same way, the only explanation for Liverpool letting Glenn Johnson go on free, is Liverpool made a mistake , and Hughes played a blinder You win some , you lose some Of course you win some you lose some. And we've been spoiled with the amount we've won with our dogs home players that have come good for us. So why can't people understand there's usually a reason why players excel more at 1 club than others ? It's usually down to tactics/managers style. We play out from the back with the ball and hold a high line without the ball. Huth sits deep and never asks for the ball off the keeper. Now you can argue all you like if Hughes is right or wrong with his tactics/vision of how he wants his team to play. But you can't argue with his decision that Huth and Hughes style just don't match. Leicester have fit Huth like a glove. 2 old fashioned cb's sitting deep and keeping it simple. We might even see a return to it by more clubs now. Exactly. Those looking at Hugh through misty eyes dont seem to be able to grasp this. Time to move on. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 13:45:35 GMT
And Leicester have just won the Premiere League, hopefully we will hold on to tenth, it may be old fashioned but it works as for our playing the ball out from he back, remind me what is our goal difference. Our goal difference is currently -14. In 2011/12 when Robert Huth played 31 times for us, our goal difference was -17. In 2012/13 when he played 35 times for us our goal difference was -11. Explain that one away. Possession of the ball  i.e. we have more possession than any Pulis team ever will, if we have the ball our defence by default is under far less pressure simple enough. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 13:47:30 GMT
And Leicester have just won the Premiere League, hopefully we will hold on to tenth, it may be old fashioned but it works as for our playing the ball out from he back, remind me what is our goal difference. That's a totally different discussion though so stop being so childish. I've never once defended Hughes tactics as being right or wrong. Simply choosing to sell a player that doesn't fit the style you want. But he chose to keep Wilson over Huth ??? |
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Post by thebet365 on May 5, 2016 13:50:23 GMT
That's a totally different discussion though so stop being so childish. I've never once defended Hughes tactics as being right or wrong. Simply choosing to sell a player that doesn't fit the style you want. But he chose to keep Wilson over Huth ??? No huh was wanted Wilson wasn't. Wilson is happy being a squad player. Huth demands 1st team. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 13:52:31 GMT
But he chose to keep Wilson over Huth ??? No huh was wanted Wilson wasn't. Wilson is happy being a squad player. Huth demands 1st team. There is a reason for that as we have errrmmmmmmm seen this season.  |
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Post by thebet365 on May 5, 2016 13:55:51 GMT
No huh was wanted Wilson wasn't. Wilson is happy being a squad player. Huth demands 1st team. There is a reason for that as we have errrmmmmmmm seen this season. I think we're getting somewhere at last. So if you have a good defender that plays a different defensive style to what you're trying to impose on the team. You have 2 options Either change your style to suit said defender or sell him. To do neither would be the biggest mistake of all. |
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Post by samba :) on May 5, 2016 14:01:58 GMT
Still best mates!Warning - to those with sensitive computers, this is a link to a Sentinel page! Cheers for the warning |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 14:04:23 GMT
We would still be in tenth position and still have the same wank goal difference even if Huth had played every game this season for us.
Our issues run a lot deeper than a centre half who had hardly figured during our two record breaking seasons under this manager.
Let it go you big mard arses.
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Post by KevinWhimper on May 5, 2016 14:18:06 GMT
Why are people arguing about Huth again.
HE'S LEFT. GONE. NEVER COMING BACK.
FUCKING GET OVER IT MY FUCKING GOD.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 5, 2016 14:18:58 GMT
There is a reason for that as we have errrmmmmmmm seen this season. I think we're getting somewhere at last. So if you have a good defender that plays a different defensive style to what you're trying to impose on the team. You have 2 options Either change your style to suit said defender or sell him. To do neither would be the biggest mistake of all. I am not so sure I agree - Hughes seems to prefer to play one stopper (Shawcross) and one ball-playing centre back (Wollscheid). Huth could not partner Shawcross in this system, but he could cover for him in the multitude of games Ryan has missed this past two seasons. Again, we could never guess Ryan would be absent so often, and presumably Huth wanted a guaranteed start we could not give him. Selling Huth was maybe the right decision, made at the wrong time. Hughes did, though, choose not to bring in adequate cover for Ryan last summer, and also chose to sign the less than stellar Wollscheid as his new partner. He compounded one error by making two more. Let's hope he focuses on the signing of at least one quality centre back this close season, maybe even two if Wilson is let go as well. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 5, 2016 14:23:00 GMT
There is a reason for that as we have errrmmmmmmm seen this season. I think we're getting somewhere at last. So if you have a good defender that plays a different defensive style to what you're trying to impose on the team. You have 2 options Either change your style to suit said defender or sell him. To do neither would be the biggest mistake of all. Or replace him with one that struggles with either style now that is a mistake. |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on May 5, 2016 14:23:28 GMT
I think we're getting somewhere at last. So if you have a good defender that plays a different defensive style to what you're trying to impose on the team. You have 2 options Either change your style to suit said defender or sell him. To do neither would be the biggest mistake of all. I am not so sure I agree - Hughes seems to prefer to play one stopper (Shawcross) and one ball-playing centre back (Wollscheid). Huth could not partner Shawcross in this system, but he could cover for him in the multitude of games Ryan has missed this past two seasons. Again, we could never guess Ryan would be absent so often, and presumably Huth wanted a guaranteed start we could not give him. Selling Huth was maybe the right decision, made at the wrong time. Hughes did, though, choose not to bring in adequate cover for Ryan last summer, and also chose to sign the less than stellar Wollscheid as his new partner. He compounded one error by making two more. Let's hope he focuses on the signing of at least one quality centre back this close season, maybe even two if Wilson is let go as well. Spot on Jezza |
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Post by Lightwood on May 5, 2016 14:35:27 GMT
There are a few digs in there at how things are at Stoke these days, are there not? The sale of Huth will go down as the biggest bollock dropped by Hughes in terms of player departures. I think there in digs in both players tweets |
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Post by Davef on May 5, 2016 16:11:18 GMT
Our goal difference is currently -14. In 2011/12 when Robert Huth played 31 times for us, our goal difference was -17. In 2012/13 when he played 35 times for us our goal difference was -11. Explain that one away. Possession of the ball i.e. we have more possession than any Pulis team ever will, if we have the ball our defence by default is under far less pressure simple enough. Right, so goal difference isn't THAT important. |
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pisser, panzer tank to a pansy tank.
i.e. we have more possession than any Pulis team ever will, if we have the ball our defence by default is under far less pressure simple enough. 
