rich0529
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Post by rich0529 on May 16, 2016 11:21:26 GMT
Sign the contract ARNIE!!! PLEASE! would be amazing if he did before he went to France.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 11:23:21 GMT
Why would or should he?
A great tournament and he can name his price. A bad tournament or an injury and he can wait until January where Hughes has already hinted the club might allow him to run his deal down.
We'll be his last choice. The consolation prize.
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 16, 2016 11:35:18 GMT
Massively overrated. Very good on his day but inconsistent lazy & unpredictable. Not someone you can rely on. We've relied on him all season. He's been directly involved in about 40% of our goals. Spot on. 11 goals and 6 assists from a winger is a fantastic return, I dread to think where we'd have been without his outstanding contribution.
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2016 11:44:58 GMT
Valencia bound?
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 16, 2016 11:48:38 GMT
The same Valencia who aren't in Europe (if I'm not mistaken) and won't be able to offer as much money as us? doubt it.
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Post by superscfc on May 19, 2016 20:21:17 GMT
Really hope no tempting offers come in for Arnie and we can agree a new contract.
I expect him to leave in the summer and I'll be absolutely gutted when he does go, struggle to replace him on the cheap
Goarn Arnie sign the contract and bag a hat trick at the euros!!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 20:49:17 GMT
I would like Arnie to stay but if he goes we'll replace him with someone else who hopefully will make a similar contribution. I'd like to see Townsend out there to be honest. He'd give us a different dimension with the ability to go past people on the outside which for me was sorely lacking last season.
You never know we may be even stronger.
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Post by wawaweewa on May 19, 2016 20:53:21 GMT
Arnie is that one player who stands out in a team with mediocre players at the moment, he's been consistent and reliable while the rest have performed below expectation - Butland have been excellent as well, but Arnie surely made this season somewhat satisfactory for us Stoke fans.
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Post by nonameface on May 19, 2016 21:05:41 GMT
Arnie is that one player who stands out in a team with mediocre players at the moment, he's been consistent and reliable while the rest have performed below expectation - Butland have been excellent as well, but Arnie surely made this season somewhat satisfactory for us Stoke fans. Think saying mediocre for some of the players is being a little harsh, but agree with the sentiment- he was head and shoulders above everyone else and along with Nzonzi has been one of two stand out players for us in the premier league. Convinced Arnie would look good in a champions league team, just pleased we had the pleasure of him for a while!
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 19, 2016 21:28:04 GMT
Why would or should he? A great tournament and he can name his price. A bad tournament or an injury and he can wait until January where Hughes has already hinted the club might allow him to run his deal down. We'll be his last choice. The consolation prize. Is there an argument along the lines of he's blotted his copybook on the continent and despite what he may or may not do this summer and his undoubted achievement for us that the door back abroad is closed. I know it doesn't work like that but as a broader overview will he still be seen as a handful to be avoided.
It'd be reassuring of course to know his intentions beforehand but that's not about to happen.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 19, 2016 23:01:25 GMT
Why would or should he? A great tournament and he can name his price. A bad tournament or an injury and he can wait until January where Hughes has already hinted the club might allow him to run his deal down. We'll be his last choice. The consolation prize. Is there an argument along the lines of he's blotted his copybook on the continent and despite what he may or may not do this summer and his undoubted achievement for us that the door back abroad is closed. I know it doesn't work like that but as a broader overview will he still be seen as a handful to be avoided.
It'd be reassuring of course to know his intentions beforehand but that's not about to happen.
'Abroad' isn't one big, amorphous place with the same attitudes to everything though. He'll almost certainly have reasonably high stock in Germany, let alone countries he hasn't played.
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Post by bookofsouls23 on May 20, 2016 1:18:05 GMT
If he wants to go Goodbye marko, you've got more money. If he wants to stay, well done marko,you've earned more money.
Professional footballers bore me.the game in general bores me,it's just complete greed. I've fell out of love with our great game. How sad ay
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 1:39:00 GMT
Massively overrated. Very good on his day but inconsistent lazy & unpredictable. Not someone you can rely on. 0/10 for effort.
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Post by kurt on May 20, 2016 6:27:19 GMT
Arnie is that one player who stands out in a team with mediocre players at the moment, he's been consistent and reliable while the rest have performed below expectation - Butland have been excellent as well, but Arnie surely made this season somewhat satisfactory for us Stoke fans. Curiously enough Arni was the only player this season in the offensive who has shown constant performance over a majority of the games. If Bojan, Shaq, Joselu, Diouf, Crouch or Walters (all of them have shown their class only in a couple of games) would have played constantly good as Arni, i´m sure we would have qualified for the Euro League respectively finishing better than 9th.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 20, 2016 6:35:52 GMT
Is there an argument along the lines of he's blotted his copybook on the continent and despite what he may or may not do this summer and his undoubted achievement for us that the door back abroad is closed. I know it doesn't work like that but as a broader overview will he still be seen as a handful to be avoided.
It'd be reassuring of course to know his intentions beforehand but that's not about to happen.
'Abroad' isn't one big, amorphous place with the same attitudes to everything though. He'll almost certainly have reasonably high stock in Germany, let alone countries he hasn't played. Assuming he stays and we get off to a flyer this season, (hopefully) then brand SCFC and our profile becomes a lot higher, we ought to attract and therefore become a more viable choice for talent when it comes to selecting who to play for. Whilst that bit of success is proving elusive you can't blame individuals for looking elsewhere before the 'Best before' date looms. I really want this lot to click on a consistent basis and send out a message to the wider footballing community. Having guys like Arnie around can only help that ambition. I don't want to have his children or anything but see him as part of the equation.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 20, 2016 6:46:16 GMT
'Abroad' isn't one big, amorphous place with the same attitudes to everything though. He'll almost certainly have reasonably high stock in Germany, let alone countries he hasn't played. Assuming he stays and we get off to a flyer this season, (hopefully) then brand SCFC and our profile becomes a lot higher, we ought to attract and therefore become a more viable choice for talent when it comes to selecting who to play for. Whilst that bit of success is proving elusive you can't blame individuals for looking elsewhere before the 'Best before' date looms. I really want this lot to click on a consistent basis and send out a message to the wider footballing community. Having guys like Arnie around can only help that ambition. I don't want to have his children or anything but see him as part of the equation.
It'd be great if he stayed but the reality is that bigger and/or more successful clubs than us are seen as stepping stones in this league, let alone us, so we have to be brace ourselves to lose our star players. Buying low and selling for a profit was very much part of the new model envisaged when we changed managers.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 20, 2016 7:14:55 GMT
Assuming he stays and we get off to a flyer this season, (hopefully) then brand SCFC and our profile becomes a lot higher, we ought to attract and therefore become a more viable choice for talent when it comes to selecting who to play for. Whilst that bit of success is proving elusive you can't blame individuals for looking elsewhere before the 'Best before' date looms. I really want this lot to click on a consistent basis and send out a message to the wider footballing community. Having guys like Arnie around can only help that ambition. I don't want to have his children or anything but see him as part of the equation.
It'd be great if he stayed but the reality is that bigger and/or more successful clubs than us are seen as stepping stones in this league, let alone us, so we have to be brace ourselves to lose our star players. Buying low and selling for a profit was very much part of the new model envisaged when we changed managers. A model Southampton are using to good effect.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 20, 2016 7:47:38 GMT
It'd be great if he stayed but the reality is that bigger and/or more successful clubs than us are seen as stepping stones in this league, let alone us, so we have to be brace ourselves to lose our star players. Buying low and selling for a profit was very much part of the new model envisaged when we changed managers. A model Southampton are using to good effect. Very true.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 23, 2016 6:59:11 GMT
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Post by nott1 on May 23, 2016 7:33:43 GMT
He's obviously waiting to jump ship as soon as he can!
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Post by george2again on May 23, 2016 7:45:59 GMT
As good as he been, hes off for the most money...arn't they all. We should be looking to replace him now (not with Redmond who is back up at best) and if for some reason he stays we have a stronger squad. Lets stop messing about and get Yarmo in. Why do footballers think when they a year left thats the end of the contract? Another year left as I see it but it really is a flaw of the current system. How about a scenario where the club says we are going to kepp you till the end of your contract and sod any transfer fee. There enough money around to do that now. If the club keeps the player he riskd a lack of form and injury meaning no long term big money move. What you will get if this happens is sulky footballers not trying because they didnt get there own way. Move on and quick.
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Post by nott1 on May 23, 2016 7:49:55 GMT
Yarmo or Kono (he's not starting games).
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:43:59 GMT
Makes sense. Hopefully he has a great tournament.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 23, 2016 9:02:29 GMT
Makes sense. Hopefully he has a great tournament. So, if no-one pays £12.5m for him we'll keep him and then let him go for nothing at the end of the season? I don't think so.
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Post by mrred on May 23, 2016 9:05:43 GMT
What get's on my tits about the bloke is he doesn't have the bollocks to say he's looking to make a step up. Don't come out and say, to paraphrase; "I love it here and I love the fans but it's out of my hands". Just have the bollocks to say it's your decision. We know where we are as a club, we know we're occasionally going to come across some mercenaries. I'm not saying he's one of them as I'm sure he's got some affinity to the club, but man up for fuck sake. I watched a reel of Ric's goals yesterday. As far as I'm concerned, Arnie will never be held to the same regard as him nor will he be as important to us as he was. I don't know why people fawn over him and cling on to him as the next messiah. He's good, he's very good on his day. But I won't lose sleep when he goes.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 23, 2016 9:07:10 GMT
He's obviously minded to wait and see what emerges for him later in the summer, especially if he has an eye-catching Euros.
But I'm still not sure a more attractive move will open up for him.
If he's aiming for £70k+ and regular football,there are probably only 10(?) viable destinations for him in Europe who could offer the fee, wages and improved sporting situation.
He won't interest the absolute top clubs so there's maybe 3 or 4 options in England, a couple in Germany, a couple in Spain, a couple in Italy?
Will one of them bite the bullet and single him out for what will be a big package for pretty much any club outside the Premier League? Still think it's unlikely.
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Post by Mcdanger on May 23, 2016 9:11:58 GMT
If he wants go then let him fuck off, he only plays for about 20 minutes each game anyway!! Don't get me wrong he has the potential to be world class....but chooses to be a sulky mard arse!!! And I can't believe I have just read somebody say he is on shit money at Stoke!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 9:24:54 GMT
If he wants go then let him fuck off, he only plays for about 20 minutes each game anyway!! Don't get me wrong he has the potential to be world class....but chooses to be a sulky mard arse!!! And I can't believe I have just read somebody say he is on shit money at Stoke!!!!!! What an absolute load of bollocks.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 23, 2016 9:34:21 GMT
Marko is staying. He loves stoke city. He just making sure we sign progressive players. He top dog next season and will enjoy being our 15/20 goals player. His brother is his agent and talks will resume soon. Team # arna . He on crap wages at stoke city and stayed last season. To keep Improving. Which he has done. There still room for improvement. A bigger team may eventually want him. No this summer,I don't think ,he not good enough yet.I will be very surprised if he leaves this summer. Crap wages is maybe taking it a bit far!? ![8-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/rY_vRFLA3mqqdMbEG4cF.gif)
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Post by warringtonstokie on May 23, 2016 9:47:33 GMT
Isn't the main reason for him not signing that he's apparently on significantly less than the likes of Shaqiri and Imbula? I'm sure him and his brother must know that realistically there aren't going to be too many clubs richer and higher up than Stoke that he can go to.
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