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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 8, 2016 16:18:34 GMT
Some recent posts have had me well and truly gobsmacked! We are a team that's in transition and we're gradually strengthening our squad. There have been a couple of players that maybe shouldn't have been sold but name me one manager that has not made mistakes? Some of the football that I have witnessed this season is by far the best I've seen over the 35 years that I've been watching Stoke. At times it really works, others in does not but Jesus I've been amazed at how impressive it's been at times. Come on lads, we're on the up after a pretty shit few weeks. Sorry, it needed saying,especially to the ones that boo our team!
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 8, 2016 16:31:20 GMT
I would never boo the team or any player, but it has to be said that our form has hit a worrying downward spiral in recent weeks and I suggest fans will continue to be worried until we start scoring a few goals and stop conceding bucketfuls at the other end.
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Post by reddipotter on Feb 8, 2016 16:43:57 GMT
That word 'transition' is the issue, isn't it? I remain confused about what we are trying to be, as the approach seems to change every couple of games. I can only conclude that the manager doesn't either and is just hoping that things will fall into place which is what seems to have happened for the good performances over the past two and a half years. I'm glad you have enjoyed some games. I have found this the most frustrating and often boring season since promotion (except for Pulis' last half season). Four decent games by mid February is not good enough. But I never boo my team.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 8, 2016 17:05:44 GMT
That word 'transition' is the issue, isn't it? I remain confused about what we are trying to be, as the approach seems to change every couple of games. I can only conclude that the manager doesn't either and is just hoping that things will fall into place which is what seems to have happened for the good performances over the past two and a half years. I'm glad you have enjoyed some games. I have found this the most frustrating and often boring season since promotion (except for Pulis' last half season). Four decent games by mid February is not good enough. But I never boo my team. I thought that the Everton away match was better and more entertaining than any game under pulis in his final years. It's not about Tone though, it's about gratitude and negativity. I've been as frustrated as anyone but am optimistic, very much so too.
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Post by Northy on Feb 8, 2016 17:08:34 GMT
It's all these free radical electrons floating about the place, I blame El Nino
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Post by generationex on Feb 8, 2016 17:12:00 GMT
0-3.0-3.0-3. May explain it.
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 8, 2016 17:13:14 GMT
0-3.0-3.0-3. May explain it. Plus dumped out of 2 cup competitions doesn't help
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 8, 2016 17:18:49 GMT
Yep that's where the negativity, if you want to call it that, is coming from.
Dumped out of both cups. Lost three nil. Lost three nil again. Lost three nil yet again. At home.
That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on.
However:
Booing players or the team - unacceptable. Demanding the manager quit - unacceptable.
We need to get behind the team and the manager and cheer them on, show them we are behind them at all times. These past few games need not define us, and it's easy to forget that we actually put in a stunning performance at Anfield in the middle of all that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 17:22:41 GMT
That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on. The fans can ask what the holy Hell is going on, but I rather doubt that they will get any answers. Answers from the people that count that is.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 8, 2016 17:23:10 GMT
Yep that's where the negativity, if you want to call it that, is coming from. Dumped out of both cups. Lost three nil. Lost three nil again. Lost three nil yet again. At home. That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on. However: Booing players or the team - unacceptable. Demanding the manager quit - unacceptable. We need to get behind the team and the manager and cheer them on, show them we are behind them at all times. These past few games need not define us, and it's easy to forget that we actually put in a stunning performance at Anfield in the middle of all that. It was an heroic performance at Anfield rather than stunning. We were clearly the better side, defended well but 2 shots on targets tells you this game showcased some of our issues just as much as the three 3-0 reverses have.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 8, 2016 17:39:16 GMT
The great football has been at least matched by the very disappointing and rather dull football. Hence the 'negativity'. It's mid table stuff and has been all season. Not that that's anything to moan about.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 17:45:52 GMT
Is the original post aimed at the fans or the team :-)
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Post by sportsman on Feb 8, 2016 17:55:41 GMT
Yep that's where the negativity, if you want to call it that, is coming from. Dumped out of both cups. Lost three nil. Lost three nil again. Lost three nil yet again. At home. That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on. However: Booing players or the team - unacceptable. Demanding the manager quit - unacceptable. We need to get behind the team and the manager and cheer them on, show them we are behind them at all times. These past few games need not define us, and it's easy to forget that we actually put in a stunning performance at Anfield in the middle of all that. Anyone that suggests Hughes should quit or be sacked should have their season card took off them or drop kicked .
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 8, 2016 18:09:12 GMT
Yep that's where the negativity, if you want to call it that, is coming from. Dumped out of both cups. Lost three nil. Lost three nil again. Lost three nil yet again. At home. That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on. However: Booing players or the team - unacceptable. Demanding the manager quit - unacceptable. We need to get behind the team and the manager and cheer them on, show them we are behind them at all times. These past few games need not define us, and it's easy to forget that we actually put in a stunning performance at Anfield in the middle of all that. Anyone that suggests Hughes should quit or be sacked should have their season card took off them or drop kicked . They should have their season ticket taken off them and then be drop kicked.
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Post by usapotter on Feb 8, 2016 18:09:29 GMT
Not saying that I am worried but I can see where others are coming from. - 3 3-0 defeats in the league in a row. Has to be concerning. - Ryan is hurt and we play bad when he is not fit. - Our attacking three that spoiled us with some beautiful goals and attacks has gone missing. - Diouf and Joselu look to be our best options as an out and out striker, yet we start Peter Crouch? - Our outside backs who also spoiled us in the end of 2015 have made a U-turn
Just bringing up some points. Merely my opinion from what I have seen in games and on here (some people on here are nuts though). I think we'll get back into it eventually and finish higher than last year. Imbula looked the part the other day to be honest.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 8, 2016 18:13:52 GMT
Anyone that suggests Hughes should quit or be sacked should have their season card took off them or drop kicked . They should have their season ticket taken off them and then be drop kicked. Even better
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 8, 2016 18:55:36 GMT
Yep that's where the negativity, if you want to call it that, is coming from. Dumped out of both cups. Lost three nil. Lost three nil again. Lost three nil yet again. At home. That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on. However: Booing players or the team - unacceptable. Demanding the manager quit - unacceptable. We need to get behind the team and the manager and cheer them on, show them we are behind them at all times. These past few games need not define us, and it's easy to forget that we actually put in a stunning performance at Anfield in the middle of all that. It was an heroic performance at Anfield rather than stunning. We were clearly the better side, defended well but 2 shots on targets tells you this game showcased some of our issues just as much as the three 3-0 reverses have. Ok stunning's a bit over the top but no worse an exaggeration than some of the negative descriptions of the current team.
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 9, 2016 12:16:51 GMT
We appear to be have been in transition for 2 1/2 years-when do we actually get there?
The false number 9 worked when no-body knew what we could do with it.After about 3 games it was sussed out and now teams just block us out.
And perhaps the negativity is because we have lost our last 3 league matches 3-0!
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Post by mcf on Feb 9, 2016 13:50:38 GMT
Any season will have ups and downs but lets cut out this 'a team in transition' bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 14:00:12 GMT
Any season will have ups and downs but lets cut out this 'a team in transition' bollocks. I don't buy it either. We're inconsistent. If we're in transition, what to, and how long does it take? The football that people think we're are 'transitioning to' is already here. The squad might be a work in progress (all squads always are, stand still and you go backwards, etc etc), but that's about it.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 9, 2016 14:00:22 GMT
Any season will have ups and downs but lets cut out this 'a team in transition' bollocks. We're building a team, so we're in transition. Most teams are too but we're bringing in quality and (as you say)will have our ups and downs. I find some of the negativity pathetic.
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Post by mcf on Feb 9, 2016 14:46:56 GMT
Nobody seemed to have an issue with the negativity a few years back though did they.
Getting beat now and again is understandable but the complete lack of effort on Saturday is something I've not seen for a very, very long time. One thing we could be certain of is that we would always try to a man. To have such quality and then have to watch them swan around is unacceptable. I think that is why a few are really pissed off.
These things can turn pretty quickly though and we are well placed so I'm still all rainbows and sunshine.
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Post by boweryboy on Feb 9, 2016 15:48:57 GMT
It's annoying that we are out of both cups for me ,because Liverpool had a weakness in defence in the air which we didn't exploit in the home game..if Hughes had got his tactics right,and played the same eleven at home as he played away we might have been in the final now......but then what does he do against Man U. A team that hasn't got a weakness in the air at the back,played the same eleven that played at Liverpool...when surely we should have gone with the team that beat them at home or as good as if they weren't all available......to dismiss the FA cup and put a weak side out and save players for the Man U. game....and we all know how that turned out was unbelievable.....
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Post by stokefanone on Feb 9, 2016 17:07:22 GMT
We have had a bad month, Shawcross and Cameron injuries one big reason, also Shaqiri playing well below fitness and Diouf, Bojan, Arnie poor form, and we have also played some strong teams, Leicester, Man Utd, Everton. We have been very poor, moral low due to cup upset. Things will pick up, a good winning performance and confidence will return. Players need to start playing to their potential and not slacking, like some are at the moment. Lets hope Shawcross returns soon, will need to buy a top centre half in the summer, can't keep putting all the weight on his shoulders. Stop knocking the team, things will pick up soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 17:17:26 GMT
We have had a bad month, Shawcross and Cameron injuries one big reason, also Shaqiri playing well below fitness and Diouf, Bojan, Arnie poor form, and we have also played some strong teams, Leicester, Man Utd, Everton. We have been very poor, moral low due to cup upset. Things will pick up, a good winning performance and confidence will return. Players need to start playing to their potential and not slacking, like some are at the moment. Lets hope Shawcross returns soon, will need to buy a top centre half in the summer, can't keep putting all the weight on his shoulders. Stop knocking the team, things will pick up soon. This this this this this
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 9, 2016 17:34:06 GMT
Yep that's where the negativity, if you want to call it that, is coming from. Dumped out of both cups. Lost three nil. Lost three nil again. Lost three nil yet again. At home. That's pretty shit, by anybody's standards, and it's right and proper for fans to ask questions about what the holy Hell is going on. However: Booing players or the team - unacceptable. Demanding the manager quit - unacceptable. We need to get behind the team and the manager and cheer them on, show them we are behind them at all times. These past few games need not define us, and it's easy to forget that we actually put in a stunning performance at Anfield in the middle of all that. Great post!
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Post by mcf on Feb 9, 2016 17:43:05 GMT
The Liverpool episode was a real kick in the nuts and so you can forgive the FA Cup and The Shit away games.
Saturday was simply pathetic though and highlighted a few problems that need fixing quickly. I have no idea from one week to the next who will play up front. Wollschied is a liability and although he's had a few decent games you just sense you are always a moment away from a fuck up.
Saturday won't be easy but we need to get it sorted for the 2 home winnable games coming up.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 9, 2016 17:51:47 GMT
We appear to be have been in transition for 2 1/2 years-when do we actually get there? The false number 9 worked when no-body knew what we could do with it.After about 3 games it was sussed out and now teams just block us out. And perhaps the negativity is because we have lost our last 3 league matches 3-0! totally agree.......we have been told we are in transition ever since LMH took over. How long can this 'explanation' be used as an excuse for poor performances? Didn't take long for Ranieri to transform Leicester I notice.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 9, 2016 18:03:43 GMT
We appear to be have been in transition for 2 1/2 years-when do we actually get there? The false number 9 worked when no-body knew what we could do with it.After about 3 games it was sussed out and now teams just block us out. And perhaps the negativity is because we have lost our last 3 league matches 3-0! totally agree.......we have been told we are in transition ever since LMH took over. How long can this 'explanation' be used as an excuse for poor performances? Didn't take long for Ranieri to transform Leicester I notice. It did for Manchester United with Alex Fergusson in charge, who's the most successful manager in British history.
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Post by Gods on Feb 9, 2016 18:04:29 GMT
The Liverpool episode was a real kick in the nuts and so you can forgive the FA Cup and The Shit away games. Saturday was simply pathetic though and highlighted a few problems that need fixing quickly. I have no idea from one week to the next who will play up front. Wollschied is a liability and although he's had a few decent games you just sense you are always a moment away from a fuck up. Saturday won't be easy but we need to get it sorted for the 2 home winnable games coming up. I am massively pissed off about the FA Cup. Palace had lost 5 on the bounce in the Prem. It felt like most of what remained of our season died that day. With regard to the League no one will really remember if we finish 12th or 14th.
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