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Post by nicholasjalcock on Dec 30, 2015 10:49:27 GMT
Nigel Johnson still thinks they're playing?!
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 30, 2015 11:07:52 GMT
As fantastic as it is at the moment, Hudson and Greenhoff would have walked into this team And Waddo would've loved to have had some of these players in his team. I was thinking the same thing - Waddington would have loved to have the likes of Bojan, Arnie and Shaqiri in his team. And, although they don't have play on mud baths these days, those three would have coped with it fine. I'd put these teams on a par just now - noting only that this current side has the potential to surpass the 70s greats. Which is a thrilling prospect!
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Post by lancer on Dec 30, 2015 11:16:30 GMT
I watched you play some wonderful football BUT You are in grave danger of being the second best team we ever had. This lot really are that good But what we are missing is the final part of the jigsaw, a Big John...as in Ritchie! God, if we could find another like Big John to feed off our new three amigos, we'd walk the league.
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Post by jzime on Dec 30, 2015 11:23:04 GMT
How much longer can we keep our star players though when they are consistently putting great performances. Would hate to see the vultures come in and pinch our prize assets. I believe we can keep them for a good while. We're like an inverse Southampton at the moment. They've signed a lot of very good players that nobody had really heard of from smaller clubs, players who are going to be swayed by the temptations of interest from Manchester United or Liverpool. Our star players have been signed from clubs with massive reputations, and have come down Stoke in search of regular first team football. I don't see Bojan or Shaqiri leaving anytime soon, when they are genuinely settled for the first time since they were teenagers. Arnie is the only one that worries me. But we'll keep him in January, give him a new contract and see what happens in the summer. Even if we do sell him in the summer (and I'm honestly fairly confident we won't), we'll sell him for well over ten times the £2 million we brought him for and buy Yarmolenko for around £15 million. Worse things could happen.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2015 11:28:00 GMT
I watched you play some wonderful football BUT You are in grave danger of being the second best team we ever had. This lot really are that good But what we are missing is the final part of the jigsaw, a Big John...as in Ritchie! God, if we could find another like Big John to feed off our new three amigos, we'd walk the league. I agree totally but.. Lukaku cost £30m! Benteke cost £30m! Whereas a gamble on Joselu at £5m has been roundly derided on here. It may still work out but who knows?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 30, 2015 11:28:13 GMT
I watched you play some wonderful football BUT You are in grave danger of being the second best team we ever had. This lot really are that good But what we are missing is the final part of the jigsaw, a Big John...as in Ritchie! God, if we could find another like Big John to feed off our new three amigos, we'd walk the league. I was just going to post similar. We don't need Greenhoff and Hudson we need a Ritchie, a 20 a goal season striker! I must say I did think Hudson walked on water, he had too on those pitches!
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Post by lancer on Dec 30, 2015 14:09:10 GMT
But what we are missing is the final part of the jigsaw, a Big John...as in Ritchie! God, if we could find another like Big John to feed off our new three amigos, we'd walk the league. I agree totally but.. Lukaku cost £30m! Benteke cost £30m! Whereas a gamble on Joselu at £5m has been roundly derided on here. It may still work out but who knows? Agreed, mate, Joselu may well be the one we want. He's in need of games to show his full abilities,and the way he took his goal shows a lot in there, but I can remember when we got Big John from Kettering, and he played his first few games. He was laughable, almost pitiful, and and about as far from what he turned out to he that you could imagine, but boy, given his chance, did he come out a star.Lukaku is good, he is VERY good, but he is not a patch on Big John Ritchie,
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Post by chad on Dec 30, 2015 17:39:15 GMT
I watched you play some wonderful football BUT You are in grave danger of being the second best team we ever had. This lot really are that good do the present stoke flair players have to perform on boggy muddy pitches and ruthless vicious defenders who were allowed to go right through you to win the ball ? No. That's why it's impossible to compare really. But in terms of entertainment this like being back in 75
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Post by Davef on Dec 30, 2015 17:50:24 GMT
I watched you play some wonderful football BUT You are in grave danger of being the second best team we ever had. This lot really are that good do the present stoke flair players have to perform on boggy muddy pitches and ruthless vicious defenders who were allowed to go right through you to win the ball ? No. And children don't have to sweep chimneys either.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 30, 2015 17:57:24 GMT
Giving our age away now folks! Can't really make comparisons myself with the current team and the team I idolised back in the 70's in my early and late teens. It's just too much of a different type of game today. What I can say is, I can't recall the great 70's team bringing back too many wins from such places as Man City, Tottenham, Southampton, but they did manage to win some silverware, get robbed on not one, but two occasions in the sem-finals of the F A cup (mentioning no names) and almost win the league. In my book, If the boys can go on and win silverware this season and better last season's finishing position in the league while playing the kind of football I have had the privilege to witness over the last few games, then I'm sure this squad of players we have today will definitely achieve more than the early and mid 70's team ever did. 'Just my tuppence worth'. Bang on. This team has the potential to be the best ever. However, it does need to be sustained for 2 or 3 seasons, not just 2 or 3 games.
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Post by castleblack on Dec 31, 2015 0:10:54 GMT
the best ever!!, i am from the sixties/seventies school and the best football i saw was from the hudson ,greenhough era but i feel the best era must have been the mathews steel and franklin days,all automatic england internationals without compare. what i have seen of the latest team is football being played with great skill and a true pride in the club,these contenental players are very good and are just starting to gell togetherthe so the potential now is massive and as long as hughes and the coates family stick to the job stoke city will have a real golden era. a bit scary but marvelous.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 31, 2015 0:44:25 GMT
We won our only major trophy in the 70's got to two FA cup semi finals and were fucking robbed in both, qualified for Europe twice on merit and robbed of a third time. Played some great sides off the park including Ajax who were the Barca of the time. Not yet Baloo
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 31, 2015 9:01:07 GMT
It is not possible to compare. The present team members have individual physical abilities in terms of athleticism and ball skills as good as most if not better than the 70s team; they have yet to show they can sustain it throughout season after season. The question is about the team, not individuals, and for me we have to remember the 70s team performed on dreadful pitches against some ferocious defenders (think of Leeds for one team) who would not be allowed on the pitch these days. The same goes for some of the Stoke 70s players. So IMO the jury is still out.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 31, 2015 9:04:39 GMT
The thirties side with Mathews,the world's best player at the time,Steele,Franklin (England's best ever defender) and Joe Johnson must have been fantastic. My dad used to praise Freddie Steele to the heavens. He considered him the best goal scorer in England.
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