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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 4, 2016 17:16:17 GMT
Yep 100% of the blame has to lie at the door of that greasy fucking turd yacob.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jan 4, 2016 17:16:46 GMT
I mentioned on Saturday after seeing a rerun of the incident there is no way they could give a red for violent conduct and that is what a straight red is. Mason in his defence was totally shafted by Yacob the cheating twat. Isn't it about time the refs union got involved. Whilst he was wrong, he was conned by that cheating twat Yacob. Yes, he should expect certain players to try and con him more than others but still refs have a hard enough time as it is. If refs insisted on laws to ban cheats after the fact they would have to face less of it. Incidentally the PFA are shocking. One of their members basically screwing another (assuming they are both members of course). They do fuck all too. |
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Post by steve66 on Jan 4, 2016 17:17:22 GMT
The clincher about this is : although Cameron attempted the 'bitch slap' he either a) did not connect at all b) actually clipped the lad on the shoulder blade - if at all and the lad was a cheat -pure and simple B for sure, sure yacobs sly glance from under his elbow caught on camera helped Geoffs cause! |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 4, 2016 17:17:58 GMT
For once we have some thing gone our way.But because of that twat of a ref cost us points.Will be intressed where he ,refs next. Bet he has a top Super Sunday game  He's got Spurs v Leicester in next up in the league.  |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 4, 2016 17:18:44 GMT
"6 - not his fault some idiot got himself sent off. Number of games catching up with lots of teams"
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Post by ukcstokie on Jan 4, 2016 17:19:03 GMT
That's a shock because it was a 'deffo red' and Cameron was 'fucking stupid' . Isn't that right?  It was stupid, especially with a knobhead like Yacob there was no need for Geoff to even get involved especially given what had gone before in the season. That said if the ref has seen it again and said he would have changed his decision (which I believe is the procedure) then it just highlights the fact the FA need to clamp down on play acting and introduce a referral system of some sort in game, similar to that of cricket. Like 1 every game. There is a law to allow them to clamp down already: There was a change introduced for this season whereby if a red card for violent conduct is overturned and the FA Commission thinks that simulation by the player contributed to the referees decision, the penalty can be transferred to the simulating player. So it can happen, but it requires the Commission to first conclude that (in this case) Cameron was not guilty of violent conduct. This would be a perfect opportunity for the FA to send out a message - and they wouldn't even need to tread on the toes of one of their favoured clubs too. |
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Post by Pedropotter on Jan 4, 2016 17:19:33 GMT
The only way we can get an ounce of justice from this is by abusing Jacob and Mason like never before when either of them are next at the brit - full on "Danny Rose" treatment.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 4, 2016 17:20:38 GMT
Bet he has a top Super Sunday game He's got Spurs v Leicester in next up in the league. There you go then. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 4, 2016 17:21:47 GMT
It was stupid, especially with a knobhead like Yacob there was no need for Geoff to even get involved especially given what had gone before in the season. That said if the ref has seen it again and said he would have changed his decision (which I believe is the procedure) then it just highlights the fact the FA need to clamp down on play acting and introduce a referral system of some sort in game, similar to that of cricket. Like 1 every game. There is a law to allow them to clamp down already: There was a change introduced for this season whereby if a red card for violent conduct is overturned and the FA Commission thinks that simulation by the player contributed to the referees decision, the penalty can be transferred to the simulating player. So it can happen, but it requires the Commission to first conclude that (in this case) Cameron was not guilty of violent conduct. This would be a perfect opportunity for the FA to send out a message - and they wouldn't even need to tread on the toes of one of their favoured clubs too. Well there you go then, time to prove they're as committed as they make out. Expect nothing mind. |
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Post by rambo61 on Jan 4, 2016 17:21:58 GMT
Is Tiny Penis becoming the new Wenger??Never sees the"incident" then does fuck all after watching the replays!!Whatever happened to his principles??Three players sent off in two matches??He knows what he's doing!!TWAT of the highest order!!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 4, 2016 17:24:31 GMT
F  This is from a few years ago now, Glenn got studded in the knackers by Vieira, waved his finger and got back up. Maybe it wasn't Pulis all along, maybe we just had honest players? |
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Post by Pedropotter on Jan 4, 2016 17:25:14 GMT
Is Tiny Penis becoming the new Wenger??Never sees the"incident" then does fuck all after watching the replays!!Whatever happened to his principles??Three players sent off in two matches??He knows what he's doing!!TWAT of the highest order!! He's certainly condoning the kind of behaviour that he outlawed during his time with us. Its sad to see and he has really gone down in my estimation. |
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Post by burge2u on Jan 4, 2016 17:25:34 GMT
The only way we can get an ounce of justice from this is by abusing Jacob and Mason like never before when either of them are next at the brit - full on "Danny Rose" treatment. I don't blame the ref, he's only got one look at it in a fast moving situation. Quite clearly (with the benefit of replays) he's been conned by a cheat. Yacob deserves any verbal abuse he gets. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 4, 2016 17:28:10 GMT
The only way we can get an ounce of justice from this is by abusing Jacob and Mason like never before when either of them are next at the brit - full on "Danny Rose" treatment. I don't blame the ref, he's only got one look at it in a fast moving situation. Quite clearly (with the benefit of replays) he's been conned by a cheat. Yacob deserves any verbal abuse he gets. That's the point I'm making about Geoff, by shoving a known play actor like Yacob he's risking the ref making a decision. It was naive, but the referees need more help, if he had a screen to look at he could rescind it in 10 seconds and book/send off Yacob. |
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Post by whydelilah on Jan 4, 2016 17:31:39 GMT
I did try telling you all  WD knows his onions. |
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Post by colinroberts1 on Jan 4, 2016 17:33:22 GMT
Wonder if Hughes bringing a spurs player into the argument changed the fa's thinking ! Said on sky that one of their players raised a hand and flicked opposition player in the face and only got a yellow! Said he just wanted consistency with refs.hope refs target that cheating monkey spunk bubble now an give him the ban the twat deserves !!
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Post by Pedropotter on Jan 4, 2016 17:35:05 GMT
The only way we can get an ounce of justice from this is by abusing Jacob and Mason like never before when either of them are next at the brit - full on "Danny Rose" treatment. I don't blame the ref, he's only got one look at it in a fast moving situation. Quite clearly (with the benefit of replays) he's been conned by a cheat. Yacob deserves any verbal abuse he gets. I see where you are coming from but he couldn't have seen it. All he saw was that twat rolling around and assumed he must have been poleaxed. If he didn't see it he shouldn't have sent Geoff off. If he had seen the incident properly he would have booked Jacob. |
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Post by milky on Jan 4, 2016 17:38:07 GMT
Well well well
One of TPs players officially exposed as a cheat.
Await his next move with interest. ..
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 4, 2016 17:38:11 GMT
Well I got that wrong. Hold up my hands and admit it.
I genuinely believed that appealing was a waste of time.
Great news.
Does this mean I can get my £39.00 x2 back as a cheat failed to deliver what I paid to watch ?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2016 17:39:59 GMT
It was stupid, especially with a knobhead like Yacob there was no need for Geoff to even get involved especially given what had gone before in the season. That said if the ref has seen it again and said he would have changed his decision (which I believe is the procedure) then it just highlights the fact the FA need to clamp down on play acting and introduce a referral system of some sort in game, similar to that of cricket. Like 1 every game. There is a law to allow them to clamp down already: There was a change introduced for this season whereby if a red card for violent conduct is overturned and the FA Commission thinks that simulation by the player contributed to the referees decision, the penalty can be transferred to the simulating player. So it can happen, but it requires the Commission to first conclude that (in this case) Cameron was not guilty of violent conduct. This would be a perfect opportunity for the FA to send out a message - and they wouldn't even need to tread on the toes of one of their favoured clubs too. If the FA aren't going act on this in this instance, you would have to ask why have they even introduced the rule in the first place? |
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Post by uttoxeterpotter on Jan 4, 2016 17:41:08 GMT
If the lost point equates to 2 league places after the weekend results how much in £'s will that cost us at the end of the season if our position is still 2 places lower.
The decision may allow GC to play tomorrow but it could be an expensive mistake come May.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 17:42:58 GMT
I hope the ban is transferred to the west brom faggot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 17:43:04 GMT
There is a law to allow them to clamp down already: This would be a perfect opportunity for the FA to send out a message - and they wouldn't even need to tread on the toes of one of their favoured clubs too. If the FA aren't going act on this in this instance, you would have to ask why have they even introduced the rule in the first place? Oh we know why......biding their time until it's us....fuckers |
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Post by skip on Jan 4, 2016 17:52:46 GMT
A slightly different take on the incident rather than saying Geoff made it easy for the ref is to suggest that Camo (or any other player) only has a split second to react or not to react to a cynical stamp or kick. Sometimes players act in the heat of the moment and he hardly decked the cheating cunt did he. And that's what I would write to the FA if I was Sparky. Word for word. |
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Post by metalhead on Jan 4, 2016 17:54:28 GMT
I cannot believe it. Red card rescinded. The FA do something for Stoke and get something right? Was Greg Dyke off today? Had he enjoyed too many New Years whiskey chasers and was still recovering? I'm very confused right now.
Either way, fantastic news. Geoff has to start tomorrow. Same lineup that fucked up against West Brom but took Man Utd apart.
It's just a shame that Mason, of course, get's off. That said, Mason hasn't been the worst ref this season and all those tearing him a new cornhole are wide of the mark. He's taken charge of a few games involving us this season and was spot on in every one except Saturday.
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Post by skip on Jan 4, 2016 17:57:31 GMT
It's been rescinded?! Bloody hell. Pity the cheat doesn't get a retrospective ban.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 17:57:50 GMT
F This is from a few years ago now, Glenn got studded in the knackers by Vieira, waved his finger and got back up. Maybe it wasn't Pulis all along, maybe we just had honest players? Spot on. If the same thing happened to Glenn now, I'd expect his reaction to be exactly the same. No fuss. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 18:00:28 GMT
Amazed by that news. The FA really are a law unto themselves - nothing suggested that appeal would be successful. Nice to be on the right end of it for a change! Yes I wasn't expecting that, but, keep your hands to yourself in future boys |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 4, 2016 18:02:11 GMT
That's a shock because it was a 'deffo red' and Cameron was 'fucking stupid' . Isn't that right? It was stupid, especially with a knobhead like Yacob there was no need for Geoff to even get involved especially given what had gone before in the season. That said if the ref has seen it again and said he would have changed his decision (which I believe is the procedure) then it just highlights the fact the FA need to clamp down on play acting and introduce a referral system of some sort in game, similar to that of cricket. Like 1 every game. That used to be the system but it isn't anymore. When an appeal is lodged the match ref. is not involved at all in the proceedings. The commission looks at the refs. written report on why the player was dismissed, which is produced after the game for all dismissals; it looks at the submitted written grounds of appeal and, most crucially, at the video evidence which can be from various camera angles, and is watched in slomo as many times as the Commission feels it needs to watch it to reach a decision. The commission first hears from a former ref. who reminds the commission of exactly what the relevant law of the game and the guidance on how to interpret it say, and answers any questions on that from Commission members. Once that is complete, the former ref takes no part in the decision. Despite what is sometimes said on this Board and elsewhere, in my experience it is a fair and thorough procedure. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 4, 2016 18:05:31 GMT
It was stupid, especially with a knobhead like Yacob there was no need for Geoff to even get involved especially given what had gone before in the season. That said if the ref has seen it again and said he would have changed his decision (which I believe is the procedure) then it just highlights the fact the FA need to clamp down on play acting and introduce a referral system of some sort in game, similar to that of cricket. Like 1 every game. That used to be the system but it isn't anymore. When an appeal is lodged the match ref. is not involved at all in the proceedings. The commission looks at the refs. written report on why the player was dismissed, which is produced after the game for all dismissals; it looks at the submitted written grounds of appeal and, most crucially, at the video evidence which can be from various camera angles, and is watched in slomo as many times as the Commission feels it needs to watch it to reach a decision. The commission first hears from a former ref. who reminds the commission of exactly what the relevant law of the game and the guidance on how to interpret it say, and answers any questions on that from Commission members. Once that is complete, the former ref takes no part in the decision. Despite what is sometimes said on this Board and elsewhere, in my experience it is a fair and thorough procedure. Cheers for clearing it up Malcolm. Whatever can be said about the procedure, it's certain that justice was done today.  |
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