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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 3, 2015 7:37:03 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 3, 2015 7:51:10 GMT
Great read thank you very much, wonder if Molina could be the answer to our midfield issue albeit probably too soon, however how old was Fabregas when he made his debut for Arsenal?? 16??
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Post by jaybee on Sept 3, 2015 8:16:51 GMT
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 8:19:16 GMT
Yeah thanks for that Rob. If by any chance you could keep us posted on their progress it would be appreciated. I'd love to see one of the youngster make the bench every week, I really think it would be a good policy. Surely on a seven player bench there's room for one kiddy, give one of the first steamers a weekend off. It would be really good for them to experience being in the squad on a game day, who knows give them some minutes pitch time if the game situation allows. I'm sure it would not only help them but also help us attract more of their ilk and isn't really a massive price to pay in terms of the match day squad.
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Post by foster on Sept 3, 2015 8:39:33 GMT
Thanks Rob, good read. Difficult to keep track on all the recent signings we've made.
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Post by scfcmacca on Sept 3, 2015 8:53:03 GMT
I think it would be a good idea for the fa to introduce a 8 man bench but the 8th man has to be below the age of 20 and has been apart of the academy for atleast 12 months or one season.
This would still give every manager their regular bench but will give the young players more of a chance to develop. I really think it could be a great thing for the future of English football.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 3, 2015 8:55:25 GMT
Yeah thanks for that Rob. If by any chance you could keep us posted on their progress it would be appreciated. I'd love to see one of the youngster make the bench every week, I really think it would be a good policy. Surely on a seven player bench there's room for one kiddy, give one of the first steamers a weekend off. It would be really good for them to experience being in the squad on a game day, who knows give them some minutes pitch time if the game situation allows. I'm sure it would not only help them but also help us attract more of their ilk and isn't really a massive price to pay in terms of the match day squad. I never understand why so many U18 and U21 games are played at the weekend. It means that a place on the bench for a youngster almost certainly means missing their regular game for their junior side. That's not to say that youngsters should not get a chance on the subs bench but I'd have thought it would make more sense for U21 and U18 games to be played mainly on, say, Monday nights. |
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 8:57:25 GMT
I think it would be a good idea for the fa to introduce a 8 man bench but the 8th man has to be below the age of 20 and has been apart of the academy for atleast 12 months or one season. This would still give every manager their regular bench but will give the young players more of a chance to develop. I really think it could be a great thing for the future of English football. Smashing idea, absolutley love it. |
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 9:00:05 GMT
Yeah thanks for that Rob. If by any chance you could keep us posted on their progress it would be appreciated. I'd love to see one of the youngster make the bench every week, I really think it would be a good policy. Surely on a seven player bench there's room for one kiddy, give one of the first steamers a weekend off. It would be really good for them to experience being in the squad on a game day, who knows give them some minutes pitch time if the game situation allows. I'm sure it would not only help them but also help us attract more of their ilk and isn't really a massive price to pay in terms of the match day squad. I never understand why so many U18 and U21 games are played at the weekend. It means that a place on the bench for a youngster almost certainly means missing their regular game for their junior side. That's not to say that youngsters should not get a chance on the subs bench but I'd have thought it would make more sense for U21 and U18 games to be played mainly on, say, Monday nights. That would be great Lakeland and for me if they played their home games more locally too. I'd enjoy being able to nip over to the Brit or CW to watch the youngsters on a weekday evening. |
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Post by nik80 on Sept 3, 2015 9:20:33 GMT
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Post by stokesaint1 on Sept 3, 2015 9:34:07 GMT
Super read and nice to see the future is bright.
The KIDS ARE ALRIGHT, good for MY GENERATION to know this and we could see one or two being used as a SUBSTITUTE real soon. Could have a real PINBALL WIZARD on our hands, which would make me a real HAPPY JACK.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 3, 2015 9:45:46 GMT
Thanks for that.
One of the discussions I had with someone after the match last Saturday, when I mentioned the youngsters invested in, was "Yes but MH is as guilty as TP in not giving young talent a chance, Shenton should have been played against Luton."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 9:51:26 GMT
I think it would be a good idea for the fa to introduce a 8 man bench but the 8th man has to be below the age of 20 and has been apart of the academy for atleast 12 months or one season. This would still give every manager their regular bench but will give the young players more of a chance to develop. I really think it could be a great thing for the future of English football. I would go even further, the Scottish Premier League until a few seasons ago had a rule that 3 of the 7 man bench had to be under 21 (might have been under 23?), I would bring that in to ensure that each team had a pool of youngsters in and around the first team squad to help them develop and hopefully get game time in the first team. |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Sept 3, 2015 9:53:03 GMT
Thanks for that. One of the discussions I had with someone after the match last Saturday, when I mentioned the youngsters invested in, was "Yes but MH is as guilty as TP in not giving young talent a chance, Shenton should have been played against Luton." Totally agree a couple of kids should have been included. Any of them would have put in a better performance than the majority of those that played against Luton. Would have been more interesting, however, when it came to the penalty shoot out. Now that would have been a test for them. |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 3, 2015 10:12:35 GMT
Enjoyed this article a lot. You put some interesting stuff in.
I think there's a whole load of hype over Moha, yet I am far more interested in seeing Molina. He captained every Real Madrid youth team from the age of 9 to 19. He captained their UEFA Youth Team and seems to ooze class. No he doesn't score many goals and doesn't skin many players, but he seems to have fucking bags of potential and at 19, I would love to see him given a chance in a cup game. Look at West Ham, hate them or not, they've just given Reece Oxford a chance at 16 and he had Mesut Ozil's pants down. I'd start him in our next cup game.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 3, 2015 10:22:54 GMT
Super read and nice to see the future is bright. The KIDS ARE ALRIGHT, good for MY GENERATION to know this and we could see one or two being used as a SUBSTITUTE real soon. Could have a real PINBALL WIZARD on our hands, which would make me a real HAPPY JACK. Who ARE you !!??  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 3, 2015 10:37:12 GMT
On the 12th September they're playing at the Brit. Moha might not be there (covering Afellay at Arsenal perhaps?) but the others should be.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Sept 3, 2015 11:16:23 GMT
Super read and nice to see the future is bright. The KIDS ARE ALRIGHT, good for MY GENERATION to know this and we could see one or two being used as a SUBSTITUTE real soon. Could have a real PINBALL WIZARD on our hands, which would make me a real HAPPY JACK. Who ARE you !!?? WHO else? BABA O'RILEY  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 11:36:53 GMT
Dom Telford scored a smashing goal at Wrexham. A real strikers finish. I really hope this lad comes through, despite his size. He took that goal like a proper pro!
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 3, 2015 11:38:34 GMT
I didn't know much about Molina, so it's interesting to read that he's a Whelan style holding midfielder. I wonder if we might see him used in that that role that role at that role at some point this season if anything should happen to Glenn.
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 3, 2015 11:44:15 GMT
Very well written. Thanks.
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 13:05:15 GMT
I think it would be a good idea for the fa to introduce a 8 man bench but the 8th man has to be below the age of 20 and has been apart of the academy for atleast 12 months or one season. This would still give every manager their regular bench but will give the young players more of a chance to develop. I really think it could be a great thing for the future of English football. I would go even further, the Scottish Premier League until a few seasons ago had a rule that 3 of the 7 man bench had to be under 21 (might have been under 23?), I would bring that in to ensure that each team had a pool of youngsters in and around the first team squad to help them develop and hopefully get game time in the first team. These are really good ideas that should be pushed through in English football. In these days of clubs stockpiling senior pro's young players are finding it harder and harder to get a chance, more money will only make the situation worse. Their chances are only going to get less without some form of legislation from the rule makers. Whilst they're at it they need video replays and to sort out this ridiculous off side rule, I'd suggest a return to clear air and if you're off you're off. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 3, 2015 13:10:32 GMT
Good piece on the decent business we've done at under-21 level this summer. We've also added the highly regarded Thibaut Verlinden, a tricky right winger I believe, from Standard Liege to the under-18s recently, another one whose development will be watched with interest.
Whilst much attention has been devoted to "front of house" (copyright The Capped One), these moves could be of great significance for our future, with finally a realistic chance of a few of the Academy boys making the breakthrough to the first team squad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 3, 2015 14:16:55 GMT
The U-21 transfer business has been way better than the senior!  Although it has caused a bit of a jam in the middle of the park and we have no right winger! |
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 3, 2015 14:20:37 GMT
The U-21 transfer business has been way better than the senior! Although it has caused a bit of a jam in the middle of the park and we have no right winger! We do now......Mr. Transfer Request himself!!!  |
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 3, 2015 14:31:07 GMT
I think it would be a good idea for the fa to introduce a 8 man bench but the 8th man has to be below the age of 20 and has been apart of the academy for atleast 12 months or one season. This would still give every manager their regular bench but will give the young players more of a chance to develop. I really think it could be a great thing for the future of English football. Smashing idea, absolutley love it. Ive always thought the 8th sub should be a keeper that can only be used against your keeper should he be injured, regardless of how many previous subs have taken place |
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Post by potterblade on Sept 3, 2015 18:15:36 GMT
Great read. Depth all the way through the first team, the bench, the squad and even the u21s now. Healthy competition and pressure to perform at every level of the playing staff.
This is just what we need. Hopefully the prospect of Molina and Waddington coming through can keep the pressure on anyone looking to fill Nzonzis boots.
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 18:23:12 GMT
Smashing idea, absolutley love it. Ive always thought the 8th sub should be a keeper that can only be used against your keeper should he be injured, regardless of how many previous subs have taken place Trouble with that is it doesn't achieve anything other than adding an additional senior pro to the bench. The keeper sub has some merit but I'd like to see some bench slots for young players only(and I mean young players 23 is too old) if you had 8 bench slots 1 reserved for a keeper who could be used in the case of injury regardless of sub's used in 90 mins game time (ie no penalty specialist on the bench to bring on in the case of a shootout in cup comps and playoffs) 5 free choice sub's and 2 under 21 players I'd be really happy with that. It could be done by rule change but realistically you could have a club policy of one under 21 on the bench every game with no consequences and doing it unilaterally would serve to make the club even more attractive to young players. |
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Post by slother on Sept 3, 2015 18:37:26 GMT
I think it would be a good idea for the fa to introduce a 8 man bench but the 8th man has to be below the age of 20 and has been apart of the academy for atleast 12 months or one season. This would still give every manager their regular bench but will give the young players more of a chance to develop. I really think it could be a great thing for the future of English football. Smashing idea, absolutley love it. Make it academy for 3 years. Otherwise big clubs just get a bigger advantage as they are well capable of buying the best young talent. |
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 18:52:02 GMT
Smashing idea, absolutley love it. Make it academy for 3 years. Otherwise big clubs just get a bigger advantage as they are well capable of buying the best young talent. You've got a point there it wouldn't play into our hands but it would certainly encourage all clubs to develop players, which could only be a good thing. |
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