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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Aug 29, 2015 19:55:42 GMT
Wasn't a sending off in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, Charlie does some terrible challenges but that wasn't one of them.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2015 19:56:19 GMT
I seem to be in the minority, but as much as I love Charlie, I do think Charlie potentially has a little instinctive, secondary 'tread' on him, if not a vicious stamp, after he has got his balance. So ahrd to judge though as you're dealing in split seconds and the lino couldn't wait to rush in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 19:57:06 GMT
Yes I have and I don't think the angle on the video is anything like as clear as it was for the people sitting in block 28 and the linesman. But that's irrelevant to the point I was making about Adam's gesture of friendship BEFORE the officials got involved. I can't see him doing that if he thought HE was the injured party. nobody was the injured party because there wasn't a foul
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Post by heavysoul on Aug 29, 2015 20:01:18 GMT
Forget the sending off of two players if we can play like that with 9 players imagine what we would have done with 11. Is anyone else shocked by the size of Shaqiri? int he small!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 20:05:50 GMT
Yes I have and I don't think the angle on the video is anything like as clear as it was for the people sitting in block 28 and the linesman. But that's irrelevant to the point I was making about Adam's gesture of friendship BEFORE the officials got involved. I can't see him doing that if he thought HE was the injured party. nobody was the injured party because there wasn't a foul It looked to me at the time, that he instinctively put a tread in there that wasn't necessary and then almost instantly thought, fuck why have I done that - I better offer a hand of friendship and try and cover it up. If he didn't think he'd done anything wrong, then he'd either have simply jogged away from the incident or berated the officials for not awarding in favour of him, I would have thought. He KNEW what was coming before the officials had even got there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:11:49 GMT
nobody was the injured party because there wasn't a foul It looked to me at the time, that he instinctively put a tread in there that wasn't necessary and then almost instantly thought, fuck why have I done that - I better offer a hand of friendship and try and cover it up. If he didn't think he'd done anything wrong, then he'd either have simply jogged away from the incident or berated the officials for not awarding in favour of him, I would have thought. He KNEW what was coming before the officials had even got there. Wait till you see it again,is all I'll say for now then. The linesman saw something that wasn't there and needs striking off the list for next weekends games because he couldn't have got it more wrong if he'd tried.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2015 20:16:19 GMT
nobody was the injured party because there wasn't a foul It looked to me at the time, that he instinctively put a tread in there that wasn't necessary and then almost instantly thought, fuck why have I done that - I better offer a hand of friendship and try and cover it up. If he didn't think he'd done anything wrong, then he'd either have simply jogged away from the incident or berated the officials for not awarding in favour of him, I would have thought. He KNEW what was coming before the officials had even got there. Yeah, I definitely think the little instinctive tread right at the end of the tangle is unnecessary - and he knows it. His reaction sadly says it all.
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Post by stokiejoe90 on Aug 29, 2015 20:18:05 GMT
at the end of the day if you compare Charlie Adam with Roy Keane then you only get ONE thug... I go with the latter, can you count how many reckless challenges he put in during is playing career compared to Charlie's? No, but I bet sadly that Charlie will be remembered more for his challenges then his skills unfortunately thanks to fans and the media and the effect Twitter has on players these days, particularly from lower clubs... If Roy Keane played in his prime in this day and age then he'd be in the limelight for his reckless challenges more than Charlie would be.
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Post by stokestan on Aug 29, 2015 20:25:41 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 20:32:02 GMT
That's the best angle so far. Look at the view from behind the goal - Adam is in the air and then BOTH feet land on the GROUND but he then sneakily sticks another 'landing' in with his right foot. He doesn't need to do it - he's already got both feet on the ground PRIOR to this. It's this little 'extra' landing that the lino spotted.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Aug 29, 2015 20:40:05 GMT
I was in row 8 in south stand, near corner flag; directly in line with the incident.
Charlie piled in at speed and got the ball out for a throw. There was a strange coming together of players. Nothing malicious. THEN the lino flagged.
I shouted, "don't you dare say he did a stamp!!", because until the lino flagged, I thought the ref would simply calm things down and let play resume from the throw.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 29, 2015 20:42:57 GMT
I seem to be in the minority, but as much as I love Charlie, I do think Charlie potentially has a little instinctive, secondary 'tread' on him, if not a vicious stamp, after he has got his balance. So ahrd to judge though as you're dealing in split seconds and the lino couldn't wait to rush in. Difficult to judge as you say, a yellow would have sufficed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:47:04 GMT
View Attachment Say what you want about the man but you can't deny his passion in the game. Not a sending off in my opinion. Patting the badge means fuck all, Biggins kissed the badge just before he buggered off to Barnsley
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Post by desman2 on Aug 29, 2015 20:50:13 GMT
When that linesman ran on i thought a full scale riot had erupted. He didnt need to do that and i believe that influenced the ref. None of the players reacted.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 29, 2015 20:50:40 GMT
Let's not pretend, it was a petulant stamp by Charlie, but it was his reputation that got him sent off because he has form. He is a fucking liability, decent footballer but he just gets the red mist too often. In fact I'm more annoyed by Afellay and Charlie now than I was at the game. Fucking dickheads, both of them and the only bonus from today is that neither can be considered for the next three games. Step up Bojan and Arnie!!
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Post by desman2 on Aug 29, 2015 20:51:09 GMT
Forget the sending off of two players if we can play like that with 9 players imagine what we would have done with 11. Is anyone else shocked by the size of Shaqiri? int he small! But built like a bull.
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 29, 2015 20:58:41 GMT
Can we all stop calling it a fucking stamp, at worse he has trodden on the bloke, and in no way should it be a red card
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Post by stokiejoe90 on Aug 29, 2015 21:02:06 GMT
Say what you want about the man but you can't deny his passion in the game. Not a sending off in my opinion. Patting the badge means fuck all, Biggins kissed the badge just before he buggered off to Barnsley I'm standing by adam on this, he's a victim of his past and he has my support cus that's what supporters do for their players, especially players who have made great contribution for goals and assists which I believe Charlie has. This incident has us questioning Charlie's nature because the media has influenced us this way. Yes he's no angel, but by god he is a potter!
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 21:02:56 GMT
Let's not pretend, it was a petulant stamp by Charlie, but it was his reputation that got him sent off because he has form. He is a fucking liability, decent footballer but he just gets the red mist too often. In fact I'm more annoyed by Afellay and Charlie now than I was at the game. Fucking dickheads, both of them and the only bonus from today is that neither can be considered for the next three games. Step up Bojan and Arnie!! He doesn't stamp at all.
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 29, 2015 21:03:16 GMT
That's the best angle so far. Look at the view from behind the goal - Adam is in the air and then BOTH feet land on the GROUND but he then sneakily sticks another 'landing' in with his right foot. He doesn't need to do it - he's already got both feet on the ground PRIOR to this. It's this little 'extra' landing that the lino spotted. have to disagree, ive watched it over and over and all i see is charlie stumbling backwards and trying to regain his balance
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 29, 2015 21:05:29 GMT
Not sure any of our two sending offs warranted a red card!
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Post by stokiejoe90 on Aug 29, 2015 21:07:30 GMT
Ricardo fuller slapped Andy griffin, his own TEAM MATE. Charlie Stepped on a cunt that flying scissor kicked him... These are facts...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 21:12:05 GMT
That's the best angle so far. Look at the view from behind the goal - Adam is in the air and then BOTH feet land on the GROUND but he then sneakily sticks another 'landing' in with his right foot. He doesn't need to do it - he's already got both feet on the ground PRIOR to this. It's this little 'extra' landing that the lino spotted. have to disagree, ive watched it over and over and all i see is charlie stumbling backwards and trying to regain his balance Yeah I think it was clearer sat right in front of it in the ground, I just think this video is a better example of what happened than the other video is. At the time I thought there was intent and that video hasn't changed my mind.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Aug 29, 2015 21:14:30 GMT
Yes his teamate. I often get annoyed with my tea mates when the tea they made is too weak...
Winky
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Aug 29, 2015 21:33:22 GMT
I was in row 8 in south stand, near corner flag; directly in line with the incident. Charlie piled in at speed and got the ball out for a throw. There was a strange coming together of players. Nothing malicious. THEN the lino flagged. I shouted, "don't you dare say he did a stamp!!", because until the lino flagged, I thought the ref would simply calm things down and let play resume from the throw. Sitting in block 28, I see a coming together of legs, no sign of a 'malicious stamp'. If Oliver had any sense he would have booked them both and got on with it. But no, let's ruin the game for 28K supporters, a game we clearly had a good chance of winning even when we were down to 10 men. Anyone see one of our players (was it Afellay?) well and truly barged into the advertising boards before it all kicked off? The officials were appalling today and no doubt it is getting worse.
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Post by stevetheboater on Aug 29, 2015 21:46:51 GMT
When that linesman ran on i thought a full scale riot had erupted. He didnt need to do that and i believe that influenced the ref. None of the players reacted. The reaction of the players is interesting. Dawson's body language wasn't to appeal for a red card but to protest his own innocence (bear in mind that the he had been deliberately and clearly wrapping his legs around Adam.) He evidently thought he was the one about to be penalised. It can't have been much of a "stamp" then.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 29, 2015 21:48:51 GMT
Id agree about today, but I can think or a goog number of other times when he has got away with it. Jon Never a red card in a million fucking years.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 22:41:36 GMT
Nope but it's pretty irrelevant isn't it? It was right by me, I would have sent him off with the view I had at the time looking at it once. And that's the conclusion most of us who sit where I do came to. If it wasn't then it is shit but it wasn't just the linesman who thought Adam was being a twat..... If he wasn't then I apologise but in that one view at the time, I thought he lashed out. Loads of Stoke fans were saying it was a definite red at half time. I thought at the time,that it wasn't but too many people were disagreeing with me so I just assumed it must have been a stamp. The I saw it on a vine,and it was a fucking joke of a decision just like I'd first thought. I've seen it again. The liner got it spot on.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 30, 2015 1:32:04 GMT
Say what you want about the man but you can't deny his passion in the game. Not a sending off in my opinion. ?????? if we had a vote on which player if any would be sent off first then i`m sorry but the vast majority if not all would say Charlie...he is full of Scottish blood ...has anyone seen Naismiths at Spurs tonight ? again Scottish blood To be honest I had Peiters top of my list for a red and giving away a penalty before today. Very silly today from Charlie and cost us but the points he's earned us vastly out way what he's cost us.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 30, 2015 1:43:10 GMT
When that linesman ran on i thought a full scale riot had erupted. He didnt need to do that and i believe that influenced the ref. None of the players reacted. I'm pretty sure the lino saying he trod/stamped on him influenced the ref
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