ruarig
Youth Player
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Post by ruarig on Aug 3, 2015 12:05:34 GMT
Don't disagree in principle. We would definitely have been feeling more comfortable right now if Huth was still here however he wasn't in our team last season due to injury and loan and the season proved to be successful. Maybe Wolly wasn't the best purchase but from a progression perspective was having Huth sitting on our bench/being backup good for either us or him? The decision to get someone younger in wasn't a bad one even if the person we got in turns out to be the wrong person. So we were right to let Huth go and replace him with Wolly even if he is actually not fit enough to lace Huth's boots ? strange logic to me. Haha did you even read my post?
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Post by thestokielad on Aug 3, 2015 12:20:30 GMT
We know. Pretty much everyone has been explaining this in the porto thread
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Post by staybeautiful on Aug 3, 2015 12:23:32 GMT
Yes should have just kept him rotting in the reserves. The guy hardley played in the last 2 years and was well down the pecking order. Even if he was still here now he'd probably only make the bench with Shawcross out.
He was great in the past but it was very clear that he wasn't going to make the team so why are we still harping on about keeping him? Good luck to him at Leicester. I have a feeling he will be kept very busy there this season.
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Post by jarvinski on Aug 3, 2015 12:34:00 GMT
Wollschild is absolutely woeful, why hughes thinks he is a better proposition than huth is beyond me
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 13:41:09 GMT
So we were right to let Huth go and replace him with Wolly even if he is actually not fit enough to lace Huth's boots ? strange logic to me. Haha did you even read my post? Yep.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 13:43:39 GMT
Wollschild is absolutely woeful, why hughes thinks he is a better proposition than huth is beyond me The worst signing since Brek Shea and we are stuck with him, Hughes needs to give his head a wobble, shocking decision.
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Post by Sfance on Aug 3, 2015 13:43:41 GMT
Yeah, yeah, yeah . . . what a waste of keyboard stroke this thread is. At least the transfer threads have some semblance of looking forwards.
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Aug 3, 2015 13:49:20 GMT
Hughes out.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 13:50:16 GMT
Yeah, yeah, yeah . . . what a waste of keyboard stroke this thread is. At least the transfer threads have some semblance of looking forwards. Do you mean looking at forwards, the ones we have no earthly chance of signing.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 3, 2015 13:58:23 GMT
I should never have bought that lottery ticket.. I should never have married my ex-wife FFS
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 3, 2015 14:04:58 GMT
Same old crap from the same OLD people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 14:20:43 GMT
Huth was a great player for us and fitted a style of play we had perfectly. We've moved on now, some players have adjusted some couldn't step up. Huth was one of those casualties. It happens as teams evolve and move forward. Our best two Prem seasons happened when he wasn't in the side, we coped without him then and we'll cope again.
Trust your manager, seems to have got a lot right up to yet.
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Post by ryanbox360 on Aug 3, 2015 14:40:45 GMT
Yawn.
Should we have kept Fuller and Tuncay as well?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 15:07:20 GMT
Yawn. Should we have kept Fuller and Tuncay as well? They could probably make a better job of the CB role than wolfy, then again Red riding hood could do a better job carrying her basket and wearing flippers.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 3, 2015 15:12:07 GMT
Hindsight is always 20/20
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 3, 2015 15:14:54 GMT
Think I will wait and see what the prognosis is on Ryan first and then see how we shape up after the first half dozen games. If it's bad on both counts then yes, you could say it may have been better to keep Huth,but this is what progressing as a club is about....you get some decisions right and some wrong, no one is perfect and for me Hughes has earned my support and so will Wolly whilst he remains a Stoke player.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 3, 2015 15:26:36 GMT
Same old crap from the same OLD people. What do you know? You're just a kiddie.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 3, 2015 15:27:33 GMT
I say we should never have sold greenhoff
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 3, 2015 15:51:17 GMT
In 2013 (second half of 2012/13 season) Robert Huth was part of a defense that had the worst defensive record in recent years for Stoke City. When Hughes arrived Huth was given his chance but was taken out of the side and since then we have seen an improving defensive record, finishing off last season with the 7th meanest defense in the premier league. Huth played 13 times in the last 2 seasons, only once last season in what was Stoke City's best season in the premier league. In the last 3 seasons in the premier league Huth played 48 times for Stoke City, scoring just one goal. Back in the day Robert Huth was a great servant for the club and played a 'big' part in helping Stoke City sustain their premier league status. The Robert Huth we loved and held with such regard in all intense purposes left us at the end of 2012. It says a lot for the great mans impact between 2009-12, that there are people today that think that Robert Huth's departure at the end of the 2014/15 season has in someway weakened Stoke City. Some might say such suggestions are ignorant or disrespectful to the current Stoke City players, who have been part of the squad that have taken the club forwards over the last two seasons. Hopefully over the next 38 games, no such disrespect will be shown to 'our own' the players of Stoke City. Jesus Hates Christ, you've really rubbed salt into the wombs of the pre-Madonnas there!
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 3, 2015 16:21:00 GMT
D'yknow my biggest concern over th whole Huth thing? The fitness of our defenders.
Huth lost his place because he got injured and never fully got that back at Stoke - goes to Leicester and bugger me he doesn't miss a game.
Now we have Shawcross, Muni, Wilson, Pieters - all of whom seem to get regulalarly injured and struggle to get back to full fitness.
Is aomething amiss in the medical team I ask myself.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 16:21:15 GMT
Hindsight is always 20/20 Sorry Harry the evidence was there for all to see prior to selling Huth, he was fit and pretty much outstanding for Leicester, Ryan had an on going back problem, Wolfy was not very good whilst on loan with ourselves in fact Hughes dropped him at the end of the season, Muni we knew is injury prone, Wilson can and has been a liability no hindsight needed in my opinion.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 3, 2015 16:30:33 GMT
Hindsight is always 20/20 Sorry Harry the evidence was there for all to see prior to selling Huth, he was fit and pretty much outstanding for Leicester, Ryan had an on going back problem, Wolfy was not very good whilst on loan with ourselves in fact Hughes dropped him at the end of the season, Muni we knew is injury prone, Wilson can and has been a liability no hindsight needed in my opinion. I'm sure Hughes spelled it out for Him last season hence his loan out , I couldn't see Hughes back tracking or Bob saying ok to it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 16:32:26 GMT
Correct . Why sell a solid defender like Huth and replace him with a bloke who looks like a total mincer when he plays footy
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 16:34:25 GMT
Sorry Harry the evidence was there for all to see prior to selling Huth, he was fit and pretty much outstanding for Leicester, Ryan had an on going back problem, Wolfy was not very good whilst on loan with ourselves in fact Hughes dropped him at the end of the season, Muni we knew is injury prone, Wilson can and has been a liability no hindsight needed in my opinion. I'm sure Hughes spelled it out for Him last season hence his loan out , I couldn't see Hughes back tracking or Bob saying ok to it Very disappointing if true the Manager putting his own ego before the good of our club, I would hope he has more about him than that sounds like the sort of stubborn behaviour associated with a certain WBA manager.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 3, 2015 16:37:20 GMT
Transfer window open for another 4 weeks
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 3, 2015 16:40:55 GMT
I'm sure Hughes spelled it out for Him last season hence his loan out , I couldn't see Hughes back tracking or Bob saying ok to it Very disappointing if true the Manager putting his own ego before the good of our club, I would hope he has more about him than that sounds like the sort of stubborn behaviour associated with a certain WBA manager. Don't think it's ego , if Hughes told the player he isn't in his plans and his future lies elsewhere I don't see any way back from that position and at his age huth would want to secure his future
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 3, 2015 16:46:46 GMT
Hughes clearly saw Wolly as a better option than Huth. Hughes has been pretty impressive with most things he has done since coming to Stoke. But I am afraid he got the Huth/Wolly decision spectacularly wrong
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 16:47:05 GMT
Very disappointing if true the Manager putting his own ego before the good of our club, I would hope he has more about him than that sounds like the sort of stubborn behaviour associated with a certain WBA manager. Don't think it's ego , if Hughes told the player he isn't in his plans and his future lies elsewhere I don't see any way back from that position and at his age huth would want to secure his future Fair enough so it's his judgement that is the problem, if Wolf is a better option than Huth I will eat my socks.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 16:48:25 GMT
Hughes clearly saw Wolly as a better option than Huth. Hughes has been pretty impressive with most things he has done since coming to Stoke. But I am afraid he got the Huth/Wolly decision spectacularly wrong He clearly needs to go to Specsavers then.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 3, 2015 16:49:39 GMT
Don't think it's ego , if Hughes told the player he isn't in his plans and his future lies elsewhere I don't see any way back from that position and at his age huth would want to secure his future Fair enough so it's his judgement that is the problem, if Wolf is a better option than Huth I will eat my socks. Muniesa was Huths replacement , woolly was probably a squad player
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