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Post by mastermind on Jul 10, 2015 19:57:11 GMT
Now we have made such a good job of Gordon Banks statue along with Sir Stanley Mathews podium ,could we now press on and ,move our clubs beloved all time leading scorer to a more prominent place suited to exposing the legend that is John.
Right now he is tucked away against the wall behind the Boothen End and sited next to a rubbish bin,not a good advert for acknowledging a hero,holding a scoring record unlikely to be beaten,especially in today's environment.
Please go and have a look at his bust not even a figure it looks so isolated and pathetic that to think it's the best we can do to recognise the mans contribution to our history is unbelievable and unacceptable ...........anybody of the same mind??
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 10, 2015 20:01:20 GMT
Now we have made such a good job of Gordon Banks statue along with Sir Stanley Mathews podium ,could we now press on and ,move our clubs beloved all time leading scorer to a more prominent place suited to exposing the legend that is John. Right now he is tucked away against the wall behind the Boothen End and sited next to a rubbish bin,not a good advert for acknowledging a hero,holding a scoring record unlikely to be beaten,especially in today's environment. Please go and have a look at his bust not even a figure it looks so isolated and pathetic that to think it's the best we can do to recognise the mans contribution to our history is unbelievable and unacceptable ...........anybody of the same mind?? Definitely. For me all three of our statues are in strange places. I would have liked to have seen them all close together, perhaps create a dedicated area. |
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Post by chad on Jul 10, 2015 20:02:05 GMT
Agree 100%. Probably my all time favourite player. At least move the thing to the main entrance
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 20:02:58 GMT
absolutely gash spot for his statue - a real embarressment - should be out side the main entrace
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 10, 2015 20:08:21 GMT
Good idea.
Would the supporters committee consider approaching the club about a "hall (row) of fame" for all the great Stoke players of the past. Internationals, record holders, League Cup winners, etc. ?
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Post by mastermind on Jul 10, 2015 20:27:14 GMT
Mrcoke........Perhaps the supporters commitee could step forward and take a valid project to the club I am convinced it is deserved and needed and at little cost.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 10, 2015 20:30:53 GMT
Absolutely agree it needs and deserves a better site. Current site is embarassing and disrespectful to a City great.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 10, 2015 20:35:14 GMT
Now we have made such a good job of Gordon Banks statue along with Sir Stanley Mathews podium ,could we now press on and ,move our clubs beloved all time leading scorer to a more prominent place suited to exposing the legend that is John. Right now he is tucked away against the wall behind the Boothen End and sited next to a rubbish bin,not a good advert for acknowledging a hero,holding a scoring record unlikely to be beaten,especially in today's environment. Please go and have a look at his bust not even a figure it looks so isolated and pathetic that to think it's the best we can do to recognise the mans contribution to our history is unbelievable and unacceptable ...........anybody of the same mind?? Most people would agree with this - maybe one for the Supporters Council to follow up? |
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2015 20:35:19 GMT
I quite like it where it is.
No really.
I appreciate I might be on my own with this one.
What about inside the ground?
At the front of the Boothen perhaps,near the goal (off the pitch obviously,he'd be offside too much...)
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Post by njkk on Jul 10, 2015 20:42:05 GMT
I was under the impression that the Ritchie family wanted John's statue placed at the Boothen End ?
I does seem to be tucked away where it is, maybe a more central placement would be more fitting
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:04:24 GMT
I was under the impression that the Ritchie family wanted John's statue placed at the Boothen End ? I does seem to be tucked away where it is, maybe a more central placement would be more fitting Surely the point of any memorial is to honour the person concerned. You don't honour someone by plonking the memorial somewhere completely anonymous and next to a rubbish bin. Even if you like where the statue is placed, and I don't, there should at least be some sort of a white or light coloured backdrop behind it to show it off. None of the statues seem to have been placed with maximum exposure in mind. Almost like the club are not as proud of our greats as the supporters are. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 10, 2015 21:21:23 GMT
Needs moving. Put them all by Stan's statue. One thing that strikes me about John is that he is in the dark. The sun never shines where he is and for God's sake there weren't many days when the sun didn't shine on that lad
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2015 21:25:57 GMT
I was under the impression that the Ritchie family wanted John's statue placed at the Boothen End ? I does seem to be tucked away where it is, maybe a more central placement would be more fitting That isn't what they wanted at all. I can assure you of that. I wrote to the club about this last year. They aren't interested but said they'd move the bin...they didn't. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 10, 2015 21:28:33 GMT
I was under the impression that the Ritchie family wanted John's statue placed at the Boothen End ? I does seem to be tucked away where it is, maybe a more central placement would be more fitting That isn't what they wanted at all. I can assure you of that. I wrote to the club about this last year. They aren't interested but said they'd move the bin...they didn't. Where did they want it Dave? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2015 21:31:54 GMT
That isn't what they wanted at all. I can assure you of that. I wrote to the club about this last year. They aren't interested but said they'd move the bin...they didn't. Where did they want it Dave? The club contributed nothing to the cost of it and the original plan was that it would be positioned centrally behind the reception desk in the west stand entrance. Once finished the club backtracked and it ended up hidden away at the back of the boothen end by the bin. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 10, 2015 21:34:25 GMT
Where did they want it Dave? The club contributed nothing to the cost of it and the original plan was that it would be positioned centrally behind the reception desk in the west stand entrance. Once finished the club backtracked and it ended up hidden away at the back of the boothen end by the bin. Not right then and very easily rectified. |
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Post by jarvinski on Jul 10, 2015 21:36:12 GMT
It doesn't matter if the bin is moved, it is used as a GOAL POST every home match by kids, get the fucking job sorted Stoke, it's embarassing
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2015 21:37:35 GMT
The club contributed nothing to the cost of it and the original plan was that it would be positioned centrally behind the reception desk in the west stand entrance. Once finished the club backtracked and it ended up hidden away at the back of the boothen end by the bin. Not right then and very easily rectified. Club aren't interested mate and its probably fair to say that the Ritchie family have very little affection for stoke city these days...which in itself is very sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:38:42 GMT
Supporters Council need to raise it as it's a disgrace, that's of course if they have time between trying to enforce season ticket hikes on their fellow fans.......
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2015 21:40:07 GMT
Supporters Council need to raise it as it's a disgrace, that's of course if they have time between trying to enforce season ticket hikes on their fellow fans....... I believe they did but could be wrong on that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:42:32 GMT
Maybe they just need to move the bin if they are not looking at a better location. It's not the best place it just needs a bit of thought about what is placed near it.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2015 21:49:16 GMT
Maybe they just need to move the bin if they are not looking at a better location. It's not the best place it just needs a bit of thought about what is placed near it. I raised it 12 months ago and the bin is still there. The response I had said the bin would be moved. It wasn't. I emailed them a month or 2 later and they said supporters moved the bin as reports suggested kids used it as goalposts. Wouldn't you think they would move the bust for that reason alone. 170 odd goals, all scored at the highest level of the game, and few would even know it's there. In 40 years time, when the premier league goes under a different name, do you think Newcastle would not shout about and be proud of Alan shearer's record? That's effectively what we are faced with here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:53:05 GMT
Maybe they just need to move the bin if they are not looking at a better location. It's not the best place it just needs a bit of thought about what is placed near it. I raised it 12 months ago and the bin is still there. The response I had said the bin would be moved. It wasn't. I emailed them a month or 2 later and they said supporters moved the bin as reports suggested kids used it as goalposts. Wouldn't you think they would move the bust for that reason alone. 170 odd goals, all scored at the highest level of the game, and few would even know it's there. In 40 years time, when the premier league goes under a different name, do you think Newcastle would not shout about and be proud of Alan shearer's record? That's effectively what we are faced with here. No dispute there mate and I agree there should be a specific better location for his bust but if it was the family preference for it to be placed there then the club need to sort out the surrounding area and move the bin and secure it elsewhere. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2015 21:58:28 GMT
I raised it 12 months ago and the bin is still there. The response I had said the bin would be moved. It wasn't. I emailed them a month or 2 later and they said supporters moved the bin as reports suggested kids used it as goalposts. Wouldn't you think they would move the bust for that reason alone. 170 odd goals, all scored at the highest level of the game, and few would even know it's there. In 40 years time, when the premier league goes under a different name, do you think Newcastle would not shout about and be proud of Alan shearer's record? That's effectively what we are faced with here. No dispute there mate and I agree there should be a specific better location for his bust but if it was the family preference for it to be placed there then the club need to sort out the surrounding area and move the bin and secure it elsewhere. It absolutely wasn't the families request for it to go there. They raised the money for it themselves, spent more of their own money than they intended on the understanding that it would be in the main reception area of the west stand together with an "honours board" type thing that would glorify john Ritchie's goals record for our club. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 10, 2015 22:14:07 GMT
I love it where it is.
I make a point of taking a long hard look at it immediately before I go in and it gives me a real sense of well being and belonging.
John Ritchie belonged to the Boothen and no one else.
For me the bust is where it belongs.
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Post by enuntio on Jul 11, 2015 0:14:38 GMT
It's in a super position. Behind the Boorhen and handy for those that walk that way.
I'd like to see another next to him
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Post by enuntio on Jul 11, 2015 0:16:00 GMT
hiw much do they cost? Could they not have them all around the ground?
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Post by njkk on Jul 11, 2015 0:49:01 GMT
I was under the impression that the Ritchie family wanted John's statue placed at the Boothen End ? I does seem to be tucked away where it is, maybe a more central placement would be more fitting That isn't what they wanted at all. I can assure you of that. I wrote to the club about this last year. They aren't interested but said they'd move the bin...they didn't. Cheers for the feed back Dave, I'm sure this was the club statement when this question was raised when the statue was positioned. |
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Post by Sfance on Jul 11, 2015 1:23:28 GMT
This is something SCFC could learn from American clubs - in any sport - a Wall of Fame. Periodically added to with considerable fanfare. Really contributes to promoting the club, a not very expensive, feel-good recognition of the team's greats. Really a no-brainer for a club with any marketing sense at all.
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Post by ange1 on Jul 11, 2015 4:12:12 GMT
I appreciate your comments and if you look back over the Council minutes you will see that we have mentioned the positioning of the statue to the club and made suggestions. One point I am not sure that you are aware of is that the club did not pay for any of the statues at the stadium. The Matthews statue was paid for through the efforts of the Matthews Foundation as was Gordon Banks by the efforts of a group of individuals and the family of John Ritchie for the big man.
We will continue to see what we can achieve. I for one feel that these three greats in the history of our club should be remembered along with others in a position where all can be seen. Thanks for your thoughts and ideas
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