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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 16, 2015 20:05:12 GMT
We need to think creatively here we can't make him captain , we can't get him in the French team so we have to leverage the things we can certainty , high wages , long term deal , very high escape clause , image rights , up front signing on fee for new contract and we neecarrily to Do it quickly alongside a willingness to hold firm until January
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 16, 2015 20:06:19 GMT
To be fair we have had this every season , lets see where he is in August and no doubt the club have a plan to replace him if he goes . I agree its a shame because he did just have a great season
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Post by rawli on Jun 16, 2015 20:07:17 GMT
Here can't go. He's one of the few players we've got a song for
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 16, 2015 20:07:24 GMT
We all see things differently but his lack of willingness to run backwards as quickly as he does forward is the one and only thing that I dont like about n'zonzi. He covered the most distance out of all of our players last season No 2 Geoff, No 3 SJW! I do hope that this is not linked to his non appearance at the Presentation evening - he's had a great season and it would be a boost if he stayed to play alongside, Bojan, Diouf ....... Not even 1st July yet so plenty of time to plan for a squad without him if that is the case I didn't say he doesn't cover the ground. I said he isn't quite so quick at running towards his own goal. For me its the only flaw in his game.
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Post by 2004 on Jun 16, 2015 20:12:19 GMT
Oh fuck off Fidele!
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Post by foster on Jun 16, 2015 20:16:30 GMT
Less than 10m and I'd run down his contract..... Unless we have another coming in that can replace him.... A good one. Would not sell before we have a replacement.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 16, 2015 20:18:40 GMT
I must be ITK because I have been predicting this for weeks. It has been obvious. Cattermole will be a fine replacement. Possibly a whelan upgrade mate , but I would like to see a like for like replacement Not even good enough as a Whelan upgrade, to replace N'Zonzi with him would be madness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 20:24:05 GMT
We need to think creatively here we can't make him captain , we can't get him in the French team so we have to leverage the things we can certainty , high wages , long term deal , very high escape clause , image rights , up front signing on fee for new contract and we neecarrily to Do it quickly alongside a willingness to hold firm until January Are you Tazi?
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Post by MilanStokie on Jun 16, 2015 20:45:46 GMT
Shawcross and N'Zonzi are the only indispensable players we have. Losing either this summer would be disastrous and would require a stroke of genius to replace either on a restricted budget.
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Post by jeycov on Jun 16, 2015 20:50:21 GMT
He covered the most distance out of all of our players last season No 2 Geoff, No 3 SJW! I do hope that this is not linked to his non appearance at the Presentation evening - he's had a great season and it would be a boost if he stayed to play alongside, Bojan, Diouf ....... Not even 1st July yet so plenty of time to plan for a squad without him if that is the case I didn't say he doesn't cover the ground. I said he isn't quite so quick at running towards his own goal. For me its the only flaw in his game. Ok I agree with that - I misread the post
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 16, 2015 20:51:54 GMT
Shawcross and N'Zonzi are the only indispensable players we have. Losing either this summer would be disastrous and would require a stroke of genius to replace either on a restricted budget. Early indications are that our budget is less restricted than its been previously.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jun 16, 2015 21:17:24 GMT
Haven't I just seen him on a picture with our new signing at the training ground? Scouts players and travels at the speed of light apparently! He's a bona fide, modern day Superman, haven't you heard? Chief Executive of the year and the best little scout Carto's got. But one that wasn't in Chile scouting? Im no judge but the fact that everything is wrong with your original point appears to water it down a bit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 21:23:09 GMT
If he's looking like going, then go balls-out for someone like Cabaye. It's going to have to be someone high calibre to fill in for N'Zonzi. Christ, it doesn't bear thinking about.
Although we have still got Sidwell. Hmmmm....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 16, 2015 21:23:50 GMT
He's a bona fide, modern day Superman, haven't you heard? Chief Executive of the year and the best little scout Carto's got. But one that wasn't in Chile scouting? Im no judge but the fact that everything is wrong with your original point, it waters it down a bit It was a last desperate plea that the lickspittle, bean counter from Blackburn doesn't in fact scout for us sarcasm!
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Post by philb on Jun 16, 2015 21:34:48 GMT
To be fair I'm not that bothered if he leaves. Yes he's had a good season for us and was rightly player of the season, although no one really stood out as has been mentioned before. He's been pretty average seasons past and it's only this season where he's been more consistent. We've had this contract guff for the last two off seasons and this season looks to be no different. We've offered him a deal and he either signs it or we sell him. No ones bigger than the club itself. £10 million would be a starting figure for me if he wants to join any team that finished in the Top 6 this season but I seriously don't think he's good enough for a regular starting place in a top 4 team myself. This is his first consistent, good season? Either you have a short memory or you're trying to soften the blow of the thought of him leaving. This may have been his best season for us (arguably), but he has been very good since the day we signed him and aside from Shawcross I can't think of any more consistent players than N'zonzi. It would be a huge loss. Well that's your opinion mate but there's been plenty of criticism over the past few seasons from all directions over his attitude and his general at times negative play. And don't get me started on his shooting/finishing (the goal against Liverpool aside) Now before anyone says I don't like him I thought he was excellent this season just gone and if he stays then I'll be more than happy but I'm not convinced he'd be such a huge loss as some are saying especially if he keeps up with this BS every off season. 3 seasons and 3 attempts to leave says a lot about him for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 21:41:49 GMT
This is his first consistent, good season? Either you have a short memory or you're trying to soften the blow of the thought of him leaving. This may have been his best season for us (arguably), but he has been very good since the day we signed him and aside from Shawcross I can't think of any more consistent players than N'zonzi. It would be a huge loss. Well that's your opinion mate but there's been plenty of criticism over the past few seasons from all directions over his attitude and his general at times negative play. And don't get me started on his shooting/finishing (the goal against Liverpool aside) Now before anyone says I don't like him I thought he was excellent this season just gone and if he stays then I'll be more than happy but I'm not convinced he'd be such a huge loss as some are saying especially if he keeps up with this BS every off season. 3 seasons and 3 attempts to leave says a lot about him for me. I agree that this last season, he seems to have stepped it up a notch. I also agree that the attempts to broker a move are tiresome, and imo, disrepectful. If he gets his move, to a Champions League club, and does well, then we were always a stepping stone. If his last season's effort was to try and elevate his status, well he's probably done that, and we've benefitted in the meantime. For those feeling that he perhaps won't be missed - I challenge you to come up with a list of players that are good enough, available and willing to come here, and affordable, and I'll bet the list would fit on the back of a fag packet.
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Post by britvic72 on Jun 16, 2015 21:42:10 GMT
Palacios anyone?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 16, 2015 21:44:40 GMT
This is his first consistent, good season? Either you have a short memory or you're trying to soften the blow of the thought of him leaving. This may have been his best season for us (arguably), but he has been very good since the day we signed him and aside from Shawcross I can't think of any more consistent players than N'zonzi. It would be a huge loss. Well that's your opinion mate but there's been plenty of criticism over the past few seasons from all directions over his attitude and his general at times negative play. And don't get me started on his shooting/finishing (the goal against Liverpool aside) Now before anyone says I don't like him I thought he was excellent this season just gone and if he stays then I'll be more than happy but I'm not convinced he'd be such a huge loss as some are saying especially if he keeps up with this BS every off season. 3 seasons and 3 attempts to leave says a lot about him for me. You don't know what you've got til its gone. N'zonzi has been great since his arrival and he'd be a huge loss. His ability to play in tight spaces has been crucial to our teams development. Replacing him, were he to go, isn't impossible but it would be very difficult and very expensive.
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Post by Beardy200 on Jun 16, 2015 21:44:44 GMT
Less than 10m and I'd run down his contract..... Unless we have another coming in that can replace him.... A good one. Would not sell before we have a replacement. So if we got a loan player in of the same quality to Zonz for one season, you'd be happy for us to pay £10m? I've always been one of his biggest supporters on here and even i think that's mental fozzy :D
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 16, 2015 21:45:02 GMT
I must be ITK because I have been predicting this for weeks. It has been obvious. Cattermole will be a fine replacement. march is predicting Zonz is leaving. A million percent he will now stay.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 16, 2015 22:01:42 GMT
Perhaps the club didn't get him a birthday cake......
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Post by mistergumby on Jun 16, 2015 22:04:20 GMT
We need to think creatively here we can't make him captain , we can't get him in the French team so we have to leverage the things we can certainty , high wages , long term deal , very high escape clause , image rights , up front signing on fee for new contract and we neecarrily to Do it quickly alongside a willingness to hold firm until January Can you please negotiate one of your 'multi-million pound deals' to keep him at Stoke, then?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 22:05:06 GMT
Anything written about Nzonzi by any journalist at the moment is pure bollocks.
If they were close enough to him or the club they wouldnt just be bleating on about his contract.
The fact that they are means they no shit
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Post by daviddunn on Jun 16, 2015 22:11:55 GMT
Cattermole is a major step backwards for us a decent championship player at best believe me the stadium of shite fans woulld be laughing their socks of I know this to be true as most of my mates and family follow them as live only 10 mile from the horrible deluded team
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Post by foster on Jun 16, 2015 22:13:25 GMT
Less than 10m and I'd run down his contract..... Unless we have another coming in that can replace him.... A good one. Would not sell before we have a replacement. So if we got a loan player in of the same quality to Zonz for one season, you'd be happy for us to pay £10m? I've always been one of his biggest supporters on here and even i think that's mental fozzy I wouldn't be happy in any situation. What I mean is that I wouldn't sell him until we have a good replacement signed up. If we do then yes, he can go if he refuses to extend his contract. I'm a big fan of his by the way.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 16, 2015 22:17:09 GMT
I do think we're making this out to be worse than it actually is. N'zonzi is a fantastic player and we should definitely be trying to keep hold of him, but he's definitely not irreplaceable. If he didn't put in that performance in the Liverpool game I doubt there would be so much worry about him now. Like a previous poster said, 3 seasons he has tried to leave us, I won't lose sleep if he does decide to leave.
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Post by Beardy200 on Jun 16, 2015 22:25:01 GMT
So if we got a loan player in of the same quality to Zonz for one season, you'd be happy for us to pay £10m? I've always been one of his biggest supporters on here and even i think that's mental fozzy :D I wouldn't be happy in any situation. What I mean is that I wouldn't sell him until we have a good replacement signed up. If we do then yes, he can go if he refuses to extend his contract. I'm a big fan of his by the way. Sorry mate, i didn't weight the 'replacement' part of your post highly enough. ;) If he does end up going i'll be gutted as he's the main player we have that i love to see play. When he's on his game he makes it all look incredibly easy and with him adding a big smile to his face it's a joy to watch. Hopefully something gives and he signs again but i'm getting worried.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 22:54:28 GMT
I've never liked NZonzis's attitude . Always thought he was arrogant and potentially disruptive to be hones . A great player on his day though...
We should simply move on and place £15 million price ttag on his head
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Post by Gods on Jun 16, 2015 23:17:54 GMT
Not sure I'd ever stop missing the Zonz, just learn to live with the huge gaping hole of his absence
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Post by whereami on Jun 16, 2015 23:28:23 GMT
I don't doubt his dad is aiming for a big payday, as per every other fucking season, but the big sulky git actually looked content on the pitch for us in the last few games. I don't doubt Nzonz will move when he thinks the time is right, but I actually believe what he said to the Sentinel in that unless a Champions League club comes knocking, he can play his best football with us. Its standard from his dad, we should be used to this after the last few seasons.
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