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Post by Robo10 on Mar 2, 2015 16:16:41 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31683163Right decision with Brown, not sure how OShea has got away with it! However if I was Hull I would welcome it as they are both available to play against them, and lets face it, they are crap.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 2, 2015 16:23:05 GMT
Its a fair call by the FA over an incident caused merely by the referees ineptitude. Indeed Hull should be grateful that the 'Laurel and Hardy' CB combo of Brown and O'Shea are playing. How these 2 are still first choice for Poyet is hard to fathom.
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Post by 2004 on Mar 2, 2015 16:28:37 GMT
Not surprising really. Hopefully that's the last we see of Roger East as a ref in the prem.
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Post by Maccca100 on Mar 2, 2015 16:31:21 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31683163Right decision with Brown, not sure how OShea has got away with it! However if I was Hull I would welcome it as they are both available to play against them, and lets face it, they are crap. Oshea has got away with it as the ref has already seen the incident and acted on it. |
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 2, 2015 16:34:35 GMT
East has made a right balls up of the whole affair...but I'm sure the refs organisation will tell us that he got "all the decisions right" and that today's refs are the best we have ever had!  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 2, 2015 16:36:20 GMT
Same happened during the Gibbs/Oxlade-Chamberlain incident.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 2, 2015 16:40:52 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31683163Right decision with Brown, not sure how OShea has got away with it! However if I was Hull I would welcome it as they are both available to play against them, and lets face it, they are crap. The ref fucked up By back tracking and said I saw a foul by oshea AND brown, and devising to punish brown let the FA with no choice but to let oshea off. Refs are cunts. In cricket it's water off a ducks back for tv to show umpires errors. They just move on to the next delivery. If only our refs were not so precious |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Mar 2, 2015 17:01:26 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31683163Right decision with Brown, not sure how OShea has got away with it! However if I was Hull I would welcome it as they are both available to play against them, and lets face it, they are crap. The ref fucked up By back tracking and said I saw a foul by oshea AND brown, and devising to punish brown let the FA with no choice but to let oshea off. Refs are cunts. In cricket it's water off a ducks back for tv to show umpires errors. They just move on to the next delivery. If only our refs were not so precious No surprise there Salop, they're all Shite. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 2, 2015 17:14:51 GMT
Same happened during the Gibbs/Oxlade-Chamberlain incident. It was transferred to Oxlade-Chamberlain but then Arsenal argued that it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity because it wasn't wide and the Panel rescinded it. Maybe Sunderland suggested because it was Falcao it wasn't a goalscoring chance? |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 2, 2015 17:15:08 GMT
Same happened during the Gibbs/Oxlade-Chamberlain incident. Exactly! The F.A. have set an appalling precedent that a team deserving of a red card can escape scot free! Won't be long before teams ask for a 3 match violent ban to be downgraded to two matches! |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 2, 2015 19:34:19 GMT
Not surprising really. Hopefully that's the last we see of Roger East as a ref in the prem. You just know we will get him in a few weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 20:08:13 GMT
Joke! One of them should be punished. Bet they're laughing their bloody heads off. Farcical! Premier league run by buffoons!
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 2, 2015 20:39:54 GMT
Same happened during the Gibbs/Oxlade-Chamberlain incident. Exactly! The F.A. have set an appalling precedent that a team deserving of a red card can escape scot free! Won't be long before teams ask for a 3 match violent ban to be downgraded to two matches! True but it will depend on who is appealing. ManU yes OK, Stoke - no chance. |
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Post by salopstick on Mar 2, 2015 20:41:28 GMT
Exactly! The F.A. have set an appalling precedent that a team deserving of a red card can escape scot free! Won't be long before teams ask for a 3 match violent ban to be downgraded to two matches! True but it will depend on who is appealing. ManU yes OK, Stoke - no chance. Matic |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 2, 2015 20:42:30 GMT
I can only see that the outcome of this decision is that players will now collude and try and trick referees into sending off the wrong man.
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 2, 2015 21:13:45 GMT
As it was Fallcow, an obvious cheating toerag, the FA have laughed the whole thing off.
Shame Fallcow didn't get a red for rolling around on the floor as usual.
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Post by cityhullstan on Mar 2, 2015 21:53:22 GMT
Its a fair call by the FA over an incident caused merely by the referees ineptitude. Indeed Hull should be grateful that the 'Laurel and Hardy' CB combo of Brown and O'Shea are playing. How these 2 are still first choice for Poyet is hard to fathom. Make on difference if they play as Bruce will play no forwards and stick 10 men behind the ball |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 2, 2015 22:06:07 GMT
There was no other decision the panel could have taken. Sunderland didn't appeal it on grounds of mistaken identity. All the panel could look at was whether Brown's red card was correct, and they decided it wasn't. The referee himself said that there was no issue of mistaken identity and that he saw what both players did, and gave it for the second foul by Brown as he saw it. The ref. got that wrong and O'Shea has been lucky IMHO that he didn't give the first foul and a red. Sunderland suffered the right penalty in the game itself by being down to 10, but have benefited by having O'Shea available for one game which he probably shouldn't have been. Not the biggest deal in the world.
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Post by reddipotter on Mar 2, 2015 22:15:47 GMT
There was no other decision the panel could have taken. Sunderland didn't appeal it on grounds of mistaken identity. All the panel could look at was whether Brown's red card was correct, and they decided it wasn't. The referee himself said that there was no issue of mistaken identity and that he saw what both players did, and gave it for the second foul by Brown as he saw it. The ref. got that wrong and O'Shea has been lucky IMHO that he didn't give the first foul and a red. Sunderland suffered the right penalty in the game itself by being down to 10, but have benefited by having O'Shea available for one game which he probably shouldn't have been. Not the biggest deal in the world. That is strictly all true, but at the end of the day football looks stupid, as it will continue to do until video replays are used. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 22:48:36 GMT
Do not agree Malcolm. Justice has not been done at all. One of these players should be on a ban! Now neither of them are.
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Post by tuum on Mar 3, 2015 2:18:56 GMT
Do not agree Malcolm. Justice has not been done at all. One of these players should be on a ban! Now neither of them are. This should have been the correct solution. O'Shea should have been banned retrospectively. Do you think the FA would have made the same decision if the offence was serious violent conduct (a headbutt or a punch that connected)? Either way, their decision is not fair and they need to change their rules. |
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Post by huuuuuth on Mar 3, 2015 8:06:38 GMT
Video should come into play immediately. Refereeing standards seem to be at an all time low, the game is quicker, and they need help. Instant decisions could be made from the stands and immediately radioed down to the incompetant twat on the pitch ref  |
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 3, 2015 9:12:17 GMT
There was no other decision the panel could have taken. Sunderland didn't appeal it on grounds of mistaken identity. All the panel could look at was whether Brown's red card was correct, and they decided it wasn't. The referee himself said that there was no issue of mistaken identity and that he saw what both players did, and gave it for the second foul by Brown as he saw it. The ref. got that wrong and O'Shea has been lucky IMHO that he didn't give the first foul and a red. Sunderland suffered the right penalty in the game itself by being down to 10, but have benefited by having O'Shea available for one game which he probably shouldn't have been. Not the biggest deal in the world. Not the biggest deal in the world? Try telling that to one of Sunderlands relegation rivals. It's a bollocks decision due to a technicality and it means Sunderland and O'Shea go unpunished. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 3, 2015 18:00:27 GMT
Do not agree Malcolm. Justice has not been done at all. One of these players should be on a ban! Now neither of them are. I completely agree Robo that justice hasn't been done, in the sense that O'Shea has got away with one, and should have had a 1-match ban. But there is really no difference between that and every other instance of a player committing a foul and denying a goalscoring opportunity in a game and the referee doesn't give a foul. Unless we want to go down the road of post match analysis and re-refereeing every decision, it's going to happen sometimes. In fact in this match, because of the way the ref called it, Sunderland got more punishment ( i.e going down to 10) than is the case where the ref. just misses a foul. Arguably Ireland and/or Figeroa should have got red cards on Saturday but didn't. |
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