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Post by ukcstokie on Feb 11, 2015 21:59:53 GMT
Couldn't make it tonight..and the stream wasn't brilliant, but here goes:
Bego 7 Cameron 5 Wollscheid 6 Muni 6 Bardsley 6 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 7 Diouf 6 Crouch 7 Arnie 7 Moses 8 (MoM)
Adam 6 Sidwell 6 Shenton 8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 22:01:32 GMT
Nzonzi motm for me
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Post by stokemanusa on Feb 11, 2015 22:07:09 GMT
Bego 7 Cameron 5.5 (Was good until the peno, tackle first!) Wollschied 6 Pretty average Muniesa 6 Average Bardsley 5 Backed off too much Whelan 5 Just bad bad day Nzonzi 7 Vision, went forward and passed well MOTM Diouf 6 Touch of a donkey but gets in right places Crouch 7 Our main threat, great header Arnie 7 that cross was amazing Moses 7.5 Ran his socks off and was dribbling past zabaleta with ease
Adam 6 did his job and looked to go forward with passing. Sidwell 6 good in his short cameo need to start against blackburn Shenton 10 needs more game time in CM next to Nzonzi.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 11, 2015 22:14:35 GMT
Bego 7- Couldn't do anything with any of the goals really Cameron- 5- Wasn't a penalty in my opinion, but was just naive throughout the night. Wolly-5- Caught out for the second, guilty of backing off for the fourth. Muni- 5- See Wollscheid Bardsley-5- Caught out several times, got turned inside out for the second. Whelan - 4- Worst game in a long long time, think it was a one off though Zonz- 7 (MOTM)- Direct, strong and powerful, good performance Arnie- 6- What a ball in for the goal, but got a little ragged. Moses- 6- Lots of nice flicks and dragbacks, but still lacking the killer edge. Diouf- 6- Tried hard, worked hard, got little reward. Crouch- 7- Took his goal well, unlucky to not have another.
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Post by haddock on Feb 11, 2015 22:18:44 GMT
Bego 7 - made a couple of excellent stops which kept the scoreline from being even worse. Could do nothing about the goals Cameron 5 - usually looked very good on the ball but obviously loses points for the stupid penalty - that ball should have been booted out for a corner. Bardsley 5 - never convincing. Stood off his man too much. Munesia 5 - at times brillaint coming forward. Sometimes brilliant defensively too. But he lost out to Aguero for the first and stood off Nasri for the fourth. Wollschied 5 - another who didn't have the best day, although again he had some great moments. Our offside trap was beaten so many times. Nzonzi 6 - like many, faded after a great start. He is definitely one to keep and build around though (along with Bego, Shawcross and Bojan). Whelan 5 - at fault for the Nasri goal. Just generally seemed off the pace. Arnie 6 - again, great first half but just such a frustrating second half. Moses 7 - brilliant opening, again faded. He sometimes loses it but is always willing to have a go. Diouf 5 - didn't contribute enough for me. Perhaps better wide after all. Walters was a big miss tonight. Crouch 6 - brilliant opening, faded second half.
Bench - how thin that looked tonight...
We need to get some bodies back for Blackburn. Could have been so different if things had fallen for us in that first half period when we were on fire. Still, move on. The cup now seems quite important...
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 11, 2015 22:22:50 GMT
Begovic 6
Cameron 6 Wolly 7 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6
Whelan 5 Nzonzi 6
Arni 8 Moses 7
Crouch 7
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 11, 2015 22:26:40 GMT
According to some on here it wasn't neglect that we didn't strengthen certain areas during the window.
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Post by 2004 on Feb 11, 2015 22:27:35 GMT
Begovic 7 Cameron 4 Wollscheid 5 Muniesa 5 Bardsley 4 Arnie 6 Whelan 2 Nzonzi 7 Moses 7 Diouf 6 Crouch 6
Sidwell 7 Adam 6 Shenton 10
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Post by timbo1988 on Feb 11, 2015 23:10:42 GMT
Begovic 6 Cameron 6 Wolly 7 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 6 Arni 8 Moses 7 Crouch 7 Anyone would think we have won with these ratings! Centre halves 7?
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Post by timbo1988 on Feb 11, 2015 23:11:47 GMT
Begovic 7 Bardsley 5 Cameron 3 Wollscheid 3 Muniesa 4 Moses 7 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 7 Arnie 6 Crouch 7 Diouf 6
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Post by jaybee on Feb 11, 2015 23:24:39 GMT
Begovic 7 Cameron 6 Wollscheid 5 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6 Arnie 7 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 7 Moses 7 Diouf 5 Crouch 7
Sidwell 6 Adam 6
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Post by flinteastwood on Feb 11, 2015 23:47:58 GMT
bego 7 Cameron 6 wolly 6 muni 7 bards 6 glen 7 fonzi 8 arnie 7 moses 7 diouf 7 crouch 7
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Post by ashleyscfc on Feb 11, 2015 23:54:18 GMT
Bego 7 Cameron 5 Wollscheid 6 Muni 6 Bardsley 5 Whelan 3 Nzonzi 8 Diouf 6 Crouch 7 Arnie 7 Moses 7
Adam 6 Sidwell 7 Shenton 10
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 11, 2015 23:56:06 GMT
Begovic 7 Cameron 4 Wollscheid 5 Muniesa 5 Bardsley 4 Arnie 6 Whelan 2 Nzonzi 7 Moses 7 Diouf 6 Crouch 6 Sidwell 7 Adam 6 Shenton 10 Good call on the lad Shenton!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 11, 2015 23:57:09 GMT
There's some very kind ratings on here
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 11, 2015 23:57:35 GMT
Yup.... zonz for me too, almost had to carry Whelan!!!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 11, 2015 23:59:52 GMT
Begovic 6 Cameron 6 Wolly 7 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 6 Arni 8 Moses 7 Crouch 7 Arnie 8????????????????????? Really?????????????????????? He did one good thing!!!
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 12, 2015 7:42:32 GMT
Begovic 6 Cameron 6 Wolly 7 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 6 Arni 8 Moses 7 Crouch 7 Anyone would think we have won with these ratings! Centre halves 7? Just because we lost it doesn't mean we played poor, centre half didn't do to bad against very good opposition
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Post by timbo1988 on Feb 12, 2015 9:42:08 GMT
Anyone would think we have won with these ratings! Centre halves 7? Just because we lost it doesn't mean we played poor, centre half didn't do to bad against very good opposition We conceded 4 which could have been 6 or 7 had Bego not been there! Positionally the CBs were awful!
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2015 11:26:04 GMT
Begovic - 7 Cameron - 5 Wolly - 6 Muni - 6 Bardsley - 5 Whelan - 4 N'Zonzi 5 Arnie - 8 Moses - 7 Diouf - 7 Crouch - 7
Shenton - 20
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 11:40:50 GMT
given how bad in general our passing was last night (even simple balls were constantly being given away or to players who were already closed down) i'm really struggling to see how some of these ratings have been given!!!
yes people worked hard but that in itself doesn't mean for a second they were effective! 2 entirely different things and i think a lot are getting confused between the 2!
Moses got past Zabaletta a couple of times but mostly ended up on his arse flailing his arms at the ref in the vain attempt of getting free kicks he didn't deserve and his final ball invariably ended up not beating the first man. N'Zonzi worked hard but his passing was awful, Whelan was anonymous and apart from the cross for the goal i barely noticed Arnie was even playing!
bizarre ratings by many on here....opinions though i suppose. personally i thought it was a bad day at the office for all concerned really. as we pointed out about teams like Swansea in the past, working hard and having lots of the ball means the square root of fuck all if you don't do anything with it and after the goal i couldn't have seen us even creating a chance if we'd played another 90 minutes.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 12, 2015 11:50:13 GMT
I wonder what the ratings would be for each 1st and 2nd halves of the match. I know this is academic as it's the end result that counts, but I guess they would be a lot better at half-time.
Whelan has had a lot of stick for his passing, quite rightly, but I would temper that by pointing out it's a team game and you need to have someone to pass to. Clearly he was missing Bojan, Ireland, Walters looking for space. This problem didn't bother N'Zonzi which shows his extra class.
Another silver lining from the match, apart from Ollie get his adrenalin rush, was Wollscheid will have climbed a steep learning curve last night, which will do him no end of good. It was a "welcome to the Prem." match for him as well as Ollie. He was probably thinking he was getting used to playing in the Prem. before last night!
Begovic 7.5
Cameron 5 Wollscheid 6 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6
Arnie 7 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 8(MoM he looks so comfortable with the ball when everyone else is in a frenzy.) Moses 7.5
Diouf 6.5 Crouch 7
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 12, 2015 11:58:13 GMT
Yup.... zonz for me too, almost had to carry Whelan!!! He actually let Whelan flounder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 12:12:41 GMT
Just because we lost it doesn't mean we played poor, centre half didn't do to bad against very good opposition We conceded 4 which could have been 6 or 7 had Bego not been there! Positionally the CBs were awful! i think the Milner goal pretty much sums that up mate. flounces straight through the middle of the penalty box with no-one even close to him. Man City are a great team when they're on their game so not expecting us to keep them out completely and if they get past our centre backs through guile, skill, trickery then fair enough you just have to give credit where it's due but basic positioning (or lack of it) just isn't excusable.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 12, 2015 12:22:40 GMT
Begovic 6 Cameron 6 Wolly 7 Muniesa 7 Bardsley 6 Whelan 5 Nzonzi 6 Arni 8 Moses 7 Crouch 7 I can get these as ratings for the first half performance - interested to see how you rated the second half.
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