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Post by sheriff on Jan 24, 2015 21:42:05 GMT
You're just speaking as a Stoke fan. Lallana was amazing last season and he made just about every team of the year list by anyone, alog with Hazard and Yaya in midfield. Coutinho is an inferior scorer but he's more creative than Bojan and a bigger all-round menace with his dribbles and change of pace and intricate link-up. I don't know how you measure "football ability" but Sterling is easily better than Bojan. The only attacking mids better than Sterling in the PL are Silva, Alexis and Hazard. You could add Cesc too, but he plays central midfield these days. Bojan certainly isn't better than Sterling, ffs. when you described coutinho there, you described bojan perfectly. Except bojan scores more. As you said. Sterling "easily better"? Give me a break. Technically, bojan is massively ahead of sterling. The only thing sterling has on him is extra pace, but bojan has the feet and balance to deal with that. A butterfly with a slight cough blows sterling over. By "technically", you mean he looks more elegant, rather than actual execution. Sterling runs funny, so he doesn't look like a ballerina. But for sure, Sterling scares me a lot more than Bojan would. You say "extra pace" as if it's not a massive advantage. Extra pace is the reason Liverpool mauled Arsenal 5-1 last season. While our technical midgets were tapping it around in midfield while Sterling, Sturridge and Coutinho were running riot. Pace kills. Technique is great, but it's often overhyped in football compared to physical qualities.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 21:45:53 GMT
when you described coutinho there, you described bojan perfectly. Except bojan scores more. As you said. Sterling "easily better"? Give me a break. Technically, bojan is massively ahead of sterling. The only thing sterling has on him is extra pace, but bojan has the feet and balance to deal with that. A butterfly with a slight cough blows sterling over. By "technically", you mean he looks more elegant, rather than actual execution. Sterling runs funny, so he doesn't look like a ballerina. But for sure, Sterling scares me a lot more than Bojan would. You say "extra pace" as if it's not a massive advantage. Extra pace is the reason Liverpool mauled Arsenal 5-1 last season. While our technical midgets were tapping it around in midfield while Sterling, Sturridge and Coutinho were running riot. Pace kills. Technique is great, but it's often overhyped in football compared to physical qualities. Bojan was the main reason we were mauling Arsenal 4-0 until the bent officials had their say.
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Post by coates on Jan 24, 2015 21:46:16 GMT
when you described coutinho there, you described bojan perfectly. Except bojan scores more. As you said. Sterling "easily better"? Give me a break. Technically, bojan is massively ahead of sterling. The only thing sterling has on him is extra pace, but bojan has the feet and balance to deal with that. A butterfly with a slight cough blows sterling over. By "technically", you mean he looks more elegant, rather than actual execution. Sterling runs funny, so he doesn't look like a ballerina. But for sure, Sterling scares me a lot more than Bojan would. You say "extra pace" as if it's not a massive advantage. Extra pace is the reason Liverpool mauled Arsenal 5-1 last season. While our technical midgets were tapping it around in midfield while Sterling, Sturridge and Coutinho were running riot. Pace kills. Technique is great, but it's often overhyped in football compared to physical qualities. How long has bojan been in the premier league and is already playing with swagger. He oozes natural Ability all he needed was his confidence back, sterling relies on pace to dictate games.
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Post by GarySCFC on Jan 24, 2015 21:49:57 GMT
I had this discussion with Callas12 the other day. Couthino or bojan? Bojan much the better player to me. By a mile.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 21:53:20 GMT
By "technically", you mean he looks more elegant, rather than actual execution. Sterling runs funny, so he doesn't look like a ballerina. But for sure, Sterling scares me a lot more than Bojan would. You say "extra pace" as if it's not a massive advantage. Extra pace is the reason Liverpool mauled Arsenal 5-1 last season. While our technical midgets were tapping it around in midfield while Sterling, Sturridge and Coutinho were running riot. Pace kills. Technique is great, but it's often overhyped in football compared to physical qualities. Bojan was the main reason we were mauling Arsenal 4-0 until the bent officials had their say. That's a good arguing stance here. He has two options, try to retort and look a twat, or walk away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 21:56:36 GMT
Bojan was the main reason we were mauling Arsenal 4-0 until the bent officials had their say. That's a good arguing stance here. He has two options, try to retort and look a twat, or walk away. At least he didn't mention Adam twatting Lallana in that last post
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Post by sheriff on Jan 24, 2015 22:05:12 GMT
By "technically", you mean he looks more elegant, rather than actual execution. Sterling runs funny, so he doesn't look like a ballerina. But for sure, Sterling scares me a lot more than Bojan would. You say "extra pace" as if it's not a massive advantage. Extra pace is the reason Liverpool mauled Arsenal 5-1 last season. While our technical midgets were tapping it around in midfield while Sterling, Sturridge and Coutinho were running riot. Pace kills. Technique is great, but it's often overhyped in football compared to physical qualities. Bojan was the main reason we were mauling Arsenal 4-0 until the bent officials had their say. Not really the main reason at all. Comical defending and a good team performance from Stoke were the main reasons. Hardly the same as Sterling and Coutinho who genuinely repeatedly ripped us to shreds. There's no point really. I'm on the Stoke board afterall and I don't expect you'll argue differently. I read an article here the other day with people claiming he's better than Silva. David Silva! In recent years, you've clearly not had many people of Bojan's technical class in your club, so quite a lot of you have gone well overboard with the hype.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 22:08:29 GMT
Bojan was the main reason we were mauling Arsenal 4-0 until the bent officials had their say. Not really the main reason at all. Comical defending and a good team performance from Stoke were the main reasons. Hardly the same as Sterling and Coutinho who genuinely repeatedly ripped us to shreds. There's no point really. I'm on the Stoke board afterall and I don't expect you'll argue differently. I read an article here the other day with people claiming he's better than Silva. David Silva! In recent years, you've clearly not had many people of Bojan's technical class in your club, so quite a lot of you have gone well overboard with the hype. You're confusing me now. Who do you actually support? Edit: For the record,I wasn't the one solitary lunatic who was claiming Bojan was better than Silva,in fact I was one of the people berating him for that opinion.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jan 24, 2015 22:09:11 GMT
Bojan was the main reason we were mauling Arsenal 4-0 until the bent officials had their say. Not really the main reason at all. Comical defending and a good team performance from Stoke were the main reasons. Hardly the same as Sterling and Coutinho who genuinely repeatedly ripped us to shreds. There's no point really. I'm on the Stoke board afterall and I don't expect you'll argue differently. I read an article here the other day with people claiming he's better than Silva. David Silva! In recent years, you've clearly not had many people of Bojan's technical class in your club, so quite a lot of you have gone well overboard with the hype. So your a gooner? If so hear endeth the arguement!
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Post by sheriff on Jan 24, 2015 22:11:21 GMT
Still can't believe anyone would rate Bojan above Sterling, tbh. Coutinho might be comparable, and I rate him the better footballer with the more menacing threat than Bojan, but Sterling is miles ahead. Sure, his finishing is still far from the finished article, but he creates a lot more. And his dribbling is fantastic. Only Hazard executes more dribbles and only Hazard creates more from open play. And he runs his socks off and wins his share of duels and tackles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 22:13:41 GMT
Still can't believe anyone would rate Bojan above Sterling, tbh. Coutinho might be comparable, and I rate him the better footballer with the more menacing threat than Bojan, but Sterling is miles ahead. Sure, his finishing is still far from the finished article, but he creates a lot more. And his dribbling is fantastic. Only Hazard executes more dribbles and only Hazard creates more from open play. And he runs his socks off and wins his share of duels and tackles. "Executes more dribbles" "Wins his share of duels" Who the fuck are you and where did you learn to talk about our beautiful game like that?
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Post by butlerstbob on Jan 24, 2015 22:16:17 GMT
He's a gooner dunner pick on him! Bless these foreign supporters!!
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 24, 2015 22:21:59 GMT
Still can't believe anyone would rate Bojan above Sterling, tbh. Coutinho might be comparable, and I rate him the better footballer with the more menacing threat than Bojan, but Sterling is miles ahead. Sure, his finishing is still far from the finished article, but he creates a lot more. And his dribbling is fantastic. Only Hazard executes more dribbles and only Hazard creates more from open play. And he runs his socks off and wins his share of duels and tackles. Utter shite
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Post by RAF on Jan 24, 2015 22:22:06 GMT
Still can't believe anyone would rate Bojan above Sterling, tbh. Coutinho might be comparable, and I rate him the better footballer with the more menacing threat than Bojan, but Sterling is miles ahead. Sure, his finishing is still far from the finished article, but he creates a lot more. And his dribbling is fantastic. Only Hazard executes more dribbles and only Hazard creates more from open play. And he runs his socks off and wins his share of duels and tackles. Don't talk shit! Sterling is a serial bottler in tackles and it's quite clear you have never watched him closely. He's a fucking diving coward with pace. H
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Post by 2004 on Jan 24, 2015 22:22:24 GMT
Why hasn't this troll Arse fan been banned yet?
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Post by jarvinski on Jan 24, 2015 22:22:39 GMT
Oy scouse shit! Bojan will never take a backward move, you're WANK
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2015 22:27:12 GMT
Why hasn't this troll Arse fan been banned yet? Because he is Nigerian and he may have the lottery money we have all won
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Post by sheriff on Jan 24, 2015 22:28:19 GMT
Still can't believe anyone would rate Bojan above Sterling, tbh. Coutinho might be comparable, and I rate him the better footballer with the more menacing threat than Bojan, but Sterling is miles ahead. Sure, his finishing is still far from the finished article, but he creates a lot more. And his dribbling is fantastic. Only Hazard executes more dribbles and only Hazard creates more from open play. And he runs his socks off and wins his share of duels and tackles. "Executes more dribbles" "Wins his share of duels" Who the fuck are you and where did you learn to talk about our beautiful game like that? What? For pointing out Sterling performs better on the D, transitions quicker and more efficiently to the opposition end zone and has greater variation on the offense?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 24, 2015 22:28:58 GMT
It's very likely he could warm their bench. Borini looked immense at Sunderland but can't get minutes for them. Moses who looks good in Stoke looked a fish out of water for them. Lovren who looked one of the top defenders in the English game at Southampton looks hopeless for them. Lallana was the leader and everything went through him at Southampton (a cracking, high intensity attacking side last season), but he's well overshadowed by Sterling and Coutinho. Downing was a cracking player at Aston Villa and is currently immense at West Ham, but was completely out of his depth at Liverpool. The mentality playing at a team like Stoke and at a higher level like Liverpool is very different - all due respect to you. Besides. Who would he bench? He can't lead their line upfront when Sturridge is fit. And as for supporting forwards, Sterling, Coutinho and Lallana are better players. All a matter of opinion though. All due respect to you but fuck off.
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Post by sheriff on Jan 24, 2015 22:33:15 GMT
Still can't believe anyone would rate Bojan above Sterling, tbh. Coutinho might be comparable, and I rate him the better footballer with the more menacing threat than Bojan, but Sterling is miles ahead. Sure, his finishing is still far from the finished article, but he creates a lot more. And his dribbling is fantastic. Only Hazard executes more dribbles and only Hazard creates more from open play. And he runs his socks off and wins his share of duels and tackles. Don't talk shit! Sterling is a serial bottler in tackles and it's quite clear you have never watched him closely. He's a fucking diving coward with pace. H Really? All I see is a hard-working player who isn't afraid to get on the ball and take on all-comers. Care to point out this "bottling" of his? Diving wouldn't make him a coward. Maradonna could take a savage kicking in games, but would dive when it suits him. Drogba can be an absolute battering ram and dive when it suits him.
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Post by 2004 on Jan 24, 2015 22:34:59 GMT
"Executes more dribbles" "Wins his share of duels" Who the fuck are you and where did you learn to talk about our beautiful game like that? What? For pointing out Sterling performs better on the D, transitions quicker and more efficiently to the opposition end zone and has greater variation on the offense? Are you American?
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Post by RAF on Jan 24, 2015 22:40:16 GMT
Don't talk shit! Sterling is a serial bottler in tackles and it's quite clear you have never watched him closely. He's a fucking diving coward with pace. H Really? All I see is a hard-working player who isn't afraid to get on the ball and take on all-comers. Care to point out this "bottling" of his? Diving wouldn't make him a coward. Maradonna could take a savage kicking in games, but would dive when it suits him. Drogba can be an absolute battering ram and dive when it suits him. Just have a look at his last disgraceful performance for England, it's there for all to see. Terrible tackler and a fucking lightweight cry baby. H
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 24, 2015 22:41:47 GMT
Really? All I see is a hard-working player who isn't afraid to get on the ball and take on all-comers. Care to point out this "bottling" of his? Diving wouldn't make him a coward. Maradonna could take a savage kicking in games, but would dive when it suits him. Drogba can be an absolute battering ram and dive when it suits him. Just have a look at his last disgraceful performance for England, it's there for all to see. Terrible tackler and a fucking lightweight cry baby. H Did he play the last game or was he too tired?
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Post by sheriff on Jan 24, 2015 22:45:04 GMT
What? For pointing out Sterling performs better on the D, transitions quicker and more efficiently to the opposition end zone and has greater variation on the offense? Are you American? I'm Afghan. So?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 24, 2015 22:48:43 GMT
Makes sense because you talk dog-shit. (And I bet you're balding but wear a toupée i.e. a rug)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 22:49:15 GMT
"Executes more dribbles" "Wins his share of duels" Who the fuck are you and where did you learn to talk about our beautiful game like that? What? For pointing out Sterling performs better on the D, transitions quicker and more efficiently to the opposition end zone and has greater variation on the offense? Right Omar,that reply has told me all I need to know so I'm off.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2015 22:49:51 GMT
"Executes more dribbles" "Wins his share of duels" Who the fuck are you and where did you learn to talk about our beautiful game like that? What? For pointing out Sterling performs better on the D, transitions quicker and more efficiently to the opposition end zone and has greater variation on the offense?
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Post by Lesalanos on Jan 24, 2015 22:51:51 GMT
I like Sherriff, nothing better than an oppo fan to have a reasoned discussion with.
Just a few questions.
Why do so many of Liverpool signings underperform? Of the players you call out as similar to Bojan, how many games have/had they played up until 24? I'd say with over 100 starts in a team that won 2 Champions leagues, the league etc is pretty good going. What has Sterling /Sturridge/ Lllana/ pretty much everyone else actually achieved, or won compared to a Bojan? How good could Bojan have been if was given a rest in Jamaica mid season? How does Brendan's record compared to Hughes? How many of the Liverpool defence would Stoke want to swap for.
The side indictment is that Liverpool have managed to become a team that has won the same number of premier league than Stoke, and despite the mass outlay struggle to compete, and often flatter to deceive.
The fact that with this immense wealthy, pedigree, global brand and wonderful support, the sum of parts is an also ran.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 24, 2015 22:52:19 GMT
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Post by stokebloke on Jan 24, 2015 22:53:42 GMT
Ahhhh piss off
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