T P wants to extend his contract.

[BeauTDSC]

Just reported on Radio Stoke that Tone wants to sit down with the board and talk about extending his contract .TP pointed out that it will help with the signing of players if they know he will be manager for a long time,and also help out with the re-negotiating of current players contracts.Hope they offer him what he wants,this club needs stability.

[youthster]

he can borrow my pen ;D ;D

[POS51]

Sounds good, lets just hope he does sign a new contract!

No fannying around from the board!

[Pugsley]

BeauTDSC said:

TP pointed out that it will help with the signing of players if they know he will be manager for a long time,and also help out with the re-negotiating of current players contracts.Hope they offer him what he wants,this club needs stability.

And also offer himself much more security in case it goes tits up. An extended contract means we would not be able to sack him that easily as we would not be able to afford it.

Shorter contracts are much more sensible for both players and managers. I don't see players not signing for Chelsea even though Ranieri's position is vunerable.

Pulis has done well after a poor start but I think it's too early for new contract talks.

Funny isn't it - as soon as players and managers start doing well, suddenly they want to talk about new contracts.

[POS51]

Hmm, interesting view point Pugs, however:
Put yourself in TP's place.

He seems to have a plan in his mind about what he wants to do at Stoke.
He keeps telling us he's laying the foundations for the future.

So if i were him id want a longer contract, after all would you want someone else to come in using all the ground work you've put in?

He just wants some extra job-security, and who can blame him?

The reason players and managers often want to talk about new contracts when they're doing well, i think you'll find, is that they are in a better position to negotiate, unlike someone who is having a crap time of things.

[Pugsley]

POS51 said:

The reason players and managers often want to talk about new contracts when they're doing well, i think you'll find, is that they are in a better position to negotiate, unlike someone who is having a crap time of things.

No shit sherlock.

[POS51]

Cheeky!

No need for that!

[Robo10]

Its also funny how many on here/OB were calling for his head less than 3 months ago!

'Inept' ,'Crap','Clueless' etc etc if I recall.

[romfordstokie]

This is nothing story and quite why Pugsley is so peeved by it I have no idea. He’s doing well so he’s trying to capitalize on it. Very advisable as Stoke manager because promotion is often not enough to keep you in a job!

[eddy]

triffic news ;D

[Lakeland Potter]

Personally I hope that at the end of the season the directors do sit down and offer TP an extended and improved deal. It would have to wait until then as we have no idea what Division we will be playing in. ;D

Looking at the managers in my time following Stoke, I'd rate Waddo as the best by a long way. Macari would be a clear second (although TP could dethrone him in time) and Mills and Durban had their supporters - although I was not convinced.

Apart from those four, TP has no competition from the rest of our managers in the past 50 years. If the board are not prepared to pay the going rate to hang on to him then this club has no ambition.

[339187]

;D spot on Pugsley; the voice of realism.

[guti14]

Robo10 said:

Its also funny how many on here/OB were calling for his head less than 3 months ago!

'Inept' ,'Crap','Clueless' etc etc if I recall.

I am afraid to say that i was one of these people who was calling for his head. I now know that i should have kept my gob shut but hinesight is very good like that. Iam now however fully prepared to eat my words and i think signing him to a long term deal would be good as like you say it would offer security for him and the club.

[tel2u]

Even the most sternest critic of TP would I guess concede that under his management we've seen a revolution taking place which to date has undoubtably been for the benefit of the team.

He's never been without his critics, but he's never succumbed to them either, we have been in the doldrums for so long that the first hint of a 'ray of light' then we're off into heaven! and invariably fallen flat on our face, but I don't think we've ever been fortunate enough to appoint a manager as astute as TP is since Waddo!

To me, the best thing about TP is that he has won his critics over gradually and not at a gallop resulting in total disillusionment a la Little, he has been clever enough to win the support of a Board room that have shown themselves to be a very financially austere group of people.

Without doubt the Club do need stability, we've been crying out for it for years, with hindsight we've had a semblance of stability foisted upon us because the board cannot sell the Club at their expected price. And so Stoke Holdings have had to bite the bullet and take responsibility or lose face and millions of pounds in the process, their steadfastness and some would say aggrogance may well prove to be in everyones favour.

Just like everyone else I can not 'second guess' the next move of Stoke Holdings, but it would make complete sense that TP does have his contract extended to promote the feel good factor that I would imagine everyone connected with the Club is now feeling.

Not because TP has been a 'seven day wonder' but because, steadily under him, AND within the present financial restrictions he has assembled a young team that really do look like that they and 'we' have a future, to become a team that can restore ours and their pride that has been eroded over too many years.

[A-teen_six_T3]

have to agree with you robbo, they were and not just on the message board, around the ground, and in the streets and whatever, but ive always had faith in him. hes the manager that'll take us to the premiership i sure i am, and i think hell be the longest serving manger at the brit

[OldStokie]

What will happen if the board say no?

OS.

[apb1979]

I cant see that happening Oldstokie. They seem to be willing to do anything within reason. I cant see Pulis asking for ridiculous demands anyway.

[JoeinOz]

SCFC mustn't repeat the mistake thay was made with Durban. TP is doing well and with the security to make long term plans will be able to contiunue his good work.

He's doing well so wants a pay rise and thats fair enough.

[Lakeland Potter]

Oldstokie said:

What will happen if the board say no?

OS.

I suppose, Mick, that would inevitably send a signal out that Stoke did not appreciate what they had and another, more ambitious club, would offer TP the contract he seeks.

A new contract would not guarantee that he would not be poached but it would, at the very least, ensure decent compensation if he did leave.

[romfordstokie]

You get the feeling reading threads like this that there are certain so called loyal supporters keen to see Pulis fail just so they can be proved right from their initial ridiculous stand against him. Pathetic.

[Lakeland Potter]

I don't get that feeling at all, Romford. At a guess about 75% or more of Stokies on the thread are in favour of TP getting a new contract.

[Not_Nick_H]

Pugsley said:

Shorter contracts are much more sensible for both players and managers. I don't see players not signing for Chelsea even though Ranieri's position is vunerable.

Pugs - I think you'll find that's something to do with the [glow=green,2,300]££HUGE AMOUNT$ OF WONGA££[/glow] being offered to them.

[Chorley]

I'm not particularly saying he shouldn't get one, but I just think it's a little too early to start talking of a new contract. Maybe at the end of the season at the earliest, eh? In one respect, it seems as though he's riding the crest of a wave and is using a spell of a dozen or so games as his bargaining tool - which - in my opinion wouldn't warrant an improved contract. By all means, if things continue to go swimmingly 'til the end of the season, offer him a 1-year rolling contract. He'd get the security of a year's paid-up contract if he were to fall on his arse, while we aren't stretching out too far on a limb financially. Where we finish would determine how much of an 'improved' contract he gets.

Seems fair to me.

Not_Nick_H...

...so you're saying Mutu, Crespo, Geremi et al DIDN'T support Chelsea through thick an thin when they were shit in the 80's? That's quite a theory you've got there, matey!

;D

[Lakeland Potter]

I think we may be reading too much into this. TP's original contract was for two and a half years, I think. That means that in the summer it will have a year to run. It would be normal to offer a new contract at that point to any manager whose performance you were happy with.

I can't imagine the board being unhappy with his performance so far, so I would expect him to be offered an extended contract on higher wages in the summer. The question will be how much and for how many years. Time will tell, but I am not at all surprised that TP has fired the opening salvo now - it gives the board time to reflect on his worth to the club.

If the board decided his demands were too high they would have to have a pretty good idea of who they could offer the post to who would do as good a job for less money. I can't think of anyone off hand and I doubt if the board can.

The good news is that TP wants to stay - this makes me happy and I suspect I am not alone. ;D

[Not_Nick_H]

I didn't know they were Chelsea supporters - the point is they probably weren't thinking "Ooh - do I sign for Chelsea or not - Mr Ranieri might get the push". How many potential Stoke signings will be guided by a) boyhood dreams of playing for them or b) the aforementiond Wonga? Probably none. So if the manager is a selling point, you want to know he'll be there in at least 2 season's time.

[Chorley]

Not_Nick_H...

I'm not 100% sure they weren't Chelsea fans, but I dare say if you were to interview 'em, they probably wouldn't say that their boyhood idol was Tony Cascarino... (I even have my suspicions that they'd never even heard of Chelsea when they were kids!)

[tel2u]

As far as I can see, is that TP has said that he would like to open negotiations with the board about a new contract, in the past the board have been criticised by supporters for delaying new contract terms for players, Commons being one of them.

Now some of you you are saying that they should do the same with TP, a person who, imho, has contributed far more than Commons!

A case of double standards!

[lurcherthelurker]

Tel, see thats where your wrong. the board wont do anything about his contract so that means he can leave next year and Stoke dont have to pay anything, that leaves the way clear to get an unrated manager with no track record as such to come in on shit wages and carry on where Triffic left off

Did you not know thats how clubs get stability and progress?

[tel2u]

Rex

What are you inferring about the most astute set of Board Members in English Football!

[lurcherthelurker]

I'm inferring that in the past they have been a 'plethora of wank' (copyright MCF) in their dealings with managers.

Although I glad that they fucked up with Burley cos I couldnt ever see him doing what triffic has done.