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Post by MarkWolstanton on Dec 29, 2014 18:15:40 GMT
I'd just like to say that some of those moderators themselves set a fine example in attempting to eliminate the need to talk about Tony Pulis every friggin day too. I mean it's not as if they themselves have a cheap shot is it thus lighting the paper that little bit more?. The saying 'practice what one preaches' springs to mind. None of us ever start a thread on the subject. Fact is some people still think the bloke produced a miracle and don't want it putting in a reasonable perspective. It doesn't matter a damn if I am a moderator unless I happen to be contradicting certain individuals opinions. Won't stop me pointing to the list of managers you would cringe at who have delivered Premier League promotion without the resources Pulis required or the fact that the current management team are producing better football and better results without running up astronomical debts. I know the forever grateful brigade don't want to be told this and pretend it is the act of an heretic to mention such things but there you have it. The club is a better place and safer with Mark Hughes in charge.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Dec 29, 2014 18:17:23 GMT
I really can't see it working out if Pulis goes there.
It would be by far and away the biggest club he's worked for and expectation would be greater than anything he's ever faced.
And their fans are the most deluded gaggle of cunts on the planet. It's a poison chalice.
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 18:18:28 GMT
I'd just like to say that some of those moderators themselves set a fine example in attempting to eliminate the need to talk about Tony Pulis every friggin day too. I mean it's not as if they themselves have a cheap shot is it thus lighting the paper that little bit more?. The saying 'practice what one preaches' springs to mind. None of us ever start a thread on the subject. Fact is some people still think the bloke produced a miracle and don't want it putting in a reasonable perspective. It doesn't matter a damn if I am a moderator unless I happen to be contradicting certain individuals opinions. Won't stop me pointing to the list of managers you would cringe at who have delivered Premier League promotion without the resources Pulis required or the fact that the current management team are producing better football and better results without running up astronomical debts. I know the forever grateful brigade don't want to be told this and pretend it is the act of an heretic to mention such things but there you have it. The club is a better place and safer with Mark Hughes in charge. Quite why I mentioned mods starting threads I'll never know.
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Post by werrington on Dec 29, 2014 18:21:36 GMT
I only like to talk about him when it's relevant So today I'm bored shitless as there's no football on offer so it's relevant as that's what the match day experience was like under his tenure Carry on I guess it was just my company in Thun you enjoyed then.... The relevance is what ?
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 18:25:07 GMT
I guess it was just my company in Thun you enjoyed then.... The relevance is what ? You seemed to be enjoying that matchday experience. Carry on.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 29, 2014 18:28:51 GMT
I really can't see it working out if Pulis goes there. It would be by far and away the biggest club he's worked for and expectation would be greater than anything he's ever faced. And their fans are the most deluded gaggle of cunts on the planet. It's a poison chalice. How would he cope with all them foreign kiddies , he would however have plenty of cash to invest/waste if fat Mike trusts him with his credit card, could be very interesting another bunch of fans who berated our style of play when Pulis was in charge , they hated fat Sam let's see how they feel about Pulis ball.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Dec 29, 2014 18:35:02 GMT
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 29, 2014 18:35:23 GMT
I'm gobsmacked this thread is still going,they're normally anchored by now
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Dec 29, 2014 18:36:39 GMT
Slow day
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 29, 2014 18:41:49 GMT
I'm gobsmacked this thread is still going,they're normally anchored by now We are but the playthings of the Gods.....sorry, I meant Mods.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 29, 2014 18:43:20 GMT
Job Centre Plus
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 29, 2014 18:44:41 GMT
Would he take the Rangers job? Seems a good test at a massive club albeit in a very very very small pond?
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 18:55:05 GMT
At least someone replied, seems werrington conveniently forgot to. Edit - Wonder who'll be the next night watchman wezzer sends in?.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 29, 2014 19:41:19 GMT
I'd just like to say that some of those moderators themselves set a fine example in attempting to eliminate the need to talk about Tony Pulis every friggin day too. I mean it's not as if they themselves have a cheap shot is it thus lighting the paper that little bit more?. The saying 'practice what one preaches' springs to mind. None of us ever start a thread on the subject. Fact is some people still think the bloke produced a miracle and don't want it putting in a reasonable perspective. It doesn't matter a damn if I am a moderator unless I happen to be contradicting certain individuals opinions. Won't stop me pointing to the list of managers you would cringe at who have delivered Premier League promotion without the resources Pulis required or the fact that the current management team are producing better football and better results without running up astronomical debts. I know the forever grateful brigade don't want to be told this and pretend it is the act of an heretic to mention such things but there you have it. The club is a better place and safer with Mark Hughes in charge. Rather than accept it for what it was, a wonderful part of our long, proud yet unimpressive and success free history that saw the City be flooded with kids wearing red and white shirts, Stoke ones where once they were Man Utd and Liverpool ones, why do you find it so important to put it into 'reasonable perspective'? Your assertion that 'The club is a better place and safer with Mark Hughes in charge.' is hardly dripping in agenda free 'reasonable perspective' is it?
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2014 19:54:14 GMT
Ok - try this link which looks at the bookies "prime contenders" for relegation. As I said, the pundits and bookies saw us as relegation fodder when Hughes arrived. You got a different view? That link isn't a bookmaker giving odds, infact that isn't a bookmaker at all. Edit - So now you've changed it from 'relegation favourite' to 'relegation fodder'. Hope you can remember where those goal posts are in order to put them away safely before it goes dark. No - the link isn't to a bookmaker but if you follow the link and read the piece you'll see the prices from all the top bookmakers are quoted. Fodder / favourite - the point is the same. The goalposts remain where they were.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2014 20:04:18 GMT
The evidence I can get easily is from pundits. But they were also reflected in bookies odds at that time. But I've no idea how to prove that. The point is, when Hughes arrived, the general view was he was taking on a team destined for a relegation battle with many folk predicting actual relegation. That was the legacy left by Pulis. But help me out here; your reason for seeking clarification is what exactly? But pre-season predictions by pundits or bookies really don't mean much do they ? The pundits were nearly all predicting that Southampton would really struggle this season, and look how accurate that has turned out to be. Teams very often do better, or worse, than the pre-season predictions. None of us can ever know what would have happened if TP had stayed, so it's a totally irresolvable argument. Much better in my just view to celebrate what TP achieved, and to celebrate what his successor has and is achieving, or, as Nello would say, just decide to be happy and enjoy watching Stoke City in the Premier League, and remember that it might not last forever. Of course, pundits and bookies get it wrong. But... No. You are right. Enjoy yoursell, it's later then you think. The WBA game was my first this season. And it was a joy to Be there. Ok, there was stuff that didn't go perfectly, but I was hugely impressed with the team. Hughes is building something rather special just now. We should all "enjoy"!
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 29, 2014 21:10:02 GMT
The flight time from Bournemouth to Newcastle seems to be about an hour.
That seems a pretty civilised way of operating.He could be back in his Sandbanks mansion by early afternoon!
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 23:28:49 GMT
That link isn't a bookmaker giving odds, infact that isn't a bookmaker at all. Edit - So now you've changed it from 'relegation favourite' to 'relegation fodder'. Hope you can remember where those goal posts are in order to put them away safely before it goes dark. No - the link isn't to a bookmaker but if you follow the link and read the piece you'll see the prices from all the top bookmakers are quoted. Fodder / favourite - the point is the same. The goalposts remain where they were. So, we were NEVER the favourite then. In my book a favourite in this scenario would indicate that we were in dire trouble when in actual fact we weren't because whilst Hughes was left a great backbone to the team the bookies never actually saw us as favourite and quite rightly too. I doubt judge Judy could help you out much in finding those uprights that you conveniently misplaced.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 30, 2014 2:11:13 GMT
No - the link isn't to a bookmaker but if you follow the link and read the piece you'll see the prices from all the top bookmakers are quoted. Fodder / favourite - the point is the same. The goalposts remain where they were. So, we were NEVER the favourite then. In my book a favourite in this scenario would indicate that we were in dire trouble when in actual fact we weren't because whilst Hughes was left a great backbone to the team the bookies never actually saw us as favourite and quite rightly too. There is no doubt his sacking contained an element of risk. The fact remains Pulis did keep us in the top flight for five seasons and has never been relegated as a manager. However, that can be deemed null and void when we remember in his final months we were sleepwalked to the edge of the relegation dogfight. In his last eighteen months we regressed at an alarming rate, there is no reason to believe we wouldn’t be sucked into the mire 2013/14 had he been given another season.
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Post by tazi on Dec 30, 2014 2:15:51 GMT
So, we were NEVER the favourite then. In my book a favourite in this scenario would indicate that we were in dire trouble when in actual fact we weren't because whilst Hughes was left a great backbone to the team the bookies never actually saw us as favourite and quite rightly too. There is no doubt his sacking contained an element of risk. The fact remains Pulis did keep us in the top flight for five seasons and has never been relegated as a manager. However, that can be deemed null and void when we remember in his final months we were sleepwalked to the edge of the relegation dogfight. In his last eighteen months we regressed at an alarming rate, there is no reason to believe we wouldn’t be sucked into the mire 2013/14 had he been given another season. What has this got to do with the fact that we were never the relegation favourite with those bookmakers as some one tried to make out?.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 30, 2014 2:18:57 GMT
There is no doubt his sacking contained an element of risk. The fact remains Pulis did keep us in the top flight for five seasons and has never been relegated as a manager. However, that can be deemed null and void when we remember in his final months we were sleepwalked to the edge of the relegation dogfight. In his last eighteen months we regressed at an alarming rate, there is no reason to believe we wouldn’t be sucked into the mire 2013/14 had he been given another season. What has this got to do with the fact that we were never a relegation favourite with those bookmakers as some one tried to make out?. We wouldn't have been relegation favourites 2013/14 if he'd stayed. But that doesn't mean we couldn't have been deep in the shit.
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Post by tazi on Dec 30, 2014 2:22:53 GMT
What has this got to do with the fact that we were never a relegation favourite with those bookmakers as some one tried to make out?. We wouldn't have been relegation favourites 2013/14 if he'd stayed. But that doesn't mean we couldn't have been deep in the shit. I'm not saying we'd have been anything but, but when someone makes out that we were favourite for relegation then I thought I'd question which bookmaker it was with. It then transpires that it wasn't with a bookmaker but some fcuking tabloid bollocks.
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Post by upthefud on Dec 30, 2014 3:00:13 GMT
Took us back to the top flight and steadied the ship. Also got us to an FA cup final and will forever have a special place in the history of Stoke City Football Club in my opinion! And in virtually everyone else's opinion as well. That's why he has a prime place in the background image on our desktop website. But he's been gone over eighteen months and has been replaced by a manager who's doing an excellent job. Tony Pulis should never be airbrushed from our history, but does he have to be the topic of conversation every other frigging day? Especially the day we hit 54 points for the calendar year, our best total since promotion and in no small way down to the efforts of our current manager. So when you and the rest of the PHWs give him shit thats fine, but when people like Tazi give it you back you tell us to move on? Well that's just great
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Post by upthefud on Dec 30, 2014 3:03:00 GMT
Hughes took over in a better position after Pulis than Pulis took over in the Championship from Quitteril
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Post by upthefud on Dec 30, 2014 3:06:04 GMT
I'd just like to say that some of those moderators themselves set a fine example in attempting to eliminate the need to talk about Tony Pulis every friggin day too. I mean it's not as if they themselves have a cheap shot is it thus lighting the paper that little bit more?. The saying 'practice what one preaches' springs to mind. None of us ever start a thread on the subject. Fact is some people still think the bloke produced a miracle and don't want it putting in a reasonable perspective. It doesn't matter a damn if I am a moderator unless I happen to be contradicting certain individuals opinions. Won't stop me pointing to the list of managers you would cringe at who have delivered Premier League promotion without the resources Pulis required or the fact that the current management team are producing better football and better results without running up astronomical debts. I know the forever grateful brigade don't want to be told this and pretend it is the act of an heretic to mention such things but there you have it. The club is a better place and safer with Mark Hughes in charge. Can you prove your last sentence
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Post by tazi on Dec 30, 2014 3:58:58 GMT
And in virtually everyone else's opinion as well. That's why he has a prime place in the background image on our desktop website. But he's been gone over eighteen months and has been replaced by a manager who's doing an excellent job. Tony Pulis should never be airbrushed from our history, but does he have to be the topic of conversation every other frigging day? Especially the day we hit 54 points for the calendar year, our best total since promotion and in no small way down to the efforts of our current manager. So when you and the rest of the PHWs give him shit thats fine, but when people like Tazi give it you back you tell us to move on? Well that's just great In the words of woolywool 'they never start threads on him though' but WTF that has to do with anything I'll never know. Still, keep those faces up lads - you know, those two.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 30, 2014 4:00:59 GMT
Tone might just wait patiently for the Wales job. He's 55 years old and wealthy. Perhaps he can live without day to day aggravation.
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Post by stokeramblers on Dec 30, 2014 4:37:08 GMT
None of us ever start a thread on the subject. Fact is some people still think the bloke produced a miracle and don't want it putting in a reasonable perspective. It doesn't matter a damn if I am a moderator unless I happen to be contradicting certain individuals opinions. Won't stop me pointing to the list of managers you would cringe at who have delivered Premier League promotion without the resources Pulis required or the fact that the current management team are producing better football and better results without running up astronomical debts. I know the forever grateful brigade don't want to be told this and pretend it is the act of an heretic to mention such things but there you have it. The club is a better place and safer with Mark Hughes in charge. Can you prove your last sentence Nobody has been headbutted so far...
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Post by tazi on Dec 30, 2014 4:43:58 GMT
Can you prove your last sentence Nobody has been headbutted so far... You know the rules... Photo or it didn't happen.
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Post by RAF on Dec 30, 2014 6:41:24 GMT
Hughes took over in a better position after Pulis than Pulis took over in the Championship from Quitteril And Pulis took over in a better position from Boskamp than what Boskamp took over from Pulis! H
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