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Post by Zippy Moon Dust on Apr 30, 2008 23:10:55 GMT
Anyone got their copy of his (ghost written) autobiog
"Renegade - The Lives and Tales of MES" yet?
It's a very good read.
"Imperial Wax Solvent" is pretty good too.
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 30, 2008 23:26:34 GMT
I tried to order online but I can't get it to work for some reason. (me being a complete spacker being the main one). I'm now wondering whether it was a good idea to keep clicking the mouse in agitated frustration, as I'm half expecting 56 copies if "IWL" to land through the letterbox any day now.
If they don't then I'm going to have to do something I hate doing at the best of times and that's actually go shopping in Hanley.
I did venture out into Newcastle during lunch hour on Monday, just to see if anywhere had got it in. However, asking for The fall in Woolworths is about as sensible as going into Wilkinsons and asking if they stock kryptonite.
However, GlennA assures me it's a belter of an album so whatever method I deploy to get it, I'm sure it'll be worthwhile.
The extracts of the autobiog that I've read are fucking hilarious as well. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy of that.
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Post by GlennA on May 1, 2008 8:59:11 GMT
I whizzed through the autobiog in the time it takes to listen to Eat Y'self Fitter as I expect most fans will. Hugely entertaining stuff even if a lot of it is familiar from old interviews and so on. Against expectations, I didn't get too hung up on the 'ghost written' angle - it all reads very Smithian so I think Collings probably just transcribed the interviews and tidied the grammar up etc. The only thing I could have done with less of is the paranoid self-justification that Mark wallows in a bit too much at times, but then I guess that's what autobiogs are really for.
Imperial Wax Solvent on the other hand is an absolute joy from beginning to end. One of their landmark albums and the best since Infotainment Scan in my view - no faint praise from a sad fanboy wanker like me who loves 'em all. Snappy, snarly, punchily produced and in need of no editing down whatsoever unlike the last couple. The bastard's done it again, again.
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Post by GlennA on May 1, 2008 17:29:12 GMT
Literary Review - Private Eye No 1209
WHAT YOU DIDN'T MISS, Pt 94
Renegade: The Lives and Tales of Mark E. Smith
Mark E. Smith
(Viking, £18.99)
On his early life
Is this fookin' thing switched on...? Right, then... Cheers... No, ah'm not raising me voice, else I'll miss the Karaoke.... Cheers mate... Me childhood? It was all right, torturing me sisters and trading porn mags with them Irish lads. I feel sorry for kids these days. They're missing out on things. Not that I enjoyed myself, mind. At school they read us the fookin' Hobbit. Can you imagine that? This book about some tiny fucker who lives in a hole. I couldn't get me head round that... I couldn't afford to go to college: went for about three months, but I never had any money. Not that I liked it, mind, fuckers telling you what to do. Educate yourself, that's always been my philosophy. George V. Higgins – that's a good writer. You don't get fellows like that on any of the reading lists. Not, that I agree with reading lists, mind. You don't fookin' tell me what to read... [continues]
On his public image
I really do think there's people who think I'm an aggressive character, y'know, some kind of maniac... Look, just fuck off will y' pal, else I'll... Right, I fookin' told you, you fucker... Anyway, it's mostly journalists that do that, that fookin' Paul Morley... [rambles uncertainly for some minutes] Ask anyone that's been in The Fall – that bloke there, he played bass for us for ten minutes in 1980, or was it 1981 – and they'll tell y', Mark, he looks after his own. That time I clobbered Eric Lard [Fall lead guitarist, 13 September – 3 October 1982] with his Fender Stratocaster – fookin' poncey guitar, I mean why couldn't he have a Woolworth's one like everyone else? - it were all over the papers – trust that fookin' Paul Morley – but what no one ever remembers is that it was me that took him down to Casualty and phoned his dad to say “Your wanker of a son's had an accident”. Credit where credit's due. The fucker.
On the band's early days
Rat Street, Prestwich was quite a going place at the time. Always plenty of vomit on the doorsteps at Christmas, which is a sign that folk aren't feeling the pinch... Good solid working class people... Not that I liked it, mind. Then when I saw the Pistols at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in '76, I thought “My lot aren't as bad as that.” Not that they were any good, mind. There's people who'll say “that Mark, he's a fookin' dictator, he'll sack his band every fookin' week”, but the way I see it is, them musicians, y'have to watch them, always ready to get pissed... Cheers mate... and shout their mouths off about things they know nowt about. The fuckers.
On the sartorial niceties
As a band, we've always dressed sharp. You have to. That Oxfam shop on Salford High Street sells some all right stuff at a fair price. There's times I've taken the whole band in there – well, them that I hadn't fired that morning – and had them kitted out with flares and red-and-white tank tops. Nobody rates a scruff. Not that I've ever really bothered about clothes, mind...
[continues endlessly]
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Post by robdog on May 1, 2008 17:57:46 GMT
too freaky - just switched pc on and started to listen to IWS came to the Oatcake and this is the 1st post I see.
Nice to see other Stokies with a great taste is music
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Post by Zippy Moon Dust on May 1, 2008 17:59:21 GMT
Great book. One of those I don't want to finish too quickly. I've had it on order since Feb 2007.
Only on Chapter 8 but I thought the Japanese Prison Camp was funny. That's how to babysit! Reading that reminds me of John Lydon's autobiog. Both very intellegent but not really understood.
How's your version of Delil-ah coming on, if at all?
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Post by GlennA on May 1, 2008 17:59:35 GMT
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Post by Zippy Moon Dust on May 1, 2008 18:07:38 GMT
Listening to IWS and only 3 on your Karma. I'm upping that. GlennA's next.
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Post by Zippy Moon Dust on May 1, 2008 18:23:23 GMT
DOCUMENTARY: The Bard of Salford On: BBC Radio Four (704) Date: Thursday 8th May 2008 Time: 11:30 to 12:00 (30 minutes long) Paul Morley traces the life and works of Manchester punk poet John Cooper Clarke. With his acerbic, witty and punchy style, Clarke combined poetry with the harsh reality of growing up in a poverty-stricken industrial northern town. He made it accessible within the framework of the rebellious artistic movement of the 1970s. Contributors include Mark E Smith, Pete Shelly, Kate Nash, Phill Jupitus and Clarke himself. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marked By: 'Email: The Fall' marker ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from www.getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=18581Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.
Kate Nash!! WTF?I get the impression from Renegrade that MES isn't particularly fond of Paul Morley |
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